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HotD is correct. That is the tape I am talking about. The funny thing no one seems to reference or remember is that the anthem was NEVER a moment of reverence in the NFL before they seized on the patriotic fever after 9-11. Used to be, the anthem wasn't even televised and the players sat around the locker room before games. But the NFL started cranking up the military hype machine, and all of a sudden "support the troops" was synonymous with NFL pregame. That was when players started standing for the anthem, never before. And nobody gave two shits.
Thank god I am oblivious to the opinions of others while caught in the blinding splendor of my own cleverness.
(06-01-2018, 03:37 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:
(06-01-2018, 02:48 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: If there really is an audio tape that would clinch it for him.

I’m going to go out on a limb and say that the tape doesn’t exist.

There really is a leaked tape, which we covered upthread.

I think that's the one that Donovan is referencing: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/25/sport...rnick.html

The NYT summary of some of the tape's content shows the owners, coaches, and players who were in the room were concerned and strategizing about how to handle Trump's damaging rhetoric and interference.

A player brought up Kaepernick specifically during the meeting but the coaches and owners did not speak of him (again, only based on the audio content summary from the NYT).

The NYT summary released to the public does not show collusion on its own.

However, Kaepernick's attorney says the audio proves collusion and that he has more evidence as well.

I guess that was my contention:

Whatever tape was out there, would not be the so-called Smoking Gun (shout out to Robert Cray).

I’m not dismissing the idea that some other evidence may exist, I’m just of the opinion he won’t win his case.
Trump and Pence to Testify?

Kaepernick’s legal team is expected to seek federal subpoenas in the coming weeks to compel testimony from Trump, Vice President Mike Pence and other officials familiar with the president’s agenda on protesting NFL players, sources with knowledge of the quarterback’s collusion case against the NFL told Yahoo Sports.

Due to the nature of the rules in collective bargaining grievances, reeling in sworn testimony from the political sector will create at least one additional hurdle for Kaepernick’s camp. The quarterback’s legal team first must notify the system arbitrator of the need for targeted depositions beyond the boundaries of the agreement between the NFL and the player’s union.

That would entail presenting a detailed argument to the system arbitrator overseeing the grievance, spelling out the relevance and impact that testimony from Trump or others could have on the grievance. If the arbitrator rules the testimony would be justifiable, that would open the door for Kaepernick’s attorneys to seek the subpoenas in a district court under the Federal Arbitration Act.

The aim will be a dive into the administration’s political involvement with the NFL during Kaepernick’s free agency and the league’s handling of player protests, sources said. This after recent disclosures that multiple owners had direct talks with Trump about players kneeling during the national anthem. The content of those conversations between Trump and owners – as well as any forms of pressure directed at the league by the administration – are expected to shape the requests to force the testimony of Trump, Pence and other affiliated officials, sources said.

Full piece: https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-colin-k...14523.html
After originally praising the NFL's cave requiring players to stand or stay in the locker room in May, President Trump has been stirring the pot again by interfering in private business to keep his base riled up and outraged by what he sees as a 'winning' issue for him politically.

The topic has dogged the league ever since the 2016 season, in part because President Donald Trump grabbed the issue and has continued to criticize the players, even as the NFL tried to put out the long-playing public relations firestorm.

Recent rally rhetoric by the president includes his assertion that the NFL's new policy of allowing the players to remain in the locker room will not stand and is worse than protesting.

This week, The NFL players' union filed a non-injury grievance on behalf of all players challenging the NFL’s recently imposed anthem policy. The union’s claim is that this new policy, imposed by the NFL’s governing body without consultation with the NFLPA, is inconsistent with the collective bargaining agreement and infringes on player rights.

"In advance of our filing today, we proposed to the NFL to begin confidential discussions with the NFLPA Executive Committee to find a solution to this issue instead of immediately proceeding with litigation. The NFL has agreed to proceed with those discussions and we look forward to starting them soon." The statement says that the sides will try to arrive at a solution, via negotiations, before the grievance lands in court.

Ref: http://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nfl/news/...tnuzlkagli