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Smollet hate crime
#41
"If". The police have everything the evidence was presented to a jury and they gave a verdict of guilty and it was all brushed away.
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#42
Grand juries don't deliver verdicts as to whether someone is guilty or not guilty of a crime.

They hear early theories and evidence and decide whether there's enough there to indict.  It's up to the District Attorney to decide whether the case should be prosecuted or not based on several factors.  

The District Attorney in this case decided not to press criminal charges against Smollett.  

Personally, I think he's guilty of a fucked-up, self-centered and politically-motivated hoax.  But, that's just my opinion, it's not an established fact or verdict.  

Smollett was not found guilty by a jury of his peers or a judge who had the benefit of deliberating full evidence and cases presented by both sides.
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#43
It is established fact. The powers that be just chose to make it go away.
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#44
(04-12-2019, 01:10 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Personally, I think he's guilty of a fucked-up, self-centered and politically-motivated hoax.  But, that's just my opinion, it's not an established fact or verdict. 

Agreed, and I think he did such a disservice to the black community with his bullshit.
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#45
Fortunately, in accordance with the Constitution, the U.S. Criminal Justice system (with all its flaws) provides suspects the presumption of innocence and a fair trial.

Proclamations of guilt by pompous dipshits who habitually insist their opinions are facts are legally irrelevant, as is the collective court of public opinion (especially the opinions of those members of the public who have no chance of being considered for a U.S. jury).

Anyway, back to the case itself........................since Smollett is thus far refusing to pay the City of Chicago and planning to fight the suit against him, the public will likely hear more facts of the case in civil court (where the burden of proof is lower than criminal court).

I won't be too surprised if Smollett changes his mind and settles before it gets that far, but we'll see.
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#46
I don't think he's bright enough to do that but probably pigheaded enough not to listen to his lawyers.
He ain't heavy, he's my brother.
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#47
(04-12-2019, 01:44 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Fortunately, in accordance with the Constitution, the U.S. Criminal Justice system (with all its flaws) provides suspects the presumption of innocence and a fair trial.

Proclamations of guilt by pompous dipshits who habitually insist their opinions are facts are legally irrelevant, as is the collective court of public opinion (especially the opinions of those members of the public who have no chance of being considered for a U.S. jury).

Anyway, back to the case itself........................since Smollett is thus far refusing to pay the City of Chicago and planning to fight the suit against him, the public will likely hear more facts of the case in civil court (where the burden of proof is lower than criminal court).

I won't be too surprised if Smollett changes his mind and settles before it gets that far, but we'll see.

Some dipshits do not know what they "know". For example, the Chicago police and FBI, Through meticulous investigation were able to confidently claim that this was fraud and perpetuated by Smollet himself, a rich, well-connected, gay, black man.

The degree of certainty to both authorise and make this claim (and then press this further with damages claim, et al) has to be rock solid.

Bleach freezes at the temperature of that night, they have the brothers, the cheque, the videos before and after, phone records, the letter, they have everything. They had their ducks in a row. It was not up for serious contradiction.

It was not that there were doubts, flaws or anything to do but prosecute. That is the truth of it. Jussie was protected.

So in this instance, YOU are the pompous dipshit and we only need to see you rail against Conservatives/religious for wanting to restrict women's bodily autonomy or whatever, when you know those groups ACTUALLY want to preserve babies lives, to see the very example of YOU passing off YOUR opinions as facts.

Why are you a hypocrite?
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#48
(04-12-2019, 01:49 PM)Maggot Wrote: I don't think he's bright enough to do that but probably pigheaded enough not to listen to his lawyers.

So far, his defense attorney, the (in)famous Mark Geragos, doesn't appear to be advising Smollett to settle rather than go to civil court (based on his public statements).  

Instead, Geragos is claiming that the Chicago PD owes Smollett an apology for publicly disparaging 'innocent' Jussie. Geragos says he'll depose Chicago Mayor Rahm Emmanuel and Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson and will demand the "entire investigation file" in civil court proceedings.

In related news, yesterday Cook County State's Attorney Kim Foxx requested the state's Inspector General to review her office's handling of the case.  She claims it was handled in accordance with protocol. There's a lot of emotion, ego, and politics from the city officials involved in the case.  So, I think it's a good move on her part to welcome the IG's objective input.  Ref: https://abc7chicago.com/kim-foxx-asks-fo...d/5245320/
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#50
How is this case going? Any truth, understanding and liberty happening? perhaps a few defining moments.
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#51
I'm not sure anyone cares about him. He did such a disservice to his own race and pissed off a lot of people.
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#52
has this guy been dragged back to reality?
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#53
I wonder how this turned out. And will there be riots.
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#54
Are they rioting in Wisconsin because of the rittenhouse verdict? Waiting, waiting, waiting.
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#55
Oh Jussie you dope!

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#56
Harris is probably going to be replaced by Bootiejizz. Yay! Postwhore
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#57
Guilty on 6 of 7 counts. Will he serve time?
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#58
Good. Anyone who makes false statements to the police should be prosecuted for them.
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#59
Not just lies but lies about MAGA people lynching him. Amazingly stupid and idiotically conceived.
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#60
Let me see if I understand this correctly--someone lying about maga people=bad, very bad, but maga people lying is meh, so what, especially the head maga piece of shit who lies every time he opens his mouth. Do I have that right? You support & defend maga liars, but those who lie about maga are filthy liars.  *snort laugh*
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