Do you ever blame the victim...

[HairOfTheDog]

I don't care if she's 16 or 40, the prom queen or a worn-out hooker. If someone makes him/herself an easier target by not being in full control of their faculties or choosing a higher risk lifestyle, it's not surprising to me when that someone is violated by a predator. But, it makes no difference at all as to whether I consider that person a victim and the violent criminally-minded asshole who chose to exploit and prey on another person's vulnerability fully to blame.

You feel worse for the person that was raped while sober than the person that was raped while drunk, but in the end a rapist is still a rapist.

I feel equally bad for a drunk or sober rape victim. A rapist is still a rapist, whether they pick the easiest available targets or anyone else.

I agree rape is rape but earlier you seemed to agree with me that people hold some small accountability when they get wasted out of their minds.

Yeah, I know that you're not suggesting that any rape is justified.

I do agree that people are accountable for the act of getting wasted out of their minds itself. Unfortunately, in choosing such foolish behavior in some environments people can make themselves the easiest targets for predators.

But, I don't agree that someone who is drunk or high or known to be sexually promiscuous or acting foolishly in some manner is accountable or to blame in any way for the actions of the criminals that prey upon them. That's all on the criminals who commit the crimes, just like it is when criminals prey upon sober people who haven't let their guards down, in my opinion.

Maybe that wasn't clear in my initial post.