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(03-16-2019, 11:31 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:
(03-16-2019, 08:35 PM)Maggot Wrote: The narrative of taking away rights from law abiding citizens is wearing thin. If a criminal wants a gun they can get one. Better security is needed in today's world. Most European and Arab schools have security the U.S. needs to adopt better policy's that protect kids at the moment. Not 20 min later and wait for the police to set up a "perimeter"

For me, it gets old hearing people pushing the false narrative that they have "rights" which don't actually exist in discussions about public safety and life and death.

No one in the U.S. has a "right" to buy guns without undergoing a background check.  Gun ownership was specified as being "well regulated" in the Second Amendment to the Constitution.

And, no one has a "right" to own high capacity magazines or cartridges (or bump stocks, or rocket launchers, or automatic weapons).  Bearing high capacity magazines is an option and preference available to gun owners in some states.  It's not a right that's guaranteed under the U.S. Constitution.

U.S. citizens have a right to bear arms for self-defense, that's it.  That's the Supreme Court ruling in regards to the Second Amendment.  

Privileges and options are not "rights".

U.S. citizens are, on the other hand, expressly guaranteed the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness under the Declaration of Independence.  

That may mean limiting options and preferences for some gun owners.  

It may also mean that students and parents who consider armed guards objectionable will have to live with it, and people who object to searches at public venues will have to put up with it as well.

HOTD, your thoughts are heart felt, everyone understands that. The premise has been pushed by progressives for nearly a century, but it is not factual. The founders trusted the American people, the elites do not.

Read the founders words for yourself:


The bottom line to me is quite simple, evil exists, and it always will. Some people are going to do horrific things; the only question is how to react when it happens. I say be prepared; get trained to defend yourself. Learn to shoot, and practice regularly. Trust that people will always come to the aid of strangers being affected by evil. We will never stop the evil, but we must punish the perpetrators. Another simple fact, killing the bastards will put a permanent end to their evil.

For forty years my brother went all over the world fighting evil, and he did it with a gun. 

History is rife with examples of government crushing the citizens; we are the only people on the planet that governments fear. That is how the founders designed it.
 Why would anyone trust someone who doesn't have good judgement? 
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Problem with people being allowed to define things like who has or has not got good judgment is that it is subjective and the people you would like making decisions about such things are rarely the people you'd like to.
(10-09-2018, 02:13 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: you believe men have the right and entitlement to molest and sexually assault minors and women.  

If HoTD doesn't agree with you politically you better humour her snowflake mentality or she will smear you for no good reason, like every other indoctrinated SJW. Liar and Slimeball. 

Three people were killed and 5 injured after a gunman opened fire on a tram in the Dutch city of Utrecht.

Police said they are investigating a possible terrorist motive for the incident, which took place at around 10:45 a.m.

Dutch anti-terror coordinator Pieter-Jaap Aalbersberg told a press conference a “complex operation” was under way to find the shooter. Aalbersberg raised the alert level in Utrecht province to its maximum level after the incident.

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Utrecht police later issued a CCTV picture of the suspect ^, whom they named as Turkish-born Gökmen Tanis, aged 37, and warned people not to approach him.

Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte told public broadcaster NOS that it was "very disturbing news."

Rutte later held a press conference in which he said "an act of terror is an attack on our open and tolerant society. If it is an act of terror, there is only one answer: our rule of law and democracy is stronger than violence." 

If this is ultimately confirmed to be a terrorist attack, I'll cross-reference it in the "TERRORIST ATTACKS" thread.

Hopefully, Dutch authorities will be able to apprehend this murderer and any accomplices before he hurts/kills anyone else.

Oh God. Not another one!
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(3 hours ago)Duchess Wrote: Oh God. Not another one!

Fortunately, Dutch police just apprehended the suspected mass shooter.

He reportedly has a history of violent run-ins with the law which includes attempted manslaughter in 2013 — when he was accused of firing a gun at an apartment building in the same area as Monday's attack. 

And earlier this month, suspect Tanis appeared in court over a rape allegation from 2017, the agency reports.

Details are still emerging about the mass shooting.  Just before the attack, police say, a car was stolen from a street a few blocks south of the intersection where the shooting took place. That car, a red Renault Clio, was later recovered several miles northeast of where it was taken.  It's not clear if the two crimes are related yet.