They also posted this:

Update: Websites have been archived as a safeguard against potential information removal. Why was this necessary? In 2017, just hours after Trump took office, all mentions of climate change vanished from WhiteHouse .gov, replaced with a page outlining Trump’s “America First Energy Plan,” which prioritized oil, gas, and coal, with no reference to climate change or renewable energy. Shortly afterward, reports indicated that the EPA had been directed to remove its climate change section. A spokesperson for the Trump administration, stated they were “sprucing it up a bit, putting a little freshener on it, and getting it back up to the public.” However, the EPA page that once provided answers to frequently asked questions about climate change had disappeared.

I remember that!

Motherfucker is already starting his shit. He's been talking to world leaders and not doing it through the State Department where a transcript of all calls is made. He's doing it from his tacky resort, the same place where he kept our stolen secrets next to the toilet.

From what I read, he has not signed an agreement with the GSA yet, but is expected to do so eventually. They called him directly to congratulate him and they all described their conversations as cordial and talked about global peace and stability. But I guess that's just me defending him again.

(11-11-2024, 12:38 PM)sally Wrote: From what I read, he has not signed an agreement with the GSA yet, but is expected to do so eventually. They called him directly to congratulate him and they all described their conversations as cordial and talked about global peace and stability. But I guess that's just me defending him again.

What do you think they would say about someone as vindictive as he is? I would expect nothing less than what you have just described.

Would you prefer them to say something else? Do you think Zelensky was lying when he said their phone call was excellent? Are you mad because congratulations flooded in from around the globe and do you think that's a bad thing?

(11-11-2024, 01:31 PM)sally Wrote:  Do you think Zelensky was lying when he said their phone call was excellent?

Yes, I do. One of the last times those men talked was when trump tried to shake him down and get some dirt on President Biden. Don't you know any of the background on this?

Are you aware that Elon Musk was on the phone call as well?

I am aware of it, I was just asking your thoughts on it. Would you be upset if they called to congratulate Kamala had she won or do you think they wouldn't have?

(11-11-2024, 01:31 PM)sally Wrote: Would you prefer them to say something else? Do you think Zelensky was lying when he said their phone call was excellent? Are you mad because congratulations flooded in from around the globe and do you think that's a bad thing?

I believe the congratulations came from those attempting to cover their asses and do & say what they have to in order to remain on trump's good side. He is a vindictive little bitch along the lines of a teenage girl. I do not believe trump is liked nor respected by leaders around the world. trump is an exceedingly stupid person with the vocabulary of a 4^th grader. He is dumb and dangerous and our country will suffer because of it.

Well you can make up whatever you want for their reasons for calling, but that doesn't make it a fact. Continue on with your doom and gloom though.

They were kissin' the ring, Sal.

we went into a coma for four years i suggest you do the same for your mental health.

(11-11-2024, 02:38 PM)Duchess Wrote: They were kissin' the ring, Sal.

Would you rather the president of the US be walked all over? Do you somehow think they respected Biden/Harris more?

(11-11-2024, 02:38 PM)Duchess Wrote: They were kissin' the ring, Sal.

Whose ring was getting kissed when Hunter was hired to sit on the board of directors of a Ukrainian energy company?

If that's what you want to discuss, rothschild, go start a thread, don't do this shit. I know you find that nearly impossible, but give it a shot.

Why should he start another thread when you were the one that brought up finding out dirt on Biden?

(11-11-2024, 03:46 PM)sally Wrote: Why should he start another thread when you were the one that brought up finding out dirt on Biden?

Seriously? 

(11-10-2024, 08:57 PM)username Wrote: Please don’t!!! 

I’ve never said any president or party is perfect (far from it—I think both parties are horribly flawed and they’re even more so when you get to the extremes on either side (I consider Trump extreme although he’s becoming the new normal for Republicans sadly and I’d never vote for Bernie or AOC). 

Rather than your critiques, I’d like to hear how you’d raise the bar across party lines (or in spite of them).

(11-10-2024, 09:25 PM)username Wrote: Besides which my “bar” is higher than voting for an election denying, insurrection inciting, convicted felon, blatant racist and sexist pig who goes off on crazy tangents, speaks incoherently often, demands loyalty above all else and gives everyone who disagrees with him some childish, insulting nickname because he’s losing his god damn marbles. The roach that got under the bar is/was Trump.

So you think Trump's deficiencies rise to the level of supplying arms to a nation that's committing genocide, and if so, what does that say about your standards?

Do you want to parse the meaning of genocide while a people are being exterminated? What does that say about your standards?


It doesn't look to me like you've taken stock of the true political nature of the American state. You seem to be looking at Trump in isolation from the system he is a part of.

You seem to want to absolve those you supported of any responsibility for Trump's return to power, insisting that they did everything they could have done to prevent it, which strikes me as absurd because there are innumerable things that could have been done differently over the course of the last four years. But you say no, there are not, which I find to be consistent with victim psychology. No ability to look at what could have been done differently, just steadfast insistence that the fault lies elsewhere.

The mentality of powerlessness, and by extension, the exoneration of responsibility; and by your standards, it's acceptable for a nation's rulers to have such a mentality.

If you'd like to better understand the political nature of our nation I suggest you read Rousseau's Political Economy, followed by Sun Tzu's The Art of War, which articulate the unwritten rules of the game, as opposed to the insipid fluff that's disseminated by academia. At that point your expectations will be vastly more reasonable, and you will understand that Trump is precisely what *should* be expected in a society such as ours.

Welcome to MAGA Country. Please enjoy your stay!

(11-11-2024, 04:06 PM)Duchess Wrote:

(11-11-2024, 03:46 PM)sally Wrote: Why should he start another thread when you were the one that brought up finding out dirt on Biden?

Seriously? 

I guess your head would explode if you were to try and logically explain how an American drug addict ended up on the board of directors of a Ukrainian energy company, instead of insisting that if it was wrong our "democracy" would have done something about it.

I haven't given any thought to it whatsoever!

(11-11-2024, 04:47 PM)Duchess Wrote: I haven't given any thought to it whatsoever!

We've talked about it at least two times and in both instances you said that if it was wrong it would have been corrected, which is passing the buck insofar as expressing your own opinion on whether or not it was wrong is concerned.

I can only wonder as to what else you haven't given any thought to.