07-30-2018, 10:08 AM
I agree about the polarization FryGuy. It was underway before Trump’s candidacy and he didn’t create it. However, he did help proliferate it with his intense ‘birther’ campaign and used polarizing rhetoric to win the Presidency.
Anyway, I hope you are right that Trump ultimately achieves some positive outcomes for our country. North Korea has made the same kinds of promises to former presidents and returned hostages after scaling down their nuclear threats for a period. If the Trump Administration actually succeeds in getting Kim to sign a formal agreement to destroy and stop producing most of its arsenal and allow inspections (the latter of which the Obama administration achieved with Iran before Trump destroyed it), Trump will definitely deserve credit.
I don’t agree that Obama achieved virtually nothing. He inherited wars, a terrible recession, and a promise to obstruct everything he attempted by the far right Republicans. Still, he managed to get the country out of the recession with positive tending jobs and economic numbers for several years before leaving office. He also deported more iillegal immigrants (focusing on criminals) than any President before him. He oversaw putting the brakes on Iran’s nuclear capabilities with verification, he cleared the way for gay people to marry, and he respected the separation of church and state. Obama did not move the country more towards non-secularism as I see Trump doing in order to court the religious right.
The far right hated Obama and the far left wasn’t fond of him either. But I think a lot of people in the middle recognize and appreciate his successes while also acknowledging his failures. I don’t know if Trump will be looked on favorably in history, but I think Obama will.
Anyway, I hope you are right that Trump ultimately achieves some positive outcomes for our country. North Korea has made the same kinds of promises to former presidents and returned hostages after scaling down their nuclear threats for a period. If the Trump Administration actually succeeds in getting Kim to sign a formal agreement to destroy and stop producing most of its arsenal and allow inspections (the latter of which the Obama administration achieved with Iran before Trump destroyed it), Trump will definitely deserve credit.
I don’t agree that Obama achieved virtually nothing. He inherited wars, a terrible recession, and a promise to obstruct everything he attempted by the far right Republicans. Still, he managed to get the country out of the recession with positive tending jobs and economic numbers for several years before leaving office. He also deported more iillegal immigrants (focusing on criminals) than any President before him. He oversaw putting the brakes on Iran’s nuclear capabilities with verification, he cleared the way for gay people to marry, and he respected the separation of church and state. Obama did not move the country more towards non-secularism as I see Trump doing in order to court the religious right.
The far right hated Obama and the far left wasn’t fond of him either. But I think a lot of people in the middle recognize and appreciate his successes while also acknowledging his failures. I don’t know if Trump will be looked on favorably in history, but I think Obama will.