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THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY
The white straight male is soooooo victimized. I feeel sooooooo bad for him. Oh my God. Life is sooo tough for them now. Everybody else has it easier.
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(10-30-2021, 08:27 PM)MirahM Wrote: The white straight male is soooooo victimized. I feeel sooooooo bad for him. Oh my God. Life is sooo tough for them now.  Everybody else has it easier.

Sounds like you support "anti-racism", which looks an awful lot like reverse racism.

Who benefits from playing people off against each other? Wouldn't it be more positive if we framed social justice as something that benefits everyone, rather than only those who are officially designated as being disadvantaged?
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I totally hear what you are saying.

So anti-racism is actually revers-racism. Got it.

Also what I hear you saying is that everyone SHOULD benefit out of life, or have the same benefits or opportunities as anyone else, or consequences for that matter.

It is not about being against each other or one another.
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(10-31-2021, 12:53 AM)MirahM Wrote: I totally hear what you are saying.

So anti-racism is actually revers-racism. Got it.

Also what I hear you saying is that everyone SHOULD benefit out of life, or have the same benefits or opportunities as anyone else, or consequences for that matter.

It is not about being against each other or one another.

I think it's reverse racism, but I also think that blacks have a lot of legitimate grievances. I don't think "equality" is a feasible goal because it's antithetical to diversity (we should have a discussion about what "diversity" means, sometime), but I do think social justice is worth pursuing if it's predicated on fairness, and I suspect most of us could agree that a world in which a few people have control over how wealth is distributed is completely unfair, and undemocratic. Extreme economic disparity is unbalanced, and is indicative of an economics that is morally bankrupt.

It would be great if we could all disengage from the dichotomies that infest commercial media, because I don't think we're anywhere near as different as we've been led to believe. I think of it in terms of psychological hygiene, but whereas the corporate state wants to protect our minds by way of censorship, I prefer to do it by exercising discretion. And think about this: if the masses can't be trusted to exercise discretion with respect to information, how is that not a scathing indictment of our education system?
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(10-30-2021, 10:20 PM)rothschild Wrote:
(10-30-2021, 08:27 PM)MirahM Wrote: The white straight male is soooooo victimized. I feeel sooooooo bad for him. Oh my God. Life is sooo tough for them now.  Everybody else has it easier.

Sounds like you support "anti-racism", which looks an awful lot like reverse racism.

Who benefits from playing people off against each other? Wouldn't it be more positive if we framed social justice as something that benefits everyone, rather than only those who are officially designated as being disadvantaged?
I reverse the reverse racism. UNO! I win!
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(10-31-2021, 01:37 AM)rothschild Wrote:
(10-31-2021, 12:53 AM)MirahM Wrote: I totally hear what you are saying.

So anti-racism is actually revers-racism. Got it.

Also what I hear you saying is that everyone SHOULD benefit out of life, or have the same benefits or opportunities as anyone else, or consequences for that matter.

It is not about being against each other or one another.

I think it's reverse racism, but I also think that blacks have a lot of legitimate grievances. I don't think "equality" is a feasible goal because it's antithetical to diversity (we should have a discussion about what "diversity" means, sometime), but I do think social justice is worth pursuing if it's predicated on fairness, and I suspect most of us could agree that a world in which a few people have control over how wealth is distributed is completely unfair, and undemocratic. Extreme economic disparity is unbalanced, and is indicative of an economics that is morally bankrupt.

It would be great if we could all disengage from the dichotomies that infest commercial media, because I don't think we're anywhere near as different as we've been led to believe. I think of it in terms of psychological hygiene, but whereas the corporate state wants to protect our minds by way of censorship, I prefer to do it by exercising discretion. And think about this: if the masses can't be trusted to exercise discretion with respect to information, how is that not a scathing indictment of our education system?

Well put.

I will say that I do not get my information on racism from the daily news or media in that sort. 

There is a problem with the education system and there is a problem when people think we are suddenly wanting to "change" it. Problem is-it was changed in the begninning and wasn't accurate then. It is not wrong to look at history from a different perspective and see if the lense in which it was previously viewed through was skewed.
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Do y'all think racism is something that is learned at home?
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For me it was when I was singled out for harassment because of my race.
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(11-01-2021, 10:40 AM)Duchess Wrote: Do y'all think racism is something that is learned at home?

Absolutely!

Both my folks were old timer racists. So of course I was raised as a racist!
I didn't like black folks, Jewish folks, Muslim folks, actually all folks that were not White, and or Christians.

However, as I got older and became an adult, I began to form my own opinions,
and saw people as people. And I stopped judging them by the color of their skin, or their religion, or even by the job they had.

It took me several years to truly overcome being a racist. Today, I try to evaluate (Judge to some) people for who they are inside, (character they possess) and how people conduct themselves, and how they treat others.
Not by skin color, or religion. I have friends, of color, and of all religions.

However,









I may still be a racist, as there are many White Christians I really really don't like! hah
Carsman: Loves Living Large
Home is where you're treated the best, but complain the most!
Life is short, make the most of it, get outta here!

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(11-01-2021, 04:27 PM)BigMark Wrote: For me it was when I was singled out for harassment because of my race.

Me too. You will be lucky not to get the fuck beat out of you if you go into the projects here as a white person. Honestly black folks are safer in white neighborhoods than white folks in black neighborhoods. That's not to say white people aren't racist, but so are black people. I personally just hate everyone in general.
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(11-01-2021, 10:40 AM)Duchess Wrote: Do y'all think racism is something that is learned at home?

Why does government remain invested in tracking racial data, while at the same time it does nothing to counter the extreme economic disparity that makes it almost impossible for most in this world to make ends meet?

Why is the corporate media invested in racializing everything, while at the same time it blatantly ignores the fact that black women are literally dropping like flies in cities all over America, and refuses to acknowledge who it is that's killing them?
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way to answer the question.

At least Cars, Sally and Mark can answer it.

I think it is definitely learned.
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(11-01-2021, 08:57 PM)MirahM Wrote: way to answer the question.

At least Cars, Sally and Mark can answer it.

I think it is definitely learned.

Yes by Blacks and Whites. Nobody has the market on Racism. I never realized it until the Black guys in the Navy fucked with me because I was white. They were from Chicago and I had a tough time rationalizing it. I always was taught that everyone was equal until then. It was devastating and the emotional scar's are deep. 

I still curl up into a ball and suck my thumb late at night alone thinking about it. But money might smooth things over. Just maybe this week.
He ain't heavy, he's my brother.
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(11-01-2021, 08:57 PM)MirahM Wrote: way to answer the question.

At least Cars, Sally and Mark can answer it.

I think it is definitely learned.

Tribalism perceives everything different to be a threat. So who's promoting tribalism/identity politics?

If you're asking for simple answers to complex problems, maybe you don't understand what the problem really is. This is why mass media has so much power, because they control how these issues are framed. Another example are polls that force you to choose an answer you probably don't really agree with, because they frame it in a way that disallows you from expressing what you really think/feel.
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(11-01-2021, 09:09 PM)Maggot Wrote:
(11-01-2021, 08:57 PM)MirahM Wrote: way to answer the question.

At least Cars, Sally and Mark can answer it.

I think it is definitely learned.

Yes by Blacks and Whites. Nobody has the market on Racism. I never realized it until the Black guys in the Navy fucked with me because I was white. They were from Chicago and I had a tough time rationalizing it. I always was taught that everyone was equal until then. It was devastating and the emotional scar's are deep. 

I still curl up into a ball and suck my thumb late at night alone thinking about it. But money might smooth things over. Just maybe this week.

The ADL and SPLC having been stirring up racial shit for decades, which is pretty ironic considering Jews owned most of the slave ships.
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(11-01-2021, 08:57 PM)MirahM Wrote: way to answer the question.

At least Cars, Sally and Mark can answer it.

I think it is definitely learned.

Here's another question to ponder: is welfare racist?

I don't mean racist against whites, I'm asking what the net effect of welfare has been on the lower income family structure. Has it helped, or did it increase dysfunctionality and lead to the drug/gang violence that is epidemic in poor communities?
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(11-01-2021, 10:55 PM)rothschild Wrote:
(11-01-2021, 08:57 PM)MirahM Wrote: way to answer the question.

At least Cars, Sally and Mark can answer it.

I think it is definitely learned.

Here's another question to ponder: is welfare racist?

I don't mean racist against whites, I'm asking what the net effect of welfare has been on the lower income family structure. Has it helped, or did it increase dysfunctionality and lead to the drug/gang violence that is epidemic in poor communities?

Initially, welfare was a good idea to help low income families to help make ends meet. Back then, people had pride, and wanted to stand on their own two feet, so they got off welfare as soon as they were able to.
However, over the years, it seems that people who were raised on welfare,
grew up seeing that people didn't have to go to work at low paying jobs, and could just receive welfare instead. So yes, those raised on welfare, stayed on welfare, and in those cases with plenty of idle time on their hands, it could/did lead to drug/gang violence.
IMO.
Carsman: Loves Living Large
Home is where you're treated the best, but complain the most!
Life is short, make the most of it, get outta here!

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(11-02-2021, 12:23 PM)Carsman Wrote:
(11-01-2021, 10:55 PM)rothschild Wrote:
(11-01-2021, 08:57 PM)MirahM Wrote: way to answer the question.

At least Cars, Sally and Mark can answer it.

I think it is definitely learned.

Here's another question to ponder: is welfare racist?

I don't mean racist against whites, I'm asking what the net effect of welfare has been on the lower income family structure. Has it helped, or did it increase dysfunctionality and lead to the drug/gang violence that is epidemic in poor communities?

Initially, welfare was a good idea to help low income families to help make ends meet. Back then, people had pride, and wanted to stand on their own two feet, so they got off welfare as soon as they were able to.
However, over the years, it seems that people who were raised on welfare,
grew up seeing that people didn't have to go to work at low paying jobs, and could just receive welfare instead. So yes, those raised on welfare, stayed on welfare, and in those cases with plenty of idle time on their hands, it could/did lead to drug/gang violence.
IMO.

The driving impetus behind the creation of the welfare society was blacks gaining the right to vote, not egalitarianism. It can clearly be seen by how welfare was designed and implemented that it's purpose was to control and promote state dependency, not lift people out of poverty. The Democrats were the party that had supported slavery, not the Republicans. Johnson was as racist as they came in Texas, and was no friend of MLK. Welfare was the new plantation, where blacks would be left to wither and die culturally, trapped in intergenerational poverty because welfare did nothing to promote entrepreneurialism, which is absolutely essential to attaining economic independence. Instead, it promoted single-parent families, which has had devastating consequences with respect to literacy and access to socio-economic opportunities, and incarceration, and it helped to kill off the civil rights movement, which fell into corruption just like the unions did.

If you watch this video on John Calhoun's mouse experiments, you'll see that there's a striking degree of correlation with how welfare was set up, and it's consequences, which he referred to as a behavioral sink. I would argue that this constitutes systemic racism, perpetrated by the very people who have now positioned themselves as their saviors, which is both sad and disgusting, IMO.


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I was looking for a different show when I found this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TOP6D-Jntg


I bet y'all aren't brave enough to watch it-even to just see how much of it could be true!

And by y'all, you know who you are.

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What this guy says makes a lot of sense
Anthony Scaramucci
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