Conservative's Assertions re: Obama Admin

[sally]

You people are going to change the world, one small post at a time.

[HairOfTheDog]

Do those figures even include the super pacs' money?

Yeah, it's from their Federal Campaign Filings. It's the full amount collected by the party candidate, all inclusive by law, I believe. What Obama's filing doesn't include is the $15k that he raked in from the George Clooney fundraiser in one night (that fell into May). Lots of money in play here...

[HairOfTheDog]

You people are going to change the world, one small post at a time.

I firmly believe that it is the duty of each and every one of us to make the world a better place. If not for ourselves, for future generations. For the children, FFS - red, yellow, black or white...

Support Campaign Reform - do it now!

(okay, I'm gettin' punchy...)

[Duchess]

doesn't include is the $15k that he raked in from the George Clooney fundraiser in one night (that fell into May).

Is that the correct figure, 15 grand in one night? I don't mean to sound snotty but I don't think that's a great deal of money from a fund raiser.

[Jimbone]

Is that the correct figure, 15 grand in one night? I don't mean to sound snotty but I don't think that's a great deal of money from a fund raiser.

Nah, he netted $15 mil out of that one... $15K is what is cost to park your car at that event.

[shitstorm]

Government is totally corrupt and both sides are influenced by money, special interest groups and their party base.

We're fucked until we take all 3 of those out of the equation and elect people who are actually independent thinkers and are unbeholden to special interest groups and hostage to their party base.

But the mass sheeple won't vote for those candidates because they are told, and believe, "He can't win". Now, who does your above description fit that you have been told can't win? Who has been both maligned and ignored by the mainstream media and the entrenched party establishment? What politician - the ONLY politician - refuses to meet with lobbyists or take their money?

[shitstorm]

Government is totally corrupt and both sides are influenced by money, special interest groups and their party base.

We're fucked until we take all 3 of those out of the equation and elect people who are actually independent thinkers and are unbeholden to special interest groups and hostage to their party base.

That's why we Vermonters put Bernie in Congress many many moons ago.

Oh, really? Are you aware that was Bernie Sanders who torpedoed the audit the Fed legislation (that had overwhelming support in the house) and amended the house bill to limit the audit to TARP? Why did Sanders do that? Because he's a socialist and without the perpetual debt issued by the Fed the nanny state goes belly up.

[HairOfTheDog]

doesn't include is the $15k that he raked in from the George Clooney fundraiser in one night (that fell into May).

Is that the correct figure, 15 grand in one night? I don't mean to sound snotty but I don't think that's a great deal of money from a fund raiser.

Oops, meant $15M!

[shitstorm]

Is that the correct figure, 15 grand in one night? I don't mean to sound snotty but I don't think that's a great deal of money from a fund raiser.

Nah, he netted $15 mil out of that one... $15K is what is cost to park your car at that event.

And the event was 40K per plate. .0001 percenters.


Back to Fast and Furious...

Well before that criminal plot by the DoJ and the BATF, the American left globalists, along with their Mexican counterparts, were claiming Americans' gun rights should be taken away because of gun violence in Mexico. They claimed that Mexico's psychopaths were OUR problem. Hillary Clinton has said it, many times, as has the Messiah. I do believe Issa also pointed this out. The goal of the globalists and the left is to disarm America. These traitors thought that if a bunch of gun violence, in Mexico, took place and the guns could be shown to have come from the US, anti American traitors like Clinton, Obama and Holder could say, "See! We told you Americans are the cause and we can't allow our good neighbor, Mexico, to be the victims of American guns". Good bye 2^nd amendment - THEY HOPED. But, they fucked up and got a US Border Patrol murdered with their little plan and they got busted.

These people orchestrating all of this shit HATE America, our constitution, and the American people. They want a world government run by them with no resistance. They want pacified, mind controlled, obedient citizen consumers, completely neutered - just like the UK. Americans and our guns are THE obstacle to a one world government and that's why the criminals are so busy passing laws to protect themselves and criminalize any resistance.

[IMaDick]

doesn't include is the $15k that he raked in from the George Clooney fundraiser in one night (that fell into May).

Is that the correct figure, 15 grand in one night? I don't mean to sound snotty but I don't think that's a great deal of money from a fund raiser.

I hope you can make the math work out, I could not.

15 million in one night from one dinner party to an individual or even to the national committee with the legal limits that are set just say something is wrong.

[Duchess]

15 million in one night from one dinner party to an individual or even to the national committee with the legal limits that are set just say something is wrong.

Then why isn't something being done? It's not like that evening was a secret, the amount raised isn't a secret either, so if it's wrong and against policy why isn't anything being done?

[shitstorm]

15 million in one night from one dinner party to an individual or even to the national committee with the legal limits that are set just say something is wrong.

Then why isn't something being done? It's not like that evening was a secret, the amount raised isn't a secret either, so if it's wrong and against policy why isn't anything being done?

I'm sure it was all very legal. Campaign finance laws allow for all sorts of ways to give money. An individual can only give something like $2400. to a candidate but Goldman Sachs can outright buy a bitch, as they did with Obama. Not sure how. Maybe by giving to the DNC, or through a pac or by bundling. There are always ways around obstacles to buying politicians.

[IMaDick]

http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/contriblimits.shtml

[HairOfTheDog]

15 million in one night from one dinner party to an individual or even to the national committee with the legal limits that are set just say something is wrong.

It's all in the accounting and distribution. I'm sure the contributions were split between the various legal and separate categories for individual contributions. Also, at $40k per plate for 150 people, Obama netted $6M. The remainder came from the accompanying online raffle where the general public donated funds for a chance to attend.

Reference: Federal Regulations for Individual Contributors
-$2,500 per election to a Federal candidate or the candidate's campaign committee. Notice that the limit applies separately to each election. Primaries, runoffs and general elections are considered separate elections.
-$5,000 per calendar year to a PAC. This limit applies to a PAC (political action committee) that supports Federal candidates. (PACs are neither party committees nor candidate committees. Some PACs are sponsored by corporations and unions--trade, industry and labor PACs. Other PACs, often ideological, do not have a corporate or labor sponsor and are therefore called nonconnected PACs.) PACs use your contributions to make their own contributions to Federal candidates and to fund other election-related activities.
- $10,000 per calendar year to a State or local party committee. A State party committee shares its limits with local party committees in that state unless a local committee's independence can be demonstrated.
- $30,800 per calendar year to a national party committee. This limit applies separately to a party's national committee, House campaign committee and Senate campaign committee.
- $117,000 total biennial limit. This biennial limit places a ceiling on your total contributions.
- $100 in currency (cash) to any political committee. (Anonymous cash contributions may not exceed $50.)

[shitstorm]

So, I wonder which categories the 40K per plate went under.

[IMaDick]

according to the news stories clooney raised all of the money.

and then gave it to obama.

Just one example of the headlines, if you want more look them up yourself.

George Clooney Rasies $15 Million Dollars For President Obama ...

[username]

Government is totally corrupt and both sides are influenced by money, special interest groups and their party base.

We're fucked until we take all 3 of those out of the equation and elect people who are actually independent thinkers and are unbeholden to special interest groups and hostage to their party base.

But the mass sheeple won't vote for those candidates because they are told, and believe, "He can't win". Now, who does your above description fit that you have been told can't win? Who has been both maligned and ignored by the mainstream media and the entrenched party establishment? What politician - the ONLY politician - refuses to meet with lobbyists or take their money?

Duh. Ron Paul.

I like him but he's not exactly middle of the road. He wants to deregulate and slash federal regulations to a point that makes me uncomfortable.

[HairOfTheDog]

So, I wonder which categories the 40K per plate went under.

I looked for a breakdown; didn't find one. I'm guessing $2,500 for Federal campaign, $5,000 to a PAC associated with the event, $30,800 to the National Democratic Party. The remainder of the $40k couldn't be applied to a State election, so I wonder if it can be credited from the individual's 2013 bucket under the biennial max or if it was used to cover cost of the event rather than ending up in Obama's re-election account. Just speculating here.

[Duchess]

Dick, I'm sorry that you find these types of things so deeply concerning. I say that sincerely.

[HairOfTheDog]

according to the news stories clooney raised all of the money.

and then gave it to obama.

Just one example of the headlines, if you want more look them up yourself.

George Clooney Rasies $15 Million Dollars For President Obama ...

This would only bother me if it said that George Clooney had donated $15 million. Even then, it wouldn't bother me once I read that he hosted the fundraiser, rather than donated the funds illegally as an individual.