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John McCain has died
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He served his country well. 

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(08-25-2018, 09:10 PM)Maggot Wrote: He served his country well. 

He sure did, for his whole adult life.  Whenever I hear the words "true patriot",  John McCain pops into my mind.  

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I didn't always agree with his proposals and decisions, but I respected him and didn't doubt his commitment to the people he served.  

He was cranky yet still classy in some of his interviews during his later years, which is a tricky combo to pull off.

Rest in peace.
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#3
This made me sad. I just knew when I heard that bone chilling music indicating breaking news last night that it was going to be about Senator McCain. He is the very definition of an American patriot. I mostly didn't agree with him but I always respected him and I never doubted his love for our country. He was a true American hero.

He will lie in state in Arizona & Washington before his funeral at the National Cathedral. His eulogists will include former Presidents Obama and George W, the current President has been asked to stay away.
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#4
John McCain left the following farewell letter to the American people.  It was was read and published yesterday.

My fellow Americans, whom I have gratefully served for 60 years, and especially my fellow Arizonians, thank you for the privilege of serving you and for the rewarding life that service in uniform and in public office has allowed me to lead. I've tried to serve our country honorably. I've made mistakes, but I hope my love for America will be weighed favorably against them. I've often observed that I am the luckiest person on Earth. I feel that way even now as I prepare for the end of my life. I've loved my life, all of it.

I've had experiences, adventures, friendships enough for ten satisfying lives and I am so thankful. Like most people, I have regrets but I would not trade a day of my life in good or bad times for the best day of anybody else's. I owe the satisfaction to the love of my family. One man has never had a more loving wife or children he was prouder of than I am of mine. And I owe it to America to be connected with America's causes, liberty, equal justice, respect for the dignity of all people brings happiness more sublime that life's fleeting pleasures. Our identities and sense of worth are not circumscribed but are enlarged by serving good causes bigger than ourselves.

Fellow Americans, that association has meant more to me than any other. I lived and died a proud American. We are citizens of the world's greatest republic. A nation of ideals, not blood and soil. We are blessed and a blessing to humanity when we uphold and advance those ideals at home and in the world. We have helped liberate more people from tyranny and poverty than ever before in history. We have acquired great wealth and power in the progress. We weaken our greatness when we confuse our patriotism with rivalries that have sown resentment and hatred and violence in all the corners of the globe. We weaken it when we hide behind walls rather than tear them down, when we doubt the power of our ideals rather than trust them to be the great force for change they have always been. We are 325 million opinionated, vociferous individuals. We argue and compete and sometimes even vilify each other in our raucous public debates.

But, we have always had so much more in common with each other than in disagreement. If only we remember that and give each other the benefit of the presumption that we all love our country, we'll get through these challenging times. We will come through them stronger than before. We always do. Ten years ago, I had the privilege to concede defeat in the election for president. I want to end my farewell to you with heartfelt faith in Americans that I felt so powerfully that evening. I feel it powerfully still. Do not despair of our present difficulties, we believe always in the promise and greatness of America because nothing is inevitable here. Americans never quit, we never surrender, we never hide from history, we make history. Farewell fellow Americans. God bless you and god bless America.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/2...ent-797487
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#5
I've been thinking about Senator McCain and the way he refused early release from the North Vietnamese. I don't know everything he's done in life but I think that alone tells you what kind of man he was.

I saw a clip of his family at his coffin at the Arizona capital. His sons were in their dress uniforms, they saluted their dad, Meghan was sobbing and Cindy leaned her cheek on the casket. It was all so sad.
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#6
Yeah, John McCain was something else (in a good way).    It's good to see his service and sacrifice being properly respected on the whole.

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I saw his long-time friend Lindsey Graham making a tearful speech about McCain yesterday.

I used to like Lindsey alright, but he's really seemed off his mark since McCain was diagnosed terminally ill.  

It almost comes across like Lindsey got his backbone and moral compass through association with McCain.  I hope that's not true; but he just seems so different.
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#7
I just watched a tiny bit of the service out in Arizona. Joe Biden spoke, it was very moving, friends with opposite politics in many ways. They respected each other and had a genuine friendship. Anyway, the service ends and their pastor asks that people remain seated until the family has left, the Marines begin to move his coffin and suddenly Frank Sinatra begins to boom from the speakers. He sang My Way and that's how Senator McCain's body left the church. He's on his way to the airport where he will be flown to DC where he will lie in state tomorrow.
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#8
Godspeed, John McCain.

May your last flight land safely.

Thank you for choosing "Arizona" by Dolan Ellis, Arizona's Balladeer, sung by the Brophy Prep Choir.


Some Nam vets I know thought Fleetwood Mac's "Songbird" was more appropriate . . . Arizona connection through Stevie Nicks.


It's sad to think you'll be spending more time in our Nation's capitol this week, than you did during the last 8 months.


It's difficult to fathom you didn't win the 2008 election . . . especially after hearing all of your extraordinary accomplishments and non-partisan attitude!


All I can remember from your opponent and his supporters was that you were:


Racist


For Big Oil


Against stem cell research

War monger . . . not just a Hawk . . . a war monger

Would ruin seniors social security and Medicare 


In bed with the felons causing Lincoln Savings and Thrift to go bust - destroying the lives of hundreds of Arizonans

Whore for lobbyists

Extreme GOP loyalist


and Kathy Griffin claiming "that must have been some blow job" you got from Sarah Palin . . . after choosing her for your running mate.
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#9
Political competition is some ugly shit most of the time, even when the politicians involved are generally good people. Unfortunately.

Fortunately, John McCain seemed more decent than most people and moved past false/indecent claims aimed at him most of the time. He'd lived through much worse for 5 years, he said.

The memorial speeches today were lovely.
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#10
Biden posthumously sucked his dick to curry political favor, it was sickening.
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#11
The only reason the left has embraced McCain is because he was against Trump. Before that they hated him. I thought he was OK.
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(08-31-2018, 12:07 AM)BigMark Wrote: Biden posthumously sucked his dick to curry political favor, it was sickening.

Senator McCain asked Joe Biden to speak. He asked President Obama as well as President Bush to speak. He planned his own funeral. The people who are speaking were all asked by John McCain to do so.
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(08-31-2018, 12:07 AM)BigMark Wrote: Biden posthumously sucked his dick to curry political favor, it was sickening.

They were close friends for decades, Biggie.  

Since your definition of 'dick sucking' oddly seems to be 'showing honor and respect', you could say that McCain and Biden had been sucking each other's dicks for years.  

They often praised and supported each other.
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(08-31-2018, 03:57 AM)Maggot Wrote: The only reason the left has embraced McCain is because he was against Trump. Before that they hated him. I thought he was OK.

Based on their comments, plenty of people on the left still hate some of McCain's positions and decisions (Iraq, Palin, etc), but always appreciated his service in Vietnam, his commitment to veterans, and his commitment to accessible health care. 

Some extremists on the left did hate him as a person as well, I don't doubt that. 

Most of the hateful comments I've seen about McCain are coming from extreme Trump supporters though.   They go so far as to call him a traitor for voting against the repeal of Obamacare and speaking his mind about Trump (who'd questioned McCain's 'war hero' status for years, even before Trump's presidential candidacy).  

Anyway, I thought McCain was okay too.  Better than most of the assholes occupying congressional seats.
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(08-31-2018, 03:57 AM)Maggot Wrote: The only reason the left has embraced McCain is because he was against Trump. Before that they hated him. I thought he was OK.

I can like & respect those I don't agree with. Take you & I for example, we will never see eye to eye on anything surrounding politics yet, not only do I respect you, I adore you. Can I be conservative yet liberal? Is that an oxymoron like me being a girly girl tomboy? Kiss me, I'm a Liberal.
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#16
* freedom kiss
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Some of you may have already seen this by now. I've always really enjoyed the friendship George Bush & Michelle Obama seem to have. It's endearing.



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(08-31-2018, 12:50 PM)Duchess Wrote:
(08-31-2018, 03:57 AM)Maggot Wrote: The only reason the left has embraced McCain is because he was against Trump. Before that they hated him. I thought he was OK.

I can like & respect those I don't agree with. Take you & I for example, we will never see eye to eye on anything surrounding politics yet, not only do I respect you, I adore you. Can I be conservative yet liberal? Is that an oxymoron like me being a girly girl tomboy? Kiss me, I'm a Liberal.

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#19


Maybe McCain was not as great as he is being made out to be.


After returning from being a POW, he divorced his first wife now disfigured from a car accident, that happened
while he was gone, also left her with 3 kids. A while after, he married his current, rich, pretty, 18 years younger wife.
You decide. Article below.


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/carol-mccain/
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#20
McCain sure wasn't a saint. I don't think that's a secret to anyone.

The circumstances of his divorce were speculated about and used against him in his presidential bids.

His ex-wife and mother to his three eldest children nonetheless said that he was a great guy, a great friend, and the best man for president. She sounds like a class act.

For me, the fact that McCain served his country diligently before and after being tortured as a Vietnam POW makes him deserving of the highest honors, regardless of the circumstances surrounding his divorce 40 years ago.
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