RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE IN 2016 US ELECTION & SPIN-OFF INVESTIGATIONS

[Fry Guy]

Corsi is an obvious manspreader, you can tell because he has beady eyes and is male.
Alex Jones is a manteruptor because he gets excited and interupts and is male.
Roger Stone shares and explains his position ....and is male.
So you know, they are all part of the Patriarchy and for that probably need the electric chair.

Am i feeling you here, Hair of the Dog?

As for the Birther conspiracy theory. I have a couple of things to say about that. Being that we knew Obama spent his formative years in Indonesia and his Family is from Kenya, and that he seemed not to have had any early ties to the US. It is highly reasonable to be suspicious. Secondly the theory was first propagated by someone not called Corsi or Trump but someone called Hillary Clinton. There is some questions as to the legitimacy not leastwise family members of Barrack (like Malik) calling it a forgery and stating he was born in Kenya. However, even with all of this, it was stupid for Trump to go off on unproven theories. Really stupid.

Why would Stone be sweating. He has said that he was not in contact with Guccifer and if that is the case then Corsi talking to Mueller means what to him?

It is like when the reporters say to or about Trump "Are you worried X will flip on you?" The question is redundant. Why would he be worried if he said again and again that he did nothing wrong. Because if he did nothing wrong then there is nothing to flip on. So what would he worry or sweat on?

[HairOfTheDog]

Another liar connected to this case got a month in the slammer, George deserves that, at the very least.

Papadopoulos was sentenced to 14 days behind bars, one year probation, and a $9,500 fine.

That's less than the max, but more than the probation-only sentence requested by the defense.

In addition to confirming for prosecutors that Jeff Sessions lied to Congress about no meetings with Russian operatives, today Papodouplos' attorney pointed at President Trump as hindering the investigation.

In asking the court for leniency, Papadopoulos said he made “a terrible mistake, for which I have paid a terrible price, and am deeply ashamed,” and that he was motivated to lie to the FBI try to “create distance between the issue, myself, and the president.”

In hindsight, he said in court, he recognizes that was wrong and “might have harmed the investigation.”

Papadopoulos’s attorney, Thomas M. Breen, went further, saying “the President of the United States hindered this investigation more than George Papadopoulos ever could,” by calling the investigation fake news and a witch hunt.

After an Australian diplomat reported to American counterparts that Papadopoulos had told him over drinks about the “dirt” approach, the FBI opened its investigation, that also was around the time WikiLeaks posted thousands of internal Democratic National Committee emails online.

Full piece:  https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/pub...641f600d2f

[HairOfTheDog]

Follow-up to post #302




Prosecutors have dropped their claim that Russian national Maria Butina, a guns advocate living in Washington, offered to trade sex for access to Republican officials as part of her alleged espionage on behalf of the Russian Federation.

Prosecutors say they misinterpreted some of her texts.

She is still charged with espionage and is requesting to be released from custody.  

There will be a hearing today; prosecutors will argue to keep her in jail because, they contend, she is a flight risk and they won't be able to pursue their case if she gets back to Russia.

Prosecutors also contend that the reaction of the Russian government to her arrest and jailing bolsters their espionage case.  They say that six senior officials have been sent to meet with Butina during her incarceration.  

Story:  https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/feds-bac...d=57708359

[Duchess]

I just got done reading the Red Sparrow trilogy and now I think she's like a couple of characters in the books.

[HairOfTheDog]

I just got done reading the Red Sparrow trilogy and now I think she's like a couple of characters in the books.

It's an intriguing case.  She sure managed to make a lot of contacts with conservative U.S. politicians through her affiliation with the NRA.

I'm very glad that prosecutors admitted their mistake and corrected the record publicly; just the facts jacks.

I do wonder if the error will weaken the prosecutors' case and help Butina's defense attorney facilitate her release pending trial.

[Duchess]

I do wonder if the error will weaken the prosecutors' case and help Butina's defense attorney facilitate her release pending trial.

I wondered about that too, I'd have to understand if it did and that made me feel a little pissy towards the prosecutors for being so dumb. I like to think they're smarter than that.

[HairOfTheDog]

The judge denied Butina's request to be released from jail pending trial.

A federal judge on Monday rejected a defense request to free a Russian woman pending trial on charges she was a foreign agent attempting to infiltrate the National Rifle Association and other American conservative groups , saying she remained a flight risk.

In ordering continued detention for Maria Butina, 29, U.S. District Judge Tanya S. Chutkan also imposed a gag order after slamming prosecutors for their mistaken claim that Butina traded sex for access, and slammed her defense attorney for repeated public statements that the judge said could bias potential jurors.

Butina has pleaded not guilty after being indicted July 17 on charges of conspiracy to act and failing to register as an agent of a foreign government. Her defense said she was merely networking to develop relationships with Americans. She is being held in jail in Alexandria, Va.

Full story:  https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/pub...338a1d417b

[HairOfTheDog]

Convicted Felon Paul Manafort Pleads Guilty to Avoid Second Trial

It's not confirmed yet whether Trump Campaign Chairman Paul Manafort has promised cooperation in the Mueller probe in exchange for a yet-to-be-determined lesser sentence.

Manafort is expected to plead guilty to two of the counts for which he is charged:  

1.  Conspiracy to Defraud the United States
2.  Witness Tampering

More details are expected to be revealed in court later today.

Story:  https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/14/ex-trump...eller.html

[Duchess]

Prosecutor Andrew Weismann says there is a cooperation agreement! Wow! 

[HairOfTheDog]

It's a really interesting development.

Manafort has to give up several of his houses, a life insurance policy, and other valuables he was able to purchase through his illegal activity.

While the charges to which he pleaded guilty today don't pertain directly to Trump campaign activity, some of them occurred during his time with the campaign.

And, as I understand it, Manafort's cooperation requires him to tell everything he knows related to the Trump campaign. If he doesn't cooperate, the deal is off.

His attorney says that he's taking responsibility for his crimes and helping to protect his family's future.

I'm curious to see what sentence is ultimately handed down for the 8 felony convictions in Virginia last month and the two convictions in DC today now that he's cooperating.

[Fry Guy]

https://www.westernjournal.com/dershowit...nst-trump/

[HairOfTheDog]

I think Manafort's cooperation will be key to wrapping up the Russia investigation.


As part of his plea deal, Manafort will forfeit over $30million in ill-gotten assets and properties, including his apartment in the trendy neighborhood of SoHo, his pad at Trump Tower, his brownstone in Carroll Gardens, his sprawling estate on Long Island and his apartment in Chinatown.  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html

Manafort was long known to be working on behalf of Russia before he was welcomed into the Trump campaign.  

He was present at the much lied about Trump Tower meeting with Donny Jr., Jared Kushner, Trump associate Rob Goldstone, Russian singer Emin Agalarov, and Moscow-based attorney Natalia Veselnitskaya.

I bet and hope that his plea deal includes protection for his wife and children (and himself if he cooperates enough to get out of jail soon).

[Fry Guy]

Yup. they should wrap it up quickly as there was never much in it, in the first place.
After that Trump should focus on the other side of the aisle. The Democrats, DNC, Clinton campaign, FBI, DOJ, Obama, and the cronies in the FISA court. What is fair for the goose.

[Duchess]

Yup. they should wrap it up quickly as there was never much in it, in the first place.
After that Trump should focus on the other side of the aisle. The Democrats, DNC, Clinton campaign, FBI, DOJ, Obama, and the cronies in the FISA court. What is fair for the goose.

If there's nothing there in regards to the Russia investigation why has everyone associated with trump lied about their meetings with the Russians?

[Fry Guy]

I guess we have to ask a few serious questions?

What Russians?
When?

Did they lie?

[Duchess]

I guess we have to ask a few serious questions?

What Russians?
When?

Did they lie?

There is a commercial on so I have to do this quickly, my Eagles are more important, one example would be the trump tower meeting. There's a shit ton more, FG, jeezus, google it.

[HairOfTheDog]

If there's nothing there in regards to the Russia investigation why has everyone associated with trump lied about their meetings with the Russians?

I do not believe that Mueller would have agreed to a deal with Manafort unless it was clear that Manafort had valuable information related to the Russian interference.  

And, I do not believe that Manafort would have pleaded guilty to every single charge against him (including those on which the Virginia jury deadlocked) unless he knew that the evidence of conspiracy to be presented against him in DC court was overwhelming.

Roger Stone is also a priority for Mueller, I still believe.  Stone talked about the release of incriminating emails and bragged about having contact with the hacker and the distributor before it was publicly known that Russia had stolen the DNC and Podesta emails.

Manafort, Stone, (and possibly Flynn) are keys to connecting the dots for Mueller's team, in my opinion.

[HairOfTheDog]

This is kind of an interesting side note on one of the ways Manafort was able to pull off his scams and pile up multi millions of dollars without detection for so long.

Manafort stole the identity of 34-year-old Kiev-based hairdresser Yevgeny G. Kaseyev, set up multiple companies in his name, and deposited tens of millions of dollars into those companies’ bank accounts.

Mr. Kaseyev had no idea he was a secret millionaire UNTIL authorities came to his door seeking $30 million in back taxes.

Mr. Manafort, who worked for a decade as a political consultant in Ukraine before becoming chairman of the Trump campaign in 2016, made a deal worth hundreds of thousands of dollars with the shell company under the hairdresser’s name. It was called Neocom Systems Limited, according to a Ukrainian lawmaker.

According to while collar investigators, it's not an uncommon con for criminals like Manafort to steal the identities of everyday citizens or homeless people and then open up accounts in foreign banks to hide/launder the money.

Full piece: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/15/world...afort.html

[BigMark]

In that case Trump needs to be impeached, immediately if not sooner!

[HairOfTheDog]

Nobody said Trump should be impeached over Manafort's identity theft.

It always makes me laugh that fan boys get so sensitive and defensive whenever facts or current events that don't reflect positively on Trump are discussed.

Any leader (in business, politics, civics, etc) is responsible for his/her management hiring decisions. That's a big part of leadership.

While Trump is not responsible for the crimes of others unless he was engaged in the criminal activity, he certainly made some very poor choices when it comes to hiring. He is responsible for surrounding himself with criminals (Manafort, Gates, Cohen, at the very least). "All the best people", he said.

Can you even acknowledge that he picked some real lemons?