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Kitchen Remodel
#21


If you're getting an island you might like a couple refrigerator drawers in it. I love mine.
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(10-17-2014, 01:45 PM)Maggot Wrote: It never fails, You look and shop and try to get the perfect thing going on and when its all done there is always something that you bite your lip over doing wrong. I might be wrong but most women go with the stain and the colors never looking at the grain pattern to see if its even the correct wood for the color. A maple cabinet stained cherry might go unnoticed to the woman's eye and most men actually.

What's the grain pattern have to do with the stain? I've never really thought much about it (and I certainly wouldn't notice by eyeball) but I just associate certain colors with certain woods and that seems more important to me on something as massive as cabinets. If I wanted deep, dark cabinets I would first check out cherry, golden--maple. Then again there are all the other factors like durability etc.
I can't fathom oak though. The whole damn house was Golden Oak at one time and the kitchen and bath still are. I'm sick to death of Golden Oak.
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#23
(10-17-2014, 01:52 PM)Duchess Wrote:

If you're getting an island you might like a couple refrigerator drawers in it. I love mine.

That part will be fun. Adding all the stuff I don't currently have (for example enough fridge/freezer space). I'd really like a real pantry too. I have a tall cupboard right now but nothing pulls out or anything and the top two shelves are particularly useless.

I want several pull out shelves too. I have two under my range now...I want more.

I'd love an island and that would involve completely reconfiguring the whole area which I can't picture yet. Thank God for Lacy.
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(10-17-2014, 01:51 PM)username Wrote:
(10-17-2014, 01:41 PM)sally Wrote: The cabinets are maple and the stain is toffee. The back splash is granite. I didn't want the cabinets too dark or light so that's why I went with the maple. But I've seen some kitchens in magazines that make me wish I would have gone with cherry wood instead.

Do you have a taller backsplash between your range and hood?

More pics, please. Nag, nag, nag.

The range and hood is actually in the middle of the island. That's why I had to switch out the original Corian for granite. The heat from the gas range cracked the whole counter in half.

If your range is going to be near the wall I think some type of Tuscan tile would be nice as a backsplash.

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Wow, wow, wow, WOW!!! Look at all that space! 70 That's purty too (right click, save).

Uh-oh...I just noticed your sink doesn't sit underneath a window. Smiley_emoticons_stumm

The only thing I'd need is some darker colors somewhere. If I had your kitchen (God, I wish I had your kitchen), I'd paint the walls a deep tan or some other darker color to make it look even warmer. I have some brown/tan on a few of my walls and it really makes colors/artwork etc. "pop" in those rooms.
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#26
I plan on painting the walls a brown color, adding hardware to the cabinets and adding the refrigerated drawers and another dishwasher like Duchess has.

Who the hell am I kidding, I'm never going to get around to doing any of that bullshit, I should have just done it in the first place. I still have to fix the leak in my roof that's been there for a year.
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#27
Oh and I would love to have a window over the sink with a view of the mountains or ocean. Unfortunately the only view I have out my windows are the neighbors house.
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(10-17-2014, 02:00 PM)username Wrote:
(10-17-2014, 01:45 PM)Maggot Wrote: It never fails, You look and shop and try to get the perfect thing going on and when its all done there is always something that you bite your lip over doing wrong. I might be wrong but most women go with the stain and the colors never looking at the grain pattern to see if its even the correct wood for the color. A maple cabinet stained cherry might go unnoticed to the woman's eye and most men actually.

What's the grain pattern have to do with the stain? I've never really thought much about it (and I certainly wouldn't notice by eyeball) but I just associate certain colors with certain woods and that seems more important to me on something as massive as cabinets. If I wanted deep, dark cabinets I would first check out cherry, golden--maple. Then again there are all the other factors like durability etc.
I can't fathom oak though. The whole damn house was Golden Oak at one time and the kitchen and bath still are. I'm sick to death of Golden Oak.

That's what I'm saying, why get the expensive wood if its the color that's important.
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#29
I met with my kitchen designer today!!! She thinks I should look at Alder for the cabinets and Ceasarstone for the counters. She says granite is out for homes now since it's commonly being installed in apartments and stuff. Heaven forbid my new kitchen have anything out. hah

She actually likes it because it tends to have a cleaner look and less "movement" than granite. It would suck if you installed granite and the next day, BAM!, it's up and left your house so I think I'll follow her advice and check out the Ceasarstone.
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By the time you get done I'm going to hate my lovely kitchen :(
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(10-23-2014, 05:38 PM)Duchess Wrote:

By the time you get done I'm going to hate my lovely kitchen :(

No way. Your kitchen rocks. My next house is going to have lots of whites...sort of grown up shabby chic. Besides, I'll never have the amount of space needed for two dishwashers. 21

The lady who is doing the design is cool. She and her husband have been married forever but she got sick of him so she got her own place for about 5 years. They stayed together but she had her own place. She said she decorated it just for her. *dreams* I could do that right now.

Then he got in a bad car accident so she moved back in with him. In sickness and in health...
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I hope you keep this thread updated with the process, it will be fun & interesting to watch it all be pulled together.

Do you have a small space where you can keep your coffee pot & microwave, little things of that nature? It might make life somewhat easier if you have access to small comforts like that. Going without a kitchen is a big deal but as long as you can sorta be comfortable it goes far in helping your mindset. Remodeling can be stressful.
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(10-24-2014, 11:36 AM)Duchess Wrote:

I hope you keep this thread updated with the process, it will be fun & interesting to watch it all be pulled together.

Do you have a small space where you can keep your coffee pot & microwave, little things of that nature? It might make life somewhat easier if you have access to small comforts like that. Going without a kitchen is a big deal but as long as you can sorta be comfortable it goes far in helping your mindset. Remodeling can be stressful.

I'll probably clear off our garage work bench and use that area for a temporary kitchen. We've already got an extra refrigerator out there--I'll put the microwave, coffeepot and toaster oven out there too.

I have to ask the designer...she mentioned yesterday that "they" (I'm assuming my contractor or whomever I buy the cabinetry from) prefer to tear out the kitchen before they order the new cabinets (which take around 6 weeks). I didn't ask why yesterday but that makes no sense to me. I've read you can save a lot of aggravation by having as much stuff on hand as possible when they do the tear out. I was planning on getting one of those pods or something to put it all in and then having the existing kitchen torn out.
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#34
I didn't tear mine out until 1 week before delivery was going to arrive. Wall sq foot is the same with or without the cabinets. You should ask.
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(10-24-2014, 02:12 PM)Maggot Wrote: I didn't tear mine out until 1 week before delivery was going to arrive. Wall sq foot is the same with or without the cabinets. You should ask.

Well, it looks like the walls are going to change but still, that's what measuring tapes are for, right? Behind my existing refrigerator is a bathroom that's really big for a "powder room" (her words). She wants to push in to that I think. She's going to email me her ideas; I'll post some when they arrive. Smiley_emoticons_smile
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#36
You have to store your gunpowder carefully. Safety first!
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#37
I haven't looked at much else but alder is pretty.

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Hmmmm.....

FYI, the 'softwood' & 'hardwood' tags are a bit misleading. Technically, the wood from any deciduous tree is called a 'hardwood' and the wood from any coniferous tree is called a 'softwood'. In practical terms, that means that some so-called soft woods are harder than some so-called hardwoods.
For instance, alder, a 'hardwood', at 590 on the Janka scale is softer than Douglas fir, a 'softwood' (710 Janka) as well as several species of pine. Pine ranges from the very soft eastern white pine (380) to the much harder longleaf pine (870), of the commonly available pine species. (Longleaf pine is often also called 'Southern Yellow Pine.')

Personally, I would steer away from alder for kitchen cabinets and go with a tougher wood.
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#38
Huh...Her first idea:

I think the easiest and most obvious change is to move the stove top to the counter where everyone leans, and add a bar there at the same height or at 42". In that scenario, the window where the kitchen table is has to be moved over to the right. We will re-locate the fridge to open in the center of the space instead at the end of the counter.

The bar that is in between the rooms can be turned into a bookcase on the family room side and and storage on the other. It will start on the other side of that beam (the one we think is structural).


Intriguing but the stove top and bar together? Wouldn't my friends get steamed?

What this thread needs are visuals. Nobody laugh at my ugly kitchen (and to make matters worse, it was a mess when I snapped these photos because my kitchen sink had recently exploded and all the stuff underneath was on the counters). 84

It's going to be beautiful when we're done. I'm going to get rid of all the stuff on my counter tops and I won't have one picture on my new refrigerator. I'm going to make Sally proud!!!

From dining room in to kitchen (and beyond to family room). I hate the fact that when you're getting in to the fridge, nobody can get behind you (easily).

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Kitchen. Gotta love the peach tile and window treatments. Blurg.

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Family room in to kitchen. There used to be a solid wall between the family room and kitchen. We had that ugly opening made and the monstrous, ugly white cabinets installed. THIS is why I'm not designing this by myself. I've hated those stupid cabinets (except for the storage they provide) since we got them. 50

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(10-24-2014, 06:52 PM)username Wrote: Intriguing but the stove top and bar together? Wouldn't my friends get steamed?


It sounded to me like she was doing away with the bar to turn the other side into a bookcase. Am I misunderstanding?

This is going to be so much fun!
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(10-24-2014, 07:01 PM)Duchess Wrote:
(10-24-2014, 06:52 PM)username Wrote: Intriguing but the stove top and bar together? Wouldn't my friends get steamed?


It sounded to me like she was doing away with the bar to turn the other side into a bookcase. Am I misunderstanding?

This is going to be so much fun!

Fun like catching crabs maybe. I might have a little fun in the process but really, I'd love to be on one of those extreme make over shows where you go out to dinner and come home to... a NEW KITCHEN!!!

No, she's suggesting that the counter that annoys me (because it ends right at my refrigerator currently) somehow get changed to hold both my stove and a bar (assuming I'M reading it right which is questionable). I think she's also saying the bar height might be different then the stove height--staggered.

Then somehow where I have those ugly white cabinets (between the kitchen and family room) that existing bar would be changed to storage on the kitchen side and a book case on the family room side (and I'm assuming it would be made much shorter to open it up more). That's the way I read it (and we talked about bits and pieces of this). The other odd part of that idea (that I can't visualize) is that behind the bar stools (assuming I get them) is just sort of 4-6 feet of space (I'm guessing) until it ends in my new storage/book case arrangement. I guess that's not so bad; I'm just having a hard time picturing it. She said she'd email me some drawings.


^The above probably makes no sense to anyone but me. hah
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