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**Duchess** · 07-08-2023, 12:08 PM

(07-08-2023, 09:19 AM)BlueTiki Wrote: As an aside . . . what the fuck is "Bidenomics"?

According to google, that term originated in the WSJ/Financial Times. When used by (many) republicans it is used as a slur.

**rothschild** · 07-08-2023, 04:29 PM

Biden's so far out of the loop that it should be called Demo-nomics.

**Clang McFly** · 07-09-2023, 01:05 AM

(07-08-2023, 04:29 PM)rothschild Wrote: Biden's so far out of the loop that it should be called Demo-nomics.

Still better than Trump and his crooked zig zag loop. Or denying there is a loop.

**Duchess** · 07-09-2023, 05:18 AM

There are millions of people who believe trump is their guy, he's the one they want even knowing all that's been reported about him. It speaks to who the voter is. trump doesn't care about those people, they are the same people he rips off daily, trump cares about trump and that's all he cares about. There are trump supporters being sent to prison for years because they listened to him and I laugh every time. I sometimes watch people interviewed who are at his hate rallies, they are as deranged as he is.

**Carsman** · 07-09-2023, 08:28 AM

(07-09-2023, 05:18 AM)Duchess Wrote: There are millions of people who believe trump is their guy, he's the one they want even knowing all that's been reported about him. It speaks to who the voter is. trump doesn't care about those people, they are the same people he rips off daily, trump cares about trump and that's all he cares about. There are trump supporters being sent to prison for years because they listened to him and I laugh every time. I sometimes watch people interviewed who are at his hate rallies, they are as deranged as he is.

There are millions of people who believe Biden is their guy, he’s the one they want even
knowing all that’s been reported about him! It speaks to who the voter is.

**Duchess** · 07-09-2023, 11:07 AM

Well cars. When the choice is Joe Biden or donald fucking trump I am choosing President Biden every time.

**rothschild** · 07-09-2023, 11:44 AM

(07-09-2023, 11:07 AM)Duchess Wrote: Well cars. When the choice is Joe Biden or donald fucking trump I am choosing President Biden every time.

I've never seen you question why that is the kind of "choice" that voters are allowed to make. And I have yet to see the Democratic Party provide a plausible explanation for how Hunter Biden ended up on the board of directors of of a Ukrainian energy company owned by a Ukrainian gangster. All I have seen is denial and continuous deflection by referencing Trump and "Russian interference". Democrats believe their party's election behavior is pristine. Given the history of American politics that illustrates profound ignorance, which contributes to a skewed worldview.

I don't think Republicans are any better. Neither side is capable of self-examination. They're like children in a sandbox that constantly throw sand at each other, oblivious of their emotional immaturity and inability to think rationally. This is why we have abysmal election outcomes irrespective of which candidate wins. Both sides justify it by blaming the other party. A pattern of behavior that is best characterized as Pavlovian.

**Duchess** · 07-09-2023, 12:24 PM

(07-09-2023, 11:44 AM)rothschild Wrote: I've never seen you question why that is the kind of "choice" that voters are allowed to make. And I have yet to see the Democratic Party provide a plausible explanation for how Hunter Biden ended up on the board of directors of of a Ukrainian energy company owned by a Ukrainian gangster. All I have seen is denial and continuous deflection by referencing Trump and "Russian interference". Democrats believe their party's election behavior is pristine. Given the history of American politics that illustrates profound ignorance, which contributes to a skewed worldview.

I don't think Republicans are any better. Neither side is capable of self-examination. They're like children in a sandbox that constantly throw sand at each other, oblivious of their emotional immaturity and inability to think rationally. This is why we have abysmal election outcomes irrespective of which candidate wins. Both sides justify it by blaming the other party. A pattern of behavior that is best characterized as Pavlovian.

We have a 2 party system in our country, when, or if, that changes then I will have another choice, right? Why would I bemoan something that isn't there?

I'll have something to say about Hunter Biden when he runs for office or his father gives him a position in the White House. I would be deeply concerned if his father were to override staff and give him security clearance to see our country's secrets.

Don't try to equate Democrats & maga republicans to me.

**rothschild** · 07-09-2023, 02:03 PM

(07-09-2023, 12:24 PM)Duchess Wrote:
(07-09-2023, 11:44 AM)rothschild Wrote: I've never seen you question why that is the kind of "choice" that voters are allowed to make. And I have yet to see the Democratic Party provide a plausible explanation for how Hunter Biden ended up on the board of directors of of a Ukrainian energy company owned by a Ukrainian gangster. All I have seen is denial and continuous deflection by referencing Trump and "Russian interference". Democrats believe their party's election behavior is pristine. Given the history of American politics that illustrates profound ignorance, which contributes to a skewed worldview.

I don't think Republicans are any better. Neither side is capable of self-examination. They're like children in a sandbox that constantly throw sand at each other, oblivious of their emotional immaturity and inability to think rationally. This is why we have abysmal election outcomes irrespective of which candidate wins. Both sides justify it by blaming the other party. A pattern of behavior that is best characterized as Pavlovian.

We have a 2 party system in our country, when, or if, that changes then I will have another choice, right? Why would I bemoan something that isn't there?

I'll have something to say about Hunter Biden when he runs for office or his father gives him a position in the White House. I would be deeply concerned if his father were to override staff and give him security clearance to see our country's secrets.

Don't try to equate Democrats & maga republicans to me.

There's only one plausible explanation for Hunter being on a board of directors in Ukraine, and that's Joe biden. There are other possibilities, but none that are plausible. If the Democratic Party can't acknowledge blatant graft in it's own house, it's just as morally bankrupt as the Republican Party. You won't acknowledge that because it destroys your rationale for supporting it.

Our broken politics isn't going to change because a majority of Americans have the same attitude you expressed. No sense of responsibility for doing what's necessary to fix it. Just keep doing the same ol' thing while the nation goes to hell in a handbasket.

**Duchess** · 07-09-2023, 02:30 PM

republicans have been trying to confirm this for years now, rothschild. If there's one thing I'm certain of is that if there was something to it, they would have been fucking delighted to show us all their proof.

In regards to broken politics, you think you have the answer to everything. It will remain a 2 party system long after you & I are dead. Don't you think if it were possible it would have been done by now?

**rothschild** · 07-09-2023, 04:39 PM

(07-09-2023, 02:30 PM)Duchess Wrote: republicans have been trying to confirm this for years now, rothschild. If there's one thing I'm certain of is that if there was something to it, they would have been fucking delighted to show us all their proof.

That doesn't address the fact that there is only one plausible explanation. Anyone who refuses to acknowledge that is going to reject out of hand the need for an unbiased investigation, without which there is no possibility of gathering sufficient evidence to indict and prosecute.

Neither party has the moral integrity to conduct an unbiased investigation of anything, much less their own criminal conduct.

(07-09-2023, 02:30 PM)Duchess Wrote: In regards to broken politics, you think you have the answer to everything. It will remain a 2 party system long after you & I are dead. Don't you think if it were possible it would have been done by now?

Done by who, people who think it's someone else's responsibility, or are too apathetic to care?

**Carsman** · 07-09-2023, 10:26 PM

(07-09-2023, 11:07 AM)Duchess Wrote: Well cars. When the choice is Joe Biden or donald fucking trump I am choosing President Biden every time.

We can only hope that both parties finally wise up and bring some fresh meat to the party. America is facing doom if they don’t!

**Carsman** · 07-12-2023, 08:57 AM

And so it continues, Joey has done it again on Sunday.

This time during an interview, he gave out one of our “military weaknesses”,
by stating we are low on 155mm ammunition! He’s dangerous, what else will
he let slip out in the future?

**rothschild** · 07-12-2023, 10:37 AM

Joe's always been a stumblin', bumblin' buffoon. But he's not Trump!!!

**Carsman** · 07-12-2023, 09:03 PM

(07-12-2023, 10:37 AM)rothschild Wrote: Joe's always been a stumblin', bumblin' buffoon. But he's not Trump!!!

Neither one should be POTUS again! They’ve both proved that over and over again. America deserves better, much better!

**Clang McFly** · 07-12-2023, 09:44 PM

(07-12-2023, 09:03 PM)Carsman Wrote:
(07-12-2023, 10:37 AM)rothschild Wrote: Joe's always been a stumblin', bumblin' buffoon. But he's not Trump!!!

Neither one should be POTUS again! They’ve both proved that over and over again. America deserves better, much better!

Pence will save us all! Sarcasm01

**Duchess** · 07-13-2023, 05:28 AM

There is no one else that can beat trump.

**BigMark** · 07-13-2023, 07:49 AM

pompous ass versus accomplished dumbass

**BlueTiki** · 07-13-2023, 08:37 AM

(07-13-2023, 07:49 AM)BigMark Wrote: pompous ass versus accomplished dumbass

Orange Man vs. Old Yeller.

**BigMark** · 07-13-2023, 10:18 AM

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