(11-07-2018, 01:50 PM)Maggot Wrote: It's not such a bd day and could have been worse if people stayed home but it was a great day for turnout yesterday and in the end it was worth it. The bottom line: Republicans control 30 state legislatures and Democrats control 18 — compared to 31 and 14 before the election. In 21 states, there are both Republican governors and Republican majority legislatures. Democrats have full state control in  14 states.

David Boutin "a good freind of mine" and Chris Sununu won and thats all i was expecting.

eh, a split decision. this country loves split government.

the big loser...   Nancy Pelosi.

if you look at the exit polling data, 41% of the 110 million people who voted want Trump impeached. It is a safe bet the vast majority of them are dems. Old Nancy s going to find her nuts in a vise. How is she going to appease them without holding impeachment hearings? Impeachment will never pass the senate. 2020 is going to be a free for all.


#conventionofstates

(11-07-2018, 01:29 PM)Duchess Wrote: HotD, are you seeing this press conference? Holy shit balls! Ahahahahahahahahaha.

I had to do a couple of assessments and just got back, so I didn't see it.

But, I can imagine President Trump declared it a winning night for himself and all in the Republican party who lined up with him.  I'll search out the video in a bit and check it out.

Gaining a couple of seats in the Senate was a win for Trump and company, for sure.  Red state Dems are becoming extinct.

But, there's no realistic denial that the midterm results are a big victory for the Democrats (and the country, in my opinion).  They got control of a branch of Congress by more seats than needed and picked up at least 7 governorships.  That will result in big changes for Trump and the Republicans, no doubt about it.

I hope the Dems investigate what needs to be looked into in order to restart Congress's role as a check on the Executive, without overreaching and going down every rabbit hole.

And, I expect to see Pelosi do what she does best - find common ground and work out bi-partisan deals to get some things done for the country.  There could be some real opportunity, if Trump decides to be President to ALL Americans, when it comes to issues like infrastructure, healthcare protections and improvements, immigration reform...

Well, I just watched some clips from Trump's press conference today. Predictable.

He declared the midterms a 'huge victory' for the Republicans, though losing at least 34 Republican leadership positions for a couple of Senate seats is certainly not a victory. Bluster and spin; to be expected from Trump and his devotees.

Threatening the country with no 'bi-partisan deals' and the Dems with Senate action if the House Dems dare to launch probes, which is part of their role, wasn't surprising either. Typically disappointing, but not surprising.

As for his self-proclaimed ability to shut down the Mueller investigation if he feels like it, that's fiction. I think we'll be seeing more action from Mueller's team soon enough, now that the midterms are over.

(11-07-2018, 01:19 PM)Maggot Wrote: I don't think any of the places he targeted got anyone elected.

trump endorsed 31, 28 of them lost.  

(11-07-2018, 03:55 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Well, I just watched some clips from Trump's press conference today.  Predictable.

He declared the midterms a 'huge victory' for the Republicans, though losing at least 34 Republican leadership positions for a couple of Senate seats is certainly not a victory.  Bluster and spin; to be expected from Trump and his devotees.

Threatening the country with no 'bi-partisan deals' and the Dems with Senate action if the House Dems dare to launch probes, which is part of their role, wasn't surprising either.  Typically disappointing, but not surprising.

As for his self-proclaimed ability to shut down the Mueller investigation if he feels like it, that's fiction.  I think we'll be seeing more action from Mueller's team soon enough, now that the midterms are over.

I wanted trump to push over the lectern at Jim Acousta & Peter Alexander so bad! I may even have muttered pleasepleaseplease.

(11-07-2018, 03:55 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Well, I just watched some clips from Trump's press conference today. Predictable.

He declared the midterms a 'huge victory' for the Republicans, though losing at least 34 Republican leadership positions for a couple of Senate seats is certainly not a victory. Bluster and spin; to be expected from Trump and his devotees.

Threatening the country with no 'bi-partisan deals' and the Dems with Senate action if the House Dems dare to launch probes, which is part of their role, wasn't surprising either. Typically disappointing, but not surprising.

As for his self-proclaimed ability to shut down the Mueller investigation if he feels like it, that's fiction. I think we'll be seeing more action from Mueller's team soon enough, now that the midterms are over.

"He declared the midterms a 'huge victory' for the Republicans, though losing at least 34 Republican leadership positions for a couple of Senate seats is certainly not a victory. Bluster and spin; to be expected from Trump and his devotees."

Is this FACT or BULLSHIT?

Is it a huge win? Sure it is.

He has just replaced Jeff Sessions who recused himself from the Russia probe. Rosenstein will be relieved from his acting duties and suddenly Mueller will be reporting to Whittaker. Whittaker will look at whether or not the probe was instigated on false grounds and likely can the Mueller investigation or tell him to wrap it up.

Trump has his agenda and one thing he copped a lot of crap over was his inability to pass anything through the house. Now he has a group of 2 year termers who want to show that they are not just obstructionalists and that the Democrats when getting power can achieve things and Trump needs to implement his agenda.

This looks great for Trump. He will either get thwarted by the Dems and in two years they vote out the Dems in the House as being useless or they help Trump do the aspects of his agenda that he was finding it difficult getting.

A lot of their investigations are do-overs of previous investigations and not likely to find anything and going down such paths will be loss-makers for them. A lot of other investigations they are too restricted by the other branches of government and the Courts to get any purchase from.

As someone said "Nancy Pelosi's balls are in a vice"

I am interested to see what comes out of the Huber and Horowitz camps.

It is great that a lot of the dead wood was cut and no longer a part of the Republican party. Greats like Flake and Corker are no more. Shame 40+ resignations helped cause the House losses, but it is not so bad. Most of the Republicans elected in both Houses of Congress are Pro-Trump.

(11-07-2018, 12:56 PM)Duchess Wrote:

(11-07-2018, 12:35 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: With several races still uncalled, here are the election results as of this morning:

1.  House of Representative:  Democrats won 27 seats; now hold 220 seats.  Republicans lost 27 seats; now hold 193 seats.
2.  Senate:  Republicans won 2 seats; now hold 51 seats.  Democrats lost 2 seats; now hold 45 seats.
3.  Governors:  Democrats won 7 governorships; now hold 22.  Republicans lost 7 governorships; now hold 25.

The Democrat is leading in Montana and we should know any time now if he has won, 99% is in. Hopeful!

Democrat Jon Tester from deep red Montana has officially won re-election to the Senate.  

So, that makes 46 Senate seats for the Dems, with Tester joining Joe Manchin (West Virginia) as the Dems who've managed to hold their senate seats in districts Trump won by double digits in 2016.

Will be interesting to see how the tight Senate race in Arizona plays out.  Republican Martha McSally was slightly ahead of Democrat Kyrsten Synema last I saw, but there are still absentee ballots being counted and it may take days to call a winner.

In Florida, Republican Rick Scott is slightly ahead of Democrat incumbent senator Bill Nelson.  But, since Scott's lead is less than half a percent, it will go to recount before a winner is called.

(11-07-2018, 05:28 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Democrat Jon Tester from deep red Montana has officially won re-election to the Senate. 

Yay! I'm glad to read that! So much winning.  *snort laugh*

What? An incumbent barely managed to keep his seat? * Snort * What a win!

(11-07-2018, 05:38 PM)Duchess Wrote:

(11-07-2018, 05:28 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Democrat Jon Tester from deep red Montana has officially won re-election to the Senate. 

Yay! I'm glad to read that! So much winning.  *snort laugh*

I was really glad to see Tester prevail.  President Trump campaigned very hard in Montana for Tester's Republican challenger Matt Rosendale, but failed to carry Rosendale over the finish line.

The President openly admitted that he holds a grudge against Tester for going public with ethics objections against Trump's nominee to head the large Department of Veteran's Affairs, even though Tester was the top Democrat on House Veteran's committee and Dr. Ronny Jackson wasn't qualified for the job on several fronts (as a number of Republicans attested).  

More than a year after Jackson's failed nomination...............Trump repeatedly berated Tester over it at his midterm Montana rallies calling it 'personal'.

Trump also endorsed incumbent Republican congressman Greg Gianforte, who Trump praised at a Montana rally for criminally assaulting a journalist.  Gianforte's race isn't fully counted yet, but he's leading his Democratic challenger by a few points with 97% of votes tallied.

(10-16-2018, 02:51 PM)BigMark Wrote: I hate time changes...

Well California Prop 7 passed with 60% of voters in favor of keeping daylight savings time all year round.

The proposal grants the California State Legislature the power to vote to change the clocks permanently. But, any such changes would need to start with a two-thirds majority vote in the state legislature and then be approved by Congress, so it's not clear when/if it will become a reality.

Florida approved a similar proposition earlier this year and Senator Rubio has pushed forward two bills to put year round daylight savings time into effect in the state, but Congress hasn't prioritized/considered them at all so far.

(Except for reservations) Arizona did succeed in doing away with time changes back in the late 1960s though. So, it could happen.

https://www.vox.com/midterm-elections/20...year-round

Well,
I've made it through an hour of the press conference stopping several times to eat, chat on the phone, let the dog out, and now I just can't hit play. I don't know why I am watching this BS. I want to see a particular comment he made to a Japanese reporter and then I will stop watching. Or not.
I am trying really hard to focus on all of the positive wins.

In my state people are not happy about a new gun law that will go into effect. That may require a different thread all together.

His comment wasn't actually that bad.
But he did deflect on several questions of course.

My favorite being, "How are you going to deal with the hate in the country" He starts talking about China and how succesful we have to be and become and that is how you overcome hate. Wow.

There were more things, I don't feel like commenting on it right now.

People have to own their own emotions because they are grown ups. He is not responsible for their emotions. If they want to be angry, sad or hateful, they can

(11-07-2018, 09:48 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: The President openly admitted that he holds a grudge against Tester for going public with ethics objections against Trump's nominee to head the large Department of Veteran's Affairs, even though Tester was the top Democrat on House Veteran's committee and Dr. Ronny Jackson wasn't qualified for the job on several fronts (as a number of Republicans attested). 

That big fuckin' baby is holding a grudge against a few because they wouldn't "embrace trump". It's 5^th grade in the White House.

...and like dictators everywhere, he has begun to pull press credentials.

I'm glad those stupid mid-terms are over.

(11-08-2018, 04:02 AM)Duchess Wrote: That big fuckin' baby is holding a grudge against a few because they wouldn't "embrace trump". It's 5^th grade in the White House.

...and like dictators everywhere, he has begun to pull press credentials.

I watched the full press conference last night.  It was more off-the-rails than usual, in my opinion.  Seems to me that Trump knows full well that his days of being unchecked by the Congress are over........and he's none too pleased.

Naming off Republicans who didn't 'embrace' him and taunting them was petty and vindictive alright.  

I think Republicans in blue/purple districts were wise to distance themselves from Trump's extreme rhetoric and endorsement.  And, some of the congresspersons in red districts who fully embraced Trump lost their races anyway.

The President's hostility towards the press was more bizarre than usual too, in my opinion.  

I see that the White House pulled Jim Acosta's press pass after the press conference for 'laying hands on a staffer".  Bullshit, he simply didn't allow the staffer to grab the microphone out of his hands mid-sentence.

Here's the exchange in slow mo.



I see some of the right-wing sites are claiming Acosta 'pysically assaulted a staffer'. Hysterical drama-mongers.

They sound drunk. 

Even if I hadn't watched videos showing different angles of the "assault", I could still tell by the body language that the woman was being aggressive with Acosta while he was trying to pull away from her.

KavaNaw credible accusers - HOW DARE YOU TRY TO TARNISH HIS REPUTATION WITH LIES AND FEMALE DECEIT!

Acosta tries to continue questioning Trump - HOW DARE YOU ASSAULT THAT INNOCENT YOUNG WOMAN MERELY TRYING TO DO HER JOB.

Fucking hypocrites.