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She said, He said
#1
So the "Me too" movement is officially old enough to warrant a movie adaptation in the film "She Said", a depiction of the Weinstein saga and the (female) reporters who brought him down. I haven't watched it and likely won't, not because I'm somehow offended or attacked but because "intrepid reporter" movies bore the hell out of me.
But the film's release did make me pause and reflect, much like the original movement did years ago. I remember my unease at the sheer volume of women coming forward with just relentless stories of fending off unwanted sexual misconduct by men. And I remember seeing myself in a lot of that described behavior despite fancying myself a pretty enlightened guy. Especially places like Mockforums, where I realized my version of "treat everyone equally" was basically "just another fucking douchebro asshole" for many.
It was epiphanic. And it was a lifetime ago. Lot of news cycles since then. Lot of death and destruction and bigger worries than sexual harassment, and sadly a lot of behavior so bad that the "Me too" stuff almost seems quaint. Like nostalgia for a time when the worst thing we could think of was some jackass doing an unsolicited grab-ass on the subway or showing his dick in the green room. How the hell did THOSE become the Good old days?
Anyway, end of reflection. Hope everyone here is well...
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#2
The sniffer-in-chief comes to mind, as does Bob Packwood. Joe seems to be doing less sniffing these days.
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#3
What's up with the men in Buffalo? I was there for a week several years ago for my son's bowling tournament and I got groped and sexually harassed in that one week more than my whole lifetime. We were staying at a nice hotel during the Taste of Buffalo food festival. I dress pretty conservative and don't think I look like a hooker or anything so I don't know. Even the chef at the hotel asked me if I'd like to get a room with him. WTF, I was just in the elevator minding my own business.
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#4
Should I know who Bob Packwood is?

Packwood. *snicker*

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(11-19-2022, 05:14 PM)sally Wrote: What's up with the men in Buffalo? I was there for a week several years ago for my son's bowling tournament and I got groped and sexually harassed  in that one week more than my whole lifetime. We were staying at a nice hotel during the Taste of Buffalo food festival. I dress pretty conservative and don't think I look like a hooker or anything so I don't know. Even the chef at the hotel asked me if I'd like to get a room with him. WTF, I was just in the elevator minding my own business.

Were you wearing knee pads?
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#6
No. Some fucking ugly bum at the food festival grabbed my pussy, not even good enough to brag about. At least if Donald Trump or Bill Clinton grabs your pussy you can be like "hey, you will not believe who grabbed my pussy. "
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#7
If Trump grabbed my pussy i'd knock his old ass out, then bronze it.
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#8
Speaking of Me Too... have you seen the stories about women that were so badly mistreated that they've had newspaper articles written about them? Like that 23 year old that went out with Jake Gyllenhaal and he ghosted her after a few months? Yeah, that one was heartbreaking and the way it was written up made her sound like a dimwitted 12 year old that had no idea what was going on. Another was the woman that aggressively pursued Aziz Ansari. When she went over to his house, he asked her for a blowjob, she did and then scurried off to tell her harrowing story to a low level women's publication saying he was basically a rapist and she had no other option than to submit. You know, instead of just getting up and leaving.

https://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/122580524.html
https://www.nationalmemo.com/bad-date-aziz-ansari

Granted, Me Too was an important movement. It gave a lot of men insight for their bad behavior. But it also seems to have allowed some women to convince themselves they were helpless victims and infantilized their responsibilities in a situation.
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#9
when they burp and slap yo ass on the way out...
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#10
(11-19-2022, 11:55 AM)Donovan Wrote: So the "Me too" movement is officially old enough to warrant a movie adaptation in the film "She Said", a depiction of the Weinstein saga and the (female) reporters who brought him down. I haven't watched it and likely won't, not because I'm somehow offended or attacked but because "intrepid reporter" movies bore the hell out of me.
But the film's release did make me pause and reflect, much like the original movement did years ago. I remember my unease at the sheer volume of women coming forward with just relentless stories of fending off unwanted sexual misconduct by men. And I remember seeing myself in a lot of that described behavior despite fancying myself a pretty enlightened guy. Especially places like Mockforums, where I realized my version of "treat everyone equally" was basically "just another fucking douchebro asshole" for many.
It was epiphanic. And it was a lifetime ago. Lot of news cycles since then. Lot of death and destruction and bigger worries than sexual harassment, and sadly a lot of behavior so bad that the "Me too" stuff almost seems quaint. Like nostalgia for a time when the worst thing we could think of was some jackass doing an unsolicited grab-ass on the subway or showing his dick in the green room. How the hell did THOSE become the Good old days?
Anyway, end of reflection. Hope everyone here is well...

The first time I saw the title I thought it said, "She Shed" my mom has a "she shed" but she calls it the "Shed Out Back" and she has a sign on it that says "S.O.B."

Sorry I don't have more to say on the subject at this moment, I'm just breezing by before hitting the road. Good to see you Donovan!

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#11
(11-19-2022, 05:14 PM)sally Wrote: What's up with the men in Buffalo? I was there for a week several years ago for my son's bowling tournament and I got groped and sexually harassed  in that one week more than my whole lifetime. We were staying at a nice hotel during the Taste of Buffalo food festival. I dress pretty conservative and don't think I look like a hooker or anything so I don't know. Even the chef at the hotel asked me if I'd like to get a room with him. WTF, I was just in the elevator minding my own business.

You're pretty much a Buffalo 10. But don't get too excited, with my hair long so am I. They're not real picky. And not real bright. Probably never saw a woman with all her teeth before.
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#12
Trust me, I didn't feel honored or anything. I just thought to myself is this some kind of fluke or all the men in Buffalo stupid perverts.
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#13
So its international mens day and there is a #mentoo on Twitter and I don't know what to think about it-as in are they making fun?

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#14
The Me too movement helped many women get just retaliation for ordeals they were subjected to.

However, can’t help but wonder (during the height of the Me too movement with all the accusations going on) if some men were accused of wrong doings, by women who had a score to settle with the men because they cheated on or 
jilted them. Just saying.  Smiley_emoticons_skeptisch
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(11-19-2022, 07:53 PM)sally Wrote: Trust me, I didn't feel honored or anything. I just thought to myself is this some kind of fluke or all the men in Buffalo stupid perverts.

They're all just kind of gross. There is definitely a cultural thing up here, very misogynistic entitlement kind-of thing.
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(11-19-2022, 09:45 PM)Carsman Wrote: The Me too movement helped many women get just retaliation for ordeals they were subjected to.

However, can’t help but wonder (during the height of the Me too movement with all the accusations going on) if some men were accused of wrong doings, by women who had a score to settle with the men because they cheated on or 
jilted them. Just saying.  Smiley_emoticons_skeptisch

I would imagine that the number of false accusations against men is far smaller than the number of justified or unreported genuine incidents. Especially given that the immediate response to any accusation STILL ranges from "boys will be boys" to outright disbelief.
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#17
Exactly.

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#18
I think there are many women who have exaggerated their claims.

Many of us have experienced unwanted sexual advances, I've always chalked it up to men being a dick. I've never felt like a victim and I probably wouldn't even if he threw me to the ground and took what he wanted. I don't want to be a victim, I think it's a demeaning term. The women who exaggerate their claims do a disservice to those who actually went through the horror of being abused. I feel disdain for those women.
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#19
I didn't want to either. It was easier to say that maybe I wanted it or was okay with it so I wouldn't have to admit what actually happened.

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#20
I hate fucking commenting in these threads. I don't want to be a downer!

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