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Fry Guy · 01-26-2019, 12:54 AM

When the border wall is finished, will this tweet hold any meaning?

**MirahM** · 01-26-2019, 01:48 AM

OMG The tattoo is real?!

**BigMark** · 01-26-2019, 02:33 AM

stone er

**MirahM** · 01-26-2019, 02:43 AM

No U

**Duchess** · 01-26-2019, 05:59 AM

I'm with God. Some of you can go fuck yourselves forever. hah

I love that. Go, God!

Fry Guy · 01-26-2019, 06:15 AM

Trump will end up getting $7 billion for the wall by declaring a national emergency and give no concessions. Many of her fellow Democrats will be pissed off that he will get more than what he was asking for the concessions he put out as a trade off for the $5 billion dollars.

The obvious rationale is that she doesn't give a shit about either border security nor the status of illegals in America to whom she could have negotiated concessions for.

Some unbelivably honestly think its a win for Pelosi
Imagine the cognitive dissonance needed for that (i know you don't Duchess, you just hate Trump)

**Duchess** · 01-26-2019, 06:43 AM

**Duchess** · 01-26-2019, 06:45 AM

He's not getting his fuckin' wall. Y'all can moan until pigs fly, it ain't happening, not now, not ever.

Fry Guy · 01-26-2019, 08:10 AM

I am not moaning and he IS getting his wall.
It doesn't hurt me that this is happening. It will not bother me if in 3 weeks time he will start the process to make this a National Emergency for $7 billion. I do not care that the Democrats or associated groups will tie this up in courts or that it will lose in one of the circuit courts or that it will eventually win (within the next couple of years) in the Supreme Court as it is stacked with Constitutionalists and it is Constitutionally sound.

**Duchess** · 01-26-2019, 09:25 AM

(01-26-2019, 08:10 AM)Fry Guy Wrote: he IS getting his wall.

How is he getting the money for the wall? Where is it coming from and who is going to approve it?

**BigMark** · 01-26-2019, 01:04 PM

The wall is being built as we bicker, Obama's wall, the good one not the evil racist Trump wall.

**Duchess** · 01-26-2019, 01:17 PM

Well then what are people complaining about? hah

**Maggot** · 01-26-2019, 01:42 PM

(01-26-2019, 01:17 PM)Duchess Wrote: Well then what are people complaining about?

I believe because Trump won the election. The smear campaign started before he was sworn in. Mueller likes to leak things on occasion to certain people and his fear is that the leaks will corrupt his investigation, there has been a few examples of it and I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet.

The fuel for the fire is the media and the material burning is the Trump hatred on the left. it grows every day. Maybe if Trump didn't wipe their noses in the shit pile through twitter things might be different but calling out the left for their Racist bigotry and violent nature for anything they don't like only provoked the insane asylum and stirred up the flies. Reality is not in the lefts vocabulary and they are like dogs chasing squirrels or the first shiny thing they see.

It's like watching a marathon 3 stooges show.

**Duchess** · 01-26-2019, 02:15 PM

(01-26-2019, 01:42 PM)Maggot Wrote: I believe because Trump won the election. The smear campaign started before he was sworn in. Mueller likes to leak things on occasion to certain people and his fear is that the leaks will corrupt his investigation, there has been a few examples of it and I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet.

The fuel for the fire is the media and the material burning is the Trump hatred on the left. it grows every day. Maybe if Trump didn't wipe their noses in the shit pile through twitter things might be different but calling out the left for their Racist bigotry and violent nature for anything they don't like only provoked the insane asylum and stirred up the flies. Reality is not in the lefts vocabulary and they are like dogs chasing squirrels or the first shiny thing they see.

It's like watching a marathon 3 stooges show.

Uh...I thought it was about the wall and all the illegals pouring in, hundreds and hundreds everyday. So the government was shutdown for 5 weeks for a wall that's already in the process of being built?

Special Counsel Mueller's office doesn't leak but I can see why you would believe that given all the other lies that you believe. In your opinion, what has been leaked? I'm interested in seeing exactly what it is. You support what is basically a criminal enterprise, liars & grifters, there isn't a soul associated with this administration who has an ounce of dignity nor integrity.

**Maggot** · 01-26-2019, 03:50 PM

I kinda believe buzzfeed may have seen or was shown something and could not contain what was shown so Mueller denied it was true to prevent a leak investigation. It doesn't surprise me in any way as the investigation has been completely one sided. To be a complete investigation they would need to start at the very beginning and that has not happened. FICA warrants are part of it and so is the phony dossier, Also the Strzok text messages were swept under the rug as nothing to see here move along. Instead Mueller has moved on to fringe crimes and the original concept of "Russian collusion" has been lost. Stone lied that is his crime and I have no idea why he did because asking wikileaks for dirt on Hillary is not a crime.

**Rootilda** · 01-26-2019, 05:30 PM

(01-26-2019, 09:25 AM)Duchess Wrote: How is he getting the money for the wall? Where is it coming from and who is going to approve it?

Trump has mentioned that he wants the disaster relief funds for California fires (because fuck them, those dirty dems. Why didn't they rake?)
and hurricane damage in Puerto Rico (because fuck them, they're not real Americans) put toward his wall. I think he also plans to try getting the military to build it. Lots of problems with both of those schemes and after his extreme case of erectile dysfunction yesterday, I imagine his political cronies have lost faith in his alleged master deal making.

**Duchess** · 01-26-2019, 06:12 PM

(01-26-2019, 03:50 PM)Maggot Wrote: I kinda believe buzzfeed may have seen or was shown something and could not contain what was shown so Mueller denied it was true to prevent a leak investigation. It doesn't surprise me in any way as the investigation has been completely one sided. To be a complete investigation they would need to start at the very beginning and that has not happened. FICA warrants are part of it and so is the phony dossier, Also the Strzok text messages were swept under the rug as nothing to see here move along. Instead Mueller has moved on to fringe crimes and the original concept of "Russian collusion" has been lost. Stone lied that is his crime and I have no idea why he did because asking wikileaks for dirt on Hillary is not a crime.

Are you aware that is was Buzzfeed that first published the dossier? You thought they were a rag and wouldn't know the truth if it bit them on the ass but now you view them as credible enough to believe what they publish?

There is information out there that addresses the text messages. It's not what you think it is at all. Nothing was swept under the rug. Google it, you'll be able to read everything I did and you'll understand why I don't agree with your take on it.

Every single person associated with this administration who met with the Russians, lied about it. Every one. There is nothing wrong with talking to them so why have they all lied?

**Rootilda** · 01-26-2019, 07:53 PM

Funny you should say that, Maddow reviews all the Russian related lies by the Trump admin and how strange it is that so many Trump staff decided to lie when the truth was perfectly acceptable and non-scandalous.

This is kind of long but if you haven't seen it, she makes a lot of good points.

Fry Guy · 01-26-2019, 08:27 PM

(01-26-2019, 09:25 AM)Duchess Wrote:
(01-26-2019, 08:10 AM)Fry Guy Wrote: he IS getting his wall.

How is he getting the money for the wall? Where is it coming from and who is going to approve it?

You know the answer to this because even if you did not pay attention to both sides of the media, I have told you this several times and in turn you have chosen to post snark and condescension back. It is not that it bothers me but it is not outside your knowledge.

He asked for $5 billion for the wall from Congress. If you remember that bit, do you remember that he also has the Presidential authority in the Constitution to use funds designated for National Security without approval?

This is what he is prepared to sign. Pelosi said she would not negotiate with him for border funding whilst he has the government shutdown. He has decided to allow Pelosi and crew 3 weeks to come up with a plan that negotiates something from both sides. Maybe some DACA and TPS for $5 billion wall.

Pelosi will stick to her guns and he will use $7+ billion from National Emergency funds that he does not need authorised by anyone but himself and without any DACA or TPS (no strings attached).

Pelosi and the Dems will challenge it and it will be tied up. It will be fast tracked to one of the Circuit Courts and will lose, then it will go to Supreme Court and given the Constitutionality, it will win.

He will get this done before his 2020 re-election and it will be seen as a promise kept.

(01-26-2019, 01:17 PM)Duchess Wrote: Well then what are people complaining about?

It is not complaining, pointing out the misreporting, lies and narrative spin.

(01-26-2019, 02:15 PM)Duchess Wrote:
(01-26-2019, 01:42 PM)Maggot Wrote: I believe because Trump won the election. The smear campaign started before he was sworn in. Mueller likes to leak things on occasion to certain people and his fear is that the leaks will corrupt his investigation, there has been a few examples of it and I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet.

The fuel for the fire is the media and the material burning is the Trump hatred on the left. it grows every day. Maybe if Trump didn't wipe their noses in the shit pile through twitter things might be different but calling out the left for their Racist bigotry and violent nature for anything they don't like only provoked the insane asylum and stirred up the flies. Reality is not in the lefts vocabulary and they are like dogs chasing squirrels or the first shiny thing they see.

It's like watching a marathon 3 stooges show.

Uh...I thought it was about the wall and all the illegals pouring in, hundreds and hundreds everyday. So the government was shutdown for 5 weeks for a wall that's already in the process of being built?

Special Counsel Mueller's office doesn't leak but I can see why you would believe that given all the other lies that you believe. In your opinion, what has been leaked? I'm interested in seeing exactly what it is. You support what is basically a criminal enterprise, liars & grifters, there isn't a soul associated with this administration who has an ounce of dignity nor integrity.

Yup. There was approximately $1 billion approved in last year's budget. It will not build much in the way of new construction and is mainly used towards renovation and repair.

You say that no one in the Trump campaign has any integrity but that is only because you have a bad case of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It is true. You have no rational perspective when it comes to Trump and it is beyond stupid to think that everyone in the campaign is immoral, lacks integrity or is flawed BECAUSE they chose that job or are somehow associated with that man. It is NOT defensible. It is really stupid. Couple that with the fact that you know nothing abiout almost any of them apart from a what you have read in a few publications.

It is entirely possible that there are some bad people amoung them but everyone? The place where I work is a multinational and a lot of what is thrown at my organisation marks it as the worst of the worst. Does that mean that I am tarnished by it or that all my colleagues are horrible people? Of course not. It would be a silly position to take.

(01-26-2019, 06:12 PM)Duchess Wrote:
(01-26-2019, 03:50 PM)Maggot Wrote: I kinda believe buzzfeed may have seen or was shown something and could not contain what was shown so Mueller denied it was true to prevent a leak investigation. It doesn't surprise me in any way as the investigation has been completely one sided. To be a complete investigation they would need to start at the very beginning and that has not happened. FICA warrants are part of it and so is the phony dossier, Also the Strzok text messages were swept under the rug as nothing to see here move along. Instead Mueller has moved on to fringe crimes and the original concept of "Russian collusion" has been lost. Stone lied that is his crime and I have no idea why he did because asking wikileaks for dirt on Hillary is not a crime.

Are you aware that is was Buzzfeed that first published the dossier? You thought they were a rag and wouldn't know the truth if it bit them on the ass but now you view them as credible enough to believe what they publish?

There is information out there that addresses the text messages. It's not what you think it is at all. Nothing was swept under the rug. Google it, you'll be able to read everything I did and you'll understand why I don't agree with your take on it.

Every single person associated with this administration who met with the Russians, lied about it. Every one. There is nothing wrong with talking to them so why have they all lied?

No! Wrong question.

If ALL they did is lie then what underlying crime is being investigated and what is the credibility of THAT investigation. The truth as you know is that none of these lies has ANYTHING to do with Russian interference through the Trump campaign to to help Trump win the election.

If someone says they did not talk to someone from Russia and they did, did they lie? Yes or no?
Okay what if they forgot or were mistaken? Did they lie? Yes or no? What if they did not know the person was Russian (ie shook hands with a a man at at party and remember he had some Slavic-sounding name)? Is that a lie yes or no?

Which of these scenarios is applicable to a perjury trap?

Try a different narrative. This they all lied is weak. What is the underlying crime no the perjury process crime that did not exist UNTIL the investigation and was CREATED after the investigation started? Give me a smoking gun.

(01-26-2019, 07:53 PM)Rootilda Wrote: Funny you should say that, Maddow reviews all the Russian related lies by the Trump admin and how strange it is that so many Trump staff decided to lie when the truth was perfectly acceptable and non-scandalous.

This is kind of long but if you haven't seen it, she makes a lot of good points.

Maddow is a propagandist. A very talented one. There are some terrible ones. Maddow is smart.

Fry Guy · 01-26-2019, 10:08 PM

(01-26-2019, 05:30 PM)Rootilda Wrote:
(01-26-2019, 09:25 AM)Duchess Wrote: How is he getting the money for the wall? Where is it coming from and who is going to approve it?

Trump has mentioned that he wants the disaster relief funds for California fires (because fuck them, those dirty dems. Why didn't they rake?)
and hurricane damage in Puerto Rico (because fuck them, they're not real Americans) put toward his wall. I think he also plans to try getting the military to build it. Lots of problems with both of those schemes and after his extreme case of erectile dysfunction yesterday, I imagine his political cronies have lost faith in his alleged master deal making.

Fucking bullshit. Blatant lie. Why are you lying again Rootilda?

There is $100 billion DOD natural relief funds and he will take $7 billion out of there NOT ANYTHING to do with previously allocated California Fire and Hurricane Relief. Stop lying.

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