Do you ever blame the victim...

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If a man is piss-drunk...

See, I would blame him a tiny bit for that part. I just think you're not supposed to drink alcohol (or use any other drugs) to that extent. Not to say I haven't done it many, many times but if you drink yourself to the point where you've lost all sense of judgment or even the ability to say no, that's a problem.

The perpetrators of the crime are still guilty of the crime. No question. I just think that people are responsible for themselves and their alcohol consumption.

Put another way, if I were that girl and in fact no date rape drugs were involved, I would be thinking REALLY hard about the wisdom of having drank so much that night.