Gay Marriage / Gay Rights

[sally]

The little I've seen of Graham I liked him. But that's without knowing much of anything, just listening to him speak a couple of times. Yeah I could google him if I gave a fuck.

He also comes across as kind of gay, but not in a bad way.

[HairOfTheDog]

I agree with Graham at times too. He doesn't always just go along with the rest of the party and sometimes takes a moderate or bi-partisan position.

That's probably why his poll numbers are so low with strictly Republican voters.

I don't know if he's gay, but he's got a kind of feminine look to him.

[Maggot]

I don't understand the need to say "they are gay" it has nothing to do with the job and saying so only strokes the person saying it. When a hetero person is hired nobody says "they are not gay". I swear the political correctness of this nation will be its downfall.

Go,Go Trump.

[Jimbone]

When a hetero person is hired nobody says "they are not gay".

It would be hysterical if they were though.

[HairOfTheDog]

Fanning's experience makes him well-qualified for the job. And, he is reportedly well-respected and liked at the Pentagon.

I don't need to know that he's gay either, but I can see where it's important symbolically to show the progress of gay equality in the U.S.

Not that long ago, the army could reject or eject people for being gay. Then, the army agreed not to reject or eject people for being gay, so long as those people kept quiet about being gay. Now, not only does the army accept openly gay people, the highest Army civilian post will be occupied by an openly gay person for the first time in the nation's history; a gay man who could also legally get married for the first time in the nation's history.

I think it's newsworthy because it's a historic "first" (and the Senate will likely confirm the appointment without much resistance).

[Jimbone]

Big Gay Al thinks it's super!

[Duchess]

I can see where it's important symbolically to show the progress of gay equality in the U.S.


I think it's newsworthy because it's a historic "first" (and the Senate will likely confirm the appointment without much resistance).

I agree that it's important to show progress on that front. Some people had a shit fit when Michael Sam kept being referred to as the first openly gay football player too. The people who have complained about those two things don't like it when someone is called "the first black" whatever either.

[Duchess]

Has anyone seen it confirmed that Kim Davis met with the Pope last week? The Vatican will neither confirm nor deny it happened and her attorneys are saying it did. I'm not taking their word for it, they have already been caught in at least one lie where she is concerned. I want to see proof.

[HairOfTheDog]

Has anyone seen it confirmed that Kim Davis met with the Pope last week? The Vatican will neither confirm nor deny it happened and her attorneys are saying it did. I'm not taking their word for it, they have already been caught in at least one lie where she is concerned. I want to see proof.

I can see the Pope agreeing to meet with someone positioned as a fighter for freedom of religious expression and conscientious objection to gay marriage.

He's a worldwide religious leader and spokesman for the Catholic church; not someone who's viewing things or people from a U.S. Constitutional or Supreme Court/legal lens.

I think the meeting probably happened and photos might be released later. If so, it won't legitimize Kim Davis in my eyes.

The GOP did confirm that Kim Davis switched political parties last week and is now a registered Republican like her religious/political cheerleaders Mike Huckabee and Ted Cruz.

[Duchess]

I can see the Pope agreeing to meet with someone positioned as a fighter for freedom of religious expression and conscientious objection to gay marriage.

I can too but I don't think she is worthy of attention from the Pope. If I had to I think I could come up with more deserving people.

[Maggot]

Oh wont you listen what the pope said he said......

[HairOfTheDog]

Has anyone seen it confirmed that Kim Davis met with the Pope last week? The Vatican will neither confirm nor deny it happened and her attorneys are saying it did. I'm not taking their word for it, they have already been caught in at least one lie where she is concerned. I want to see proof.

The Vatican has clarified that despite the much-publicized private meeting between Pope Francis and Kentucky clerk Kim Davis last week in Washington, D.C., the meeting should not be equated to the pontiff giving his support for Davis' position on refusing to issue marriage licenses to gay couples.

"The pope did not enter into the details of the situation of Mrs. Davis and his meeting with her should not be considered a form of support of her position in all of its particular and complex aspects," wrote Father Federico Lombardi, SJ, the head of the Holy See Press Office, in a statement released by the Vatican on Friday.

Lombardi added that Davis was only one of several dozen people the pope privately met during his week in the U.S., and it would be incorrect to read too much into the brief encounters.

"Pope Francis met with several dozen persons who had been invited by the Nunciature to greet him as he prepared to leave Washington for New York City," the spokesman said.

Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/pope-f...euQTVwM.99

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I don't know who got Kim Davis on the group invitation list; that's not clear.

In any case, while in the U.S., the Pope came face-to-face with thousands of people, gave them rosaries, told them to stay strong and pray for him...

Still, even if the meeting was exactly as Kim Davis describes/perceives it, it wouldn't bother me. I disagree with the Catholic Church's stance on homosexuality and gay marriage, just like I disagree with Kim Davis.

Luckily, we don't live in the United Catholic/Christian States of America, so the Pope's and the Church's position doesn't dictate the law of the land, nor is anyone obligated to adopt his moral views or definitions of right and wrong.

And, I agree with the Pope that conscientious objection is a right held by everyone. I don't begrudge people their rights to protest, that includes Kim Davis. But, if they break the law and/or infringe upon the rights of others in the process of protesting, they should be held legally accountable, that includes Kim Davis too.

[Duchess]

In 2009 only 4 states recognized marriage equality and today, in every state in America you're free to marry the person you love. I'm really proud of my country for this.

[Som Yung Ho]

Are gays allowed to vote there?

[Clang McFly]

Are gays allowed to vote there?

Yes.

[Som Yung Ho]

Are they allowed to own there own home?

[Duchess]

Playing dumb doesn't flatter you.

[Som Yung Ho]

Oh well, at least they are not allowed to drive.

[Maggot]

Who really cares what happens in a bedroom anyways. I don't like seeing people make out in the park though. straight, fags or lezzies.

[Duchess]

I don't like PDA's either and I don't consider anyone's sex life my business.