11-23-2009, 12:13 PM
what are your plans for the day?
I HOPE YOU ALL HAVE A GOOD ONE and Maggot eats until he pukes.::vomit:: ::lol::
I HOPE YOU ALL HAVE A GOOD ONE and Maggot eats until he pukes.::vomit:: ::lol::
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Thanksgiving
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11-23-2009, 12:44 PM
Ah yes Thanksgiving, the day when you remember how the red man's generosity saved the lily white asses of the pilgrims, a generosity that was repaid with genocide and near extinction.
We need to punish the French, ignore the Germans and forgive the Russians - Condoleezza Rice.
11-23-2009, 01:20 PM
As if the UK has no blood on their hands?
You never participated in the slave trade nor did you own slaves right? All those British ruled Caribbean islands slaves were all the American's fault? The UK never had a program to breed the black out of the Aboriginal people of Australia, did they? The UK didn't just 'remember' the 40 years since the cessation of taking children from indigent families and placing them in other countries, often to be used as child labor? Glass houses OP - careful where you throw those stones. 
11-23-2009, 01:48 PM
(11-23-2009, 12:44 PM)Ordinary Peephole Wrote: Ah yes Thanksgiving, the day when you remember how the red man's generosity saved the lily white asses of the pilgrims, a generosity that was repaid with genocide and near extinction. i wouldn't argue that...the Pilgrims were English i think. ::lol:: it's funny, i live in Pilgrim central, Thanksgiving is a big deal here and we even have a Pilgrim village (Plimoth Plantation) with reenactors, authentic Wampanoag Indians included. schoolchildren get indoctrinated here. but i have to admit it's a charming legend. 
11-23-2009, 02:20 PM
Do the injuns paint red splotches all over their face and bodies? It wouldn't be a correct reenactment without 'em...heh
Fug duh kund
11-23-2009, 04:23 PM
We have never as a country invaded another land and more or less wiped out the indigenous people no.
That is something only Americans, mongols and Nazi Germans have any direct experience of. The whole thanksgiving celebration is a farce, full of revisionist history and creative story telling, I wonder how many "real" Americans "celebrate" thanksgiving?, not many I will wager. My country has done many questionable and horrible things in its past, we don't still celebrate these things however to this day like you do.
We need to punish the French, ignore the Germans and forgive the Russians - Condoleezza Rice.
11-23-2009, 04:26 PM
it's true that some of the local Indians (Wampanoag) protest the holiday here.
11-23-2009, 04:34 PM
Statue of Massasoit on Coles Hill, the Wampanoag Indian chief who allied himself with the Pilgrims and aided the survivors by teaching them the growing and use of native corn.
11-23-2009, 04:39 PM
I was just winding people up, I knew I would catch the fish I was looking for, the razor toothed antagonist.
If I was in America I would celebrate Thanksgiving, mainly for the yummy food, but I would feel slightly perturbed about what Native Americans must think of it. It is more or less a big fuck you celebrated by millions. It is very selective in the time period it celebrates, like German people celebrating the annexing of Austria in 1938 now, it is a case of "and that lead to what?", "nothing, nothing!, lets concentrate on 1938!"
We need to punish the French, ignore the Germans and forgive the Russians - Condoleezza Rice.
11-23-2009, 04:39 PM
Anyone here ever watched the movie "Black Robe"? Probably the most authentic portrayal of the indians methinks...
Fug duh kund
11-23-2009, 04:46 PM
(11-23-2009, 04:39 PM)Luke Warmwater Wrote: Anyone here ever watched the movie "Black Robe"? Probably the most authentic portrayal of the indians methinks... That was one sweet fucking film, better than Last of the Mohicans in my humble opinion. Just shows what tough fucking hombres some of those Indian tribes were, brutal as hell as well.
We need to punish the French, ignore the Germans and forgive the Russians - Condoleezza Rice.
11-23-2009, 04:46 PM
(11-23-2009, 04:39 PM)Luke Warmwater Wrote: Anyone here ever watched the movie "Black Robe"? Probably the most authentic portrayal of the indians methinks...no, but i just looked it up, excellent review/synopsis.
11-23-2009, 06:52 PM
I don't know what most American families do... we don't 'celebrate' anything that has to do with pilgrims or indigenous people. For our family, it's simply a time of being grateful for having enough.
We do celebrate with food though! Hellz yeah. 
11-23-2009, 07:05 PM
I'm working, hopefully they will feed us at work, then I'm gonna rush over to one of my sister's house for another meal.
11-23-2009, 07:25 PM
Happy Thanksgiving!
Even in the initial stages of contact between European Christians and Native Indian people the stage was set for ethnocentrism, and the attitude towards the Indians was that of Christian superiority. The Indians were read a proclamation in Spanish which they had no hope of understanding, they had no hope of understanding the death sentence they were being read, and it went something like this: "We ask and require you to acknowledge the church as the ruler and superior of the whole world and the high priest called pope and in his name the king of Spain as lords of this land. If you submit we shall receive you in all love and charity and shall leave you, your wives and children and your lands free without servitude, but if you do not submit we shall powerfully enter into your country and shall make war against you, we shall take you and your wives and your children and shall make slaves of them and we shall take away your goods and shall do you all the harm and damage we can." 2000 years ago we were all tribal. Then came the missionaries with their fucking bible. 1492 began the termination The holocaust of our Indian nations Yeah, with Christian love and a moral authority They killed our medicine men and stole our country I never claimed this shit was poetry It's just the fucking lies of Christianity You will pray to the lord and get down on your knees Here's a cross for your back and the coughing disease Though you helped us survive we will laugh while you bleed Then deny what we did, write our own history We will kidnap your children and cut off their hair Silence their language and outlaw their prayers Beat them blind until they believe In the blood of Jesus Christ our king Christians murdered Indians Columbus murdered children and now we have a holiday Still you want to deny your history Look to the sky for your god to justify As you commit cultural genocide Christians came and the natives they did hang 13 at a time for Jesus and his gang We are the ones you had to dehumanize So your murder and greed could be justified The belly of the church is full With the blood of all those heathen fools Who would not receive the gift of Christ? So we burned them as a sacrifice To our baby killing god above To our mother church and all her love We will steal their gods and subjugate Those who don't believe we'll ahnilate "The Spaniards made bets as to who would slit a man in two or cut of his head with one blow. They tore babies from their mother's breast by their feet and dashed their head against the rocks. They hanged Indians by thirteen in honor and reverence for their redeemer and their twelve apostles. They put wood underneath and with fire burned the Indians alive." Christians murdered Indians We believe in the earth, the sky and dreams The universe and the creator who gave us these The sacred gift of life and human beings That makes you perpetrate the hate to ahnilate So here I am the savage civilized Voice of the dead and my ancestor's cries And like the ghosts of this land you can't erase I see blood on the hands of the master race. 500 years of manifest destiny 500 years of resistance to the enemy You have faith in the rivers, the mountains, the trees We've a murdering god to replace all of these With the blood of forgiveness you too can be free Or the wrath of Jehovah you're sure to receive We will baptize you with the blood of the lamb With the sword and the gospel we will conquer your land You will join our church and be glad to be saved Or we'll slaughter your children and your women we'll rape. Christians murdered Indians I see blood on the hands of the master race. 
11-23-2009, 07:39 PM
I'm gonna go murder a turkey, a fucking white turkey and eat his slowly roasted and basted, yummy flesh, because I am a barbaric, murdering, American. Then I'm gonna eat some pie and fall asleep in a chair.
11-23-2009, 07:53 PM
I'll be cooking a feast, but it's just to celebrate the season, eat, drink, and have the family over. Same as Christmas and Easter which belongs to the pagans anyway.
11-23-2009, 07:55 PM
I might murder a turkey and a ham on Christmas.
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