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#21
Have you ever got really fucked up and blacked out and did something with some guy that you would never ever ever do sober? Well I have and the next morning you're like what the fuck did I do, Jesus christ I'm never drinking liquor again.
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#22
(11-20-2022, 02:27 PM)MirahM Wrote:  I don't want to be a downer!

You're not! You're expressing yourself and that's a good thing.
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#23
(11-20-2022, 02:42 PM)sally Wrote: Have you ever got really fucked up and blacked out and did something with some guy that you would never ever ever do sober? Well I have and the next morning you're like what the fuck did I do, Jesus christ I'm never drinking liquor again.

Sort of. I was staying at a motel with my brother Ed and a friend, and after having like 5 beers, I ate a CBD gummy with psychedelic properties. I felt great at first but then I felt like I had to simultaneously poop and puke, and was very sleepy. Next thing I know I'm passed out on the motel bathroom floor with my bare ass hanging out for about and a half.
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#24
(11-20-2022, 02:42 PM)sally Wrote: Have you ever got really fucked up and blacked out and did something with some guy that you would never ever ever do sober? Well I have and the next morning you're like what the fuck did I do, Jesus christ I'm never drinking liquor again.

Yes, high
and 
yes sober
Wait let me think about that

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#25
(11-19-2022, 09:45 PM)Carsman Wrote: The Me too movement helped many women get just retaliation for ordeals they were subjected to.

However, can’t help but wonder (during the height of the Me too movement with all the accusations going on) if some men were accused of wrong doings, by women who had a score to settle with the men because they cheated on or 
jilted them. Just saying.  Smiley_emoticons_skeptisch

There was a mini 'me too' movement towards the end of the summer about being raped.  I think it was triggered by the overturn of Roe V Wade.

Anyway,  my step daughter made a bunch of tiktok videos about being raped, starting with losing her virginity at 15, under the bleachers at the high school.   She decided that the 15 year old kid she fucked,  had 'coerced ' her into having sex,  and that any type of coercion is rape. 

She also stated that her now ex husband,  raped her every day while they were married (again by coercing her).

The guy she had sex in the bathroom of her friends house coerced her.   The guy she gave a blow job to in exchange for a beer coerced her.    The list is endless. 

I called her out on her bullshit,  and told her that I hoped every single one of those guys sued her for defamation.    The videos all disappeared that day. 

Personally,  I think that too many women like the attention they get for playing a victim,  and that's why they exaggerate their experience.    Of course,  I'm a cynical old broad with a fucked up attitude,  but at least I don't try to put some guy in jail for smiling at me.  Dramaqueen
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#26
Victim psychology has been normalized.
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#27
Lots of things get normalized.

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#28
(11-23-2022, 06:08 AM)cannongal Wrote:
(11-19-2022, 09:45 PM)Carsman Wrote: The Me too movement helped many women get just retaliation for ordeals they were subjected to.

However, can’t help but wonder (during the height of the Me too movement with all the accusations going on) if some men were accused of wrong doings, by women who had a score to settle with the men because they cheated on or 
jilted them. Just saying.  Smiley_emoticons_skeptisch

There was a mini 'me too' movement towards the end of the summer about being raped.  I think it was triggered by the overturn of Roe V Wade.

Anyway,  my step daughter made a bunch of tiktok videos about being raped, starting with losing her virginity at 15, under the bleachers at the high school.   She decided that the 15 year old kid she fucked,  had 'coerced ' her into having sex,  and that any type of coercion is rape. 

She also stated that her now ex husband,  raped her every day while they were married (again by coercing her).

The guy she had sex in the bathroom of her friends house coerced her.   The guy she gave a blow job to in exchange for a beer coerced her.    The list is endless. 

I called her out on her bullshit,  and told her that I hoped every single one of those guys sued her for defamation.    The videos all disappeared that day. 

Personally,  I think that too many women like the attention they get for playing a victim,  and that's why they exaggerate their experience.    Of course,  I'm a cynical old broad with a fucked up attitude,  but at least I don't try to put some guy in jail for smiling at me.  Dramaqueen

I hear this too. I think there is a point of self-responsibility. I hate the saying, "Guys will be guys" but now I feel like I've learned that is true, only I wish I would have learned that early on. "Guys will be Guys" is not an excuse when guys behave badly, but I think it is a warning to women or girls, teenagers that about behavior that can be typical. (I don't feel like putting any more disclaimers in here)

I had another thought but I have to go do some dinner prep.

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#29
(11-23-2022, 09:58 PM)MirahM Wrote: I hear this too. I think there is a point of self-responsibility. I hate the saying, "Guys will be guys" but now I feel like I've learned that is true, only I wish I would have learned that early on. "Guys will be Guys" is not an excuse when guys behave badly, but I think it is a warning to women or girls, teenagers that about behavior that can be typical. (I don't feel like putting any more disclaimers in here)

I had another thought but I have to go do some dinner prep.

Kinda reminds me of an argument I had with gunner years ago,  probably during the original me too movement.    His argument was that a woman should be able to wear whatever they want without getting harrassed-which, for the most part,  is true. 

However,  my rebuttal is that if you are going to wear a low cut shirt that is 3 sizes too small,  along with the shortest of miniskirts,  then walk into a bar where a bunch of guys are getting their stupid on, you should expect a fair amount of catcalls.  Guys will be guys, and buzzed guys tend to get overly exuberant when tight shirts and short skirts are involved.
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#30
I agree there’s a small percentage of women who make false accusations and is beyond wrong for the guys they are accusing - especially when”tried” only publicly through social media, and it’s also harmful to all other women with legitimate claims.  It’s sickening and some form of mental illness to crave attention like that.

I do think there’s MANY more women who never speak or seek justice in serious and real sex assaults/rapes.

Boys can be boys (without being effing overly aggressive assholes) and we can still wear revealing clothing without expecting rape or assault.
In reality, women have to be smart and have strategies to avoid getting into vulnerable situations- like being with a group of women, or for some reason when with a bf/husband other guys somehow control their impulses, and if alone keep your wits about you and get out if starts feeling too aggressive.
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#31
(11-24-2022, 09:22 AM)GirlBoss Wrote: and we can still wear revealing clothing without expecting rape or assault.

Where did I say women should expect to be raped/assaulted?   hah
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#32
(11-24-2022, 09:33 AM)cannongal Wrote:
(11-24-2022, 09:22 AM)GirlBoss Wrote: and we can still wear revealing clothing without expecting rape or assault.

Where did I say women should expect to be raped/assaulted?   hah

Where did I say you said that.
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#33
don't show copious cleavage then get mad when i look
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#34
(11-23-2022, 09:54 PM)MirahM Wrote: Lots of things get normalized.

Deflection has been normalized.
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#35
(11-24-2022, 10:08 AM)BigMark Wrote: don't show copious cleavage then get mad when i look

I wonder if they get mad when I look. I'm not thinking anything sexual, but how do you not look when their knockers are getting ready to pop out of their top. I guess it's like when a midget walks into a room and you have to tell yourself not to look so they don't think you're staring and being rude.
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#36
I got cat called as a 14 yr old wearing an over sized shirt and sweats by 2 creeps in a grocery store. It doesnt matter what one wears.

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#37
Twilla looked at my moose knuckle.
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#38
(11-24-2022, 10:08 AM)BigMark Wrote: don't show copious cleavage then get mad when i look

Yeah,don't get mad........get really,really mad and then spank me real hard, mommy! Ooh yeah!
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#39
(11-24-2022, 10:48 AM)rothschild Wrote:
(11-23-2022, 09:54 PM)MirahM Wrote: Lots of things get normalized.

Deflection has been normalized.

By Trump.
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