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GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY?
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Donovan Offline
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Maggots charts are stupid and show zero causal relationship between concealed carry permits and crime rates ,they just show a steady decline starting around 1995. Know whatever else happened in 1995 and 1996? The explosion and exponential improvement of internet broadband quality, including online access to hi-resolution porn. So basically I could make the exact same argument Maggot does by saying the increase of stay-at-home masturbatory activities is directly related to a drop in crime rates since the mid nineties..

And I'd probably be much closer to the truth.






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06-11-2018 12:46 PM
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Bang Bang!





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There is a LOT of room for fixing things without any infringement of 2A. There is a shit ton that can be done to protect schools too without infringing on anything. Makes no sense whatever to pass any more laws that will only be enforced on some folks and not everyone





06-15-2018 11:54 PM
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Nobody's suggested any new laws that would infringe on the 2A, Six. Read the amendment again -- what it actually says, not what you want it to say. And, read the Supreme Court's rulings on the limits of the amendment. It's not really complex.

How would passing a federal law requiring gun owners to secure and control access to their firearms be a 2A infringement? It wouldn't.

How would passing federal 'red flag' laws with speedy due process be a 2A infringement? It wouldn't.

How would limiting magazine/cartridge capacity to 10 rounds be a 2A infringement. Again, it wouldn't.

Lack of current gun law enforcement is a big problem. I agree with you and others here on that point. It's a proven fact.

However, better enforcement of current laws isn't enough to significantly minimize or stop some types of factual/real violence we're experience in the USA today.





06-17-2018 04:05 AM
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I was thinking of getting a biometric safe for my bedroom they go for around 200.00 and only need the right fingertip to open. I could keep my pistol safe and it would be quickly accessible when needed.

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This one cost more but there are others that are cheaper.

I like this one

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I know we discussed it somewhere way upthread when Cutz was still commenting here (I really liked his posts), but fingerprint identification technology to unlock guns themselves is still really intriguing and attractive to me. Unfortunately, market execution of that technological concept doesn't seem to have gained much steam.

Having the trigger locked to anyone but the background-checked legal owner of the gun would resolve a lot of problems (kids using their parents' guns to shoot themselves and others, criminals stealing guns and using them to commit crimes...).

In the meantime, quick access to gun storage safes, via fingerprint ID, seems like a good way to go for responsible owners who want to be able to access secured guns as quickly as possible.





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Twenty two people were shot last night at an all night art event and its barely making a headline.






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(06-17-2018 08:37 PM)Duchess Wrote:  Twenty two people were shot last night at an all night art event and its barely making a headline.

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Unfortunately it's become so "commonplace", the media are blase!






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(06-17-2018 08:37 PM)Duchess Wrote:  Twenty two people were shot last night at an all night art event and its barely making a headline.

Gov Murphy of Jersey commuted the sentence of the shooter who should have been in jail, not on the streets. It turns out it was a gang fight that was the cause of this shooting. This falls squarely on the Governors shoulders by letting this guy out early.

And in 2010, while still in prison, Wells was sentenced to six additional years after pleading guilty to a second-degree racketeering charge. He reportedly helped a gang leader run the group from inside prison.

So despite two lengthy sentences that should have left Wells serving time behind bars into the 2020s, he was back on the streets and able to commit Sunday's crime.

Murphy has decried the sentencing and incarceration of people throughout his campaign and time in office as part of his criminal justice reform agenda, which includes a review of sentencing laws in the state.


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Wasn't trying to get into the politics of the shooter being free, I was simply commenting on the fact that a mass shooting barely warranted a headline.






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Apparently the demographic does not meet the narrative.





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(Yesterday 07:09 PM)Duchess Wrote:  

Wasn't trying to get into the politics of the shooter being free, I was simply commenting on the fact that a mass shooting barely warranted a headline.

Cause and effect.

If there is one thing I've learned from HOTD it's to dbl check sources and to wait for the entire story to come out, not just the first soundbite from ANY source. In that I am gratefully thankful.






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I have no idea what that even means.






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(Today 04:45 AM)Duchess Wrote:  

I have no idea what that even means.

My cause and effect comment means that with every decision made it effects something good or bad that is why things sometimes have bad endings not intended. Or in some cases were intended.






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