ATHLETIC ASSHOLES

[HairOfTheDog]

Human Growth Hormone (HGH) Allegations against Peyton Manning

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/144411...s-use-peds

It seems to me that the assholes behind the current headlines are Al Jazeera America network, undercover reporter (and British hurdler) Liam Collins, and shady former Guyer Institute intern Charlie Sly.

Manning doesn't deny that he underwent a lot of holistic treatment or that his wife received HGH while he was recovering from neck injuries a few years back. But, he adamantly denies that she ever gave him any or that he ever used any illegal PEDs as Sly reportedly remarked to Collins in secretly-taped audio.

Sly recanted what he told Collins and now says he was just dropping big names like Manning to test Collins' knowledge.

Still, Al Jazeera is airing the documentary today. Unless they have something more than Collins' claims based on Sly's remarks, this is really piss poor journalism.

[HairOfTheDog]

This is the PED/HGH documentary from Al Jazeera.

I learned some more about the drugs from watching it and listening to the experts/doctors interviewed.


I'm not sure any of the athletes named would actually have a defamation case against Al Jazeera. The narrator is careful to say, "Mr or Mrs X claims" rather than presenting the allegations against specific MLB players, Green Bay Packers' players, and Peyton Manning as facts confirmed to be true by Al Jazeera.

The recordings of Charlie Sly talking about NFL use starts at 34.5 in the video. Sly's claims about Peyton Manning start at 40.0.

It wouldn't surprise me to find out that any athlete, regardless of sport or personal character, was doping and working around the testing protocols at this point. But, there's no evidence linking Manning to HGH use in the film, aside from the (now recanted) statements of Charlie Sly.

It's kinda interesting reading the comments attached to news/sports articles. "Innocent til proven guilty", "if Tom Brady was accused of it, he'd be executed by effin' Goodell", "if Tom Brady was accused of it, everyone would bury their heads in the sand", "Al Jazeera, pffft", "so what, it should be legal anyway", "Roger Clemmens anyone?"....and the like.

[Blindgreed1]

Rugby is a hardass game. They may not get concussed but injury to other body parts is rampant.

Heh. Buddy of mine plays rugby. Watches football. Avid Cards fan. Big dude. Said there's no way he'd even consider going head to head with the Cards defense in a rugby match.

[Blindgreed1]

Human Growth Hormone (HGH) Allegations against Peyton Manning

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/144411...s-use-peds

It seems to me that the assholes behind the current headlines are Al Jazeera America network, undercover reporter (and British hurdler) Liam Collins, and shady former Guyer Institute intern Charlie Sly.

Manning doesn't deny that he underwent a lot of holistic treatment or that his wife received HGH while he was recovering from neck injuries a few years back. But, he adamantly denies that she ever gave him any or that he ever used any illegal PEDs as Sly reportedly remarked to Collins in secretly-taped audio.

Sly recanted what he told Collins and now says he was just dropping big names like Manning to test Collins' knowledge.

Still, Al Jazeera is airing the documentary today. Unless they have something more than Collins' claims based on Sly's remarks, this is really piss poor journalism.

It's not just Peyton that's affected here. Those assholes named many in this fabricated report and now every sports journalist/investigative reporter in the world will be digging deep on every single player named to try and make some sort of connection to HGH use so that they can attach Peyton's name to it.

[Maggot]

I'm beginning to think that the Bruce Jenner transformation was a stunt to make money. Just a feeling.

[HairOfTheDog]

It's not just Peyton that's affected here. Those assholes named many in this fabricated report and now every sports journalist/investigative reporter in the world will be digging deep on every single player named to try and make some sort of connection to HGH use so that they can attach Peyton's name to it.

Of course the MLB players and the Packers' players who were named are affected as well.


^ Green Bay Packers -- Clay Matthews, Mike Neal, Julius Peppers

But, I don't personally think that every single sports journalist or investigative reporter will be digging deep into those players' medical records or potential drug usage for a gotchya piece on them and/or Manning. Unlike Al Jazeera, sports journalists make their living within the industry and some rely on connections and relationships.

Some sports journalists will likely investigate though; I don't doubt that. But, if the statements made by Sly and others were completely fabricated and no evidence is uncovered by the sports journalists, it could work in favor of the athletes named. I don't think Al Jazeera is done with this story yet.

Anyway, in the documentary, when Sly is gabbing away with the undercover reporter in the car, he calls Mike Neal his friend. Sly says he'd visit Neal to supply him and then Neal started bringing his teammate buddies to get the stuff too. Matthews and Peppers deny even knowing Sly, but I don't think Neal has. I think Neal has just said the allegations are crap.


As for baseball, ^ Philadephia Phillies’ longtime slugger Ryan Howard and Washington Nationals’ franchise player Ryan Zimmerman are also named in the report. Both Howard and Zimmerman denied any involvement with HGH.

The NFL and MLB organizations each released statements today that they are investigating the allegations.

[Duchess]

I don't trust the sports media at all, not even a little bit. They lie and fabricate all the time and hide behind their anonymous sources, which I think they fabricate as well. Many often present their stories as fact when the reality is it is nothing more than gossip and supposition. I have a very poor opinion of most of them.

[Midwest Spy]

Wow.

Clay Matthews has been cheating all these years.

Yet another reason to hate them.

[BigMark]

Normally hat size is a indicator for HGH use, it always gets bigger for users. Would I take it, yes.

[Cutz]

Wow.

Clay Matthews has been cheating all these years.

Yet another reason to hate them.

Dude... it's a completely bogus report. Don't put credibility to it just because it implicates your rival.

[HairOfTheDog]

Is Richard Sherman just being a disrespectful asshole, or does he make a good point?

I don't know the answer and I like Sherman even if he is being an asshole, but I'm curious what people who follow NFL closely think about his comments today.



In regards to Roger Goodell's proposal that players be ejected if they commit two personal fouls in a game, Sherman (now a member of the Players Association Executive Committee) told ESPN: "'I think it's foolish, but it sounds like something somebody who's never played the game would say, something that they would suggest, because he doesn't understand. He's just a face. He's just a suit. He's never stepped foot on the field and understood how you can get a personal foul."

(The fouls that would count toward an ejection would be kicking; throwing a punch, a forearm; using threatening, abusive or insulting language; and using taunting or baiting acts.)

Sherman was also asked why the rules governing what a catch is have caused so much controversy. Sherman told ESPN:"Because you've got a bunch of suits doing it. Like I said before, you don't have a bunch of guys ... let Jerry Rice and Michael Irvin talk about it for about 20, 30 minutes. Maybe Cris Carter. Randy Moss, let those guys have a roundtable discussion about what a catch should be and come up with a rule. I guarantee you it'd be more effective than the rule they have now because those are the pass-catchers. 'Those are some of the best pass-catchers we've had. I think it'd be more straightforward and to the point."

The league's competition committee will present 19 rule change proposals at the NFL owner's meeting this week in Boca Raton, Florida.

[Duchess]

Is Richard Sherman just being a disrespectful asshole, or does he make a good point?

Richard Sherman is a very smart man, he was salutatorian of his senior class and is Stanford educated. He's not your average shit talker. He does make a good point and I would support him before I would Roger Goodell. I understand wanting to eject those who try to engage in a good ol' fistfight but I think the other stuff is bullshit, the stuff regarding baiting & taunting, how the hell else are you supposed to get into someone's head.

[Blindgreed1]

Is Richard Sherman just being a disrespectful asshole, or does he make a good point?

I don't know the answer and I like Sherman even if he is being an asshole, but I'm curious what people who follow NFL closely think about his comments today.



In regards to Roger Goodell's proposal that players be ejected if they commit two personal fouls in a game, Sherman (now a member of the Players Association Executive Committee) told ESPN: "'I think it's foolish, but it sounds like something somebody who's never played the game would say, something that they would suggest, because he doesn't understand. He's just a face. He's just a suit. He's never stepped foot on the field and understood how you can get a personal foul."

(The fouls that would count toward an ejection would be kicking; throwing a punch, a forearm; using threatening, abusive or insulting language; and using taunting or baiting acts.)

Sherman was also asked why the rules governing what a catch is have caused so much controversy. Sherman told ESPN:"Because you've got a bunch of suits doing it. Like I said before, you don't have a bunch of guys ... let Jerry Rice and Michael Irvin talk about it for about 20, 30 minutes. Maybe Cris Carter. Randy Moss, let those guys have a roundtable discussion about what a catch should be and come up with a rule. I guarantee you it'd be more effective than the rule they have now because those are the pass-catchers. 'Those are some of the best pass-catchers we've had. I think it'd be more straightforward and to the point."

The league's competition committee will present 19 rule change proposals at the NFL owner's meeting this week in Boca Raton, Florida.

I agree and disagree. I don't think "taunting" should be included, but after seeing how a certain Giant's player reacted last year I do believe they should be more proactive about ejecting players. In this case, it was very obvious that he was out there to seriously injure someone, when it's that obvious eject the player and hit him hard in the pocket book with fines.

[Duchess]

after seeing how a certain Giant's player reacted last year I do believe they should be more proactive about ejecting players.

By any chance are you referring to OBJ and the fight he had with Josh Norman?

[Blindgreed1]

after seeing how a certain Giant's player reacted last year I do believe they should be more proactive about ejecting players.

By any chance are you referring to OBJ and the fight he had with Josh Norman?

Yup. That shit was ridiculous.

[Blindgreed1]

Josh Gordon’s path back to the NFL is clearer than his roommate’s.

The Cleveland Browns receiver, who was suspended for the entire 2015 season, “raised a red flag” in a NFL drug test administered in March by showing traces of marijuana and a diluting substance in his system.

The level of marijuana was less than the minimum required to trigger a positive substance abuse test.

“In the state he is in [within the NFL drug program],” a source told the Associated Press, “anything above a certain amount, even if it is below the threshold, raises a red flag.”

However, ESPN reported the NFL feels Gordon needs 60-90 days of no red-flag tests before his potential reinstatement, but if he “stays clean,” he could return to the field in 2016.

During his limbo, Gordon reportedly has been living in Los Angeles with former Browns teammate Johnny Manziel, whose NFL future is in increasing peril as he continues to party away the spring in Hollywood.

Lol, you guys are HILARIOUS!!! Haha, I love it. Johnny’s not staying with me but he is my BROTHER! Like I’ve said a thousand times, I got his back no matter what! #LOVE #gigem @jmanziel2
A photo posted by Von Miller (@vonmiller) on Apr 11, 2016 at 1:48pm PDT
Manziel previously said he was rooming with Denver Broncos star Von Miller, a fellow former Texas A&M Aggie who, like Gordon, has previously run afoul of the NFL’s drug testing policy. Miller set the record straight in an Instagram post late Monday.

“Johnny’s not staying with me but he is my BROTHER!” the Super Bowl MVP said. “Like I’ve said a thousand times, I got his back no matter what!”

Gordon also could use some allies in the league. The new Browns regime, including head coach Hue Jackson, has been tight-lipped about the status of the mega-talented 24-year-old with a lengthy history of drugs-and-drinking violations.

Gordon failed marijuana tests in college at Baylor. As a pro, he had to sit out two games in 2013 for a failed drug test, which he blamed on taking prescription cough medicine (and he still led the league in receiving yards). He was suspended for 10 games of the 2014 season (knocked down from a full-year ban) after testing positive for marijuana. He pleaded guilty to DWI in July 2014, requiring him to submit to alcohol testing under the league’s program, and after he failed a subsequent test, was banned for the whole 2015 season.

[Midwest Spy]

Josh Gordon LIT US UP (pun intended) a few years back. Huge game.

Too bad he can't pass on grass.

[HairOfTheDog]

Who says baseball is a low-contact sport?



The Texas Rangers were playing the Toronto Blue Jays yesterday when Roughed Odor of the Rangers sucker punched Jose Bautista of the Blue Jays after Bautista slid hard into Roughed during a double play. Apparently, the two have had a festering feud going since Bautista fipped his bat in last year's AL Division Series and it boiled over into a wild brawl yesterday.

Players from both teams rushed the field as Odor landed a punch to Bautista's face, staggering the Toronto slugger and knocking off his batting helmet and sunglasses.

'I was pretty surprised,' Bautista said. 'I mean, obviously, that's the only reason that he got me and he got me pretty good, so I have to give him that. It takes a little bit bigger man to knock me down.'

Bautista and several from both teams were ejected as a result of the ensuing brawl.

After the field was finally cleared, Blue Jays reliever Jesse Chavez hit Prince Fielder with the next pitch when the game resumed. He was ejected automatically because of the warning issued after Matt Bush hit Bautista.

The Rangers beat the Blue Jays 7 to 6.

Story and pics: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsn...match.html

[Blindgreed1]

Who says baseball is a low-contact sport?



The Texas Rangers were playing the Toronto Blue Jays yesterday when Roughed Odor of the Rangers sucker punched Jose Bautista of the Blue Jays after Bautista slid hard into Roughed during a double play. Apparently, the two have had a festering feud going since Bautista fipped his bat in last year's AL Division Series and it boiled over into a wild brawl yesterday.

Players from both teams rushed the field as Odor landed a punch to Bautista's face, staggering the Toronto slugger and knocking off his batting helmet and sunglasses.

'I was pretty surprised,' Bautista said. 'I mean, obviously, that's the only reason that he got me and he got me pretty good, so I have to give him that. It takes a little bit bigger man to knock me down.'

Bautista and several from both teams were ejected as a result of the ensuing brawl.

After the field was finally cleared, Blue Jays reliever Jesse Chavez hit Prince Fielder with the next pitch when the game resumed. He was ejected automatically because of the warning issued after Matt Bush hit Bautista.

The Rangers beat the Blue Jays 7 to 6.

Story and pics: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsn...match.html

Bautista had it coming. A long time coming.

[Midwest Spy]

Reminds me of the time my Panamanian wife threw a haymaker at me back in '98.

Those Latinos are fiery.