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(04-20-2012, 05:59 PM)Cracker Wrote: I want to hear more about the fig tree, clad.
Really!?! Are you sure?!?
I can tell you more than you ever want to know, I'm sure but I'm not sure I believe any of it myself. This is simply derived from the actual evidence and facts. It is a derivative of what the great pyramid builders said and implied. It is an assumption of how the world would have to be if "everything" the builders spoke of was factual and with the presumption that the knowledge survived in a confused form after the language was mutilated at babel.
In a nutshell the ancients believed that if you ate sycamore figs that grew in the waters of Osiris you would live a greatly extended lifetime as a young adult and that your bones would smell good. This story permeates all through human history and myth. The fig was the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil" because long life told one the difference. It was the "Tree of Life" that grew in the fountain of youth under the philosophers stone that formed when the waters of life degassed. It is spoken of extensively in the "book of Enoch" which was left out pof the Bible apparently because it spoke of Efgypt in a cryptic form and referred to the figs. The only thing worse than the worship of "gods" to the Bible writers was the fig. The fig gets mentioned in the Bible but only in a negative light.
Enoch and the Bible say that when the judgement comes the survivors will live at Giza on figs.
I don't know but if any of this has a basis in reality (remember many ancients believed it), but if it does I believe that it was a substance they knew as MFKZT that caused it. My guess is this substance is a conglomeration of sinmgle atoms of gold and is formed from auric sulphate that got bound into egyptian red sandstone millions of years ago. Over the eons it lost its sulphur through the mechanical action of water migrating through it. The sandstone with its siderite binder and copper sulphate contaminants was dissolved in the carbonic acid which was the source of the fountain of youth. All these chemicals as well as the sand of the sandstone are reported by the Egyptians as coming up in the fountain of youth though they never specifically mention the gold in such terms.
That they knew it was gold is most remarkable and can explain a great deal and a lot of human history. They lacked the tools to determine that it was gold so logically it could only have been observation. Apparently the bones of these people who lived a long time had gold deposits on them. They also seem to suggest that the same thing could happen to scarab beatles (various coleoptera) and other animals.
It seems likely that few plants can fix gold in its fruit in such a way as humans can properly utilize it. They suggested that the most effective was the sycamore fig and grapes (wine) was a distant second. There's a weak implication that caloric intake needs to be suppressed to get the effect and that one should try to limit the diet to only figs and grape wine grown in the Elysian Fields.
There's no longer any mechanism to get any science done. You need to have a degree and then bend everyone's ears for half a career just to get a shovel so you can go dig.
It's starting to make my career choice (ditch digger) look like pure genius. Everyone is beholden to the government who pays them and the good graces of their peers who would chase them out of work if they don't tow the line and kowtow to the paradigm.
What a crazy world. Who'd imagine that a theory that ties everything together isn't even important enough to check the CO2 levels in the water under Giza!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Both the word "chemistry" and "alchemy" probably derive from the city of Chemis just a few miles noth of Giza. I believe the word origin is the result of a person from this city discovering that adding NAtron (a sodium NA compound) to the geyser would force an eruption. This provided more water to grow more figs and lift more stones. Jobs on the pyramid were an honor awarded to people from the same city as those who made important observations. Any job on the pyramid related to chemicals was awarded to a person from Chemmis.
It's believed that alchemists were trying to make gold but there is reason to believe they were actually trying to make monotomic gold or the philosopher's stone. Even Sir Isaac Newton studied the pyramid and was an alchemist. The "holy bible" of alchemy is the "emerald tablets of Hermes" which can be taken as a literal description of building with a geyser and no more and no less.
It's just wierd. How can everything fit together yet no one care? How is it possible that you might have found the answer to every single riddle of the ages but be ignored? Human inertia is the strongest force in nature. You can't make the tide come in or resist it if it does.
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(04-21-2012, 11:32 PM)cladking Wrote: Even Sir Isaac Newton studied the pyramid and was an alchemist. The "holy bible" of alchemy is the "emerald tablets of Hermes" which can be taken as a literal description of building with a geyser and no more and no less.
It gets even wierder. Newton actually learned foreign languages so he could personally translate the emerald tablets. His genius probably let him down though since his translations are the weakest in terms of the apparent meaning.
These "tablets" can be traced back no further than the Caliphate Al Mamuum who... ...get this... ...was the first person to get inside the Great Pyramid!
Everything fits together like the finest Egyptian cotton yet it can't be investigated and neither can the pyramid because everyone is tied up looking for ramps.
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(04-21-2012, 11:06 PM)cladking Wrote: There's no longer any mechanism to get any science done. You need to have a degree and then bend everyone's ears for half a career just to get a shovel so you can go dig.
Great post, clad. Very interesting. Even people who lived hard lives wanted to live longer. I know animals protect their young to preserve the species, but I wonder if they have ths same lust for another day that we do.
The above is true. Many of the really smart people I know don't have degrees. The gov't doesn't fund research if you don't, so only a few people are allowed to know things, especially in low-access areas like protected historical sites.
You should have been born 50 years before you were. Some of the great explorers and archaeologists weren't college folk back then, just people who had a keen interest like you.
"Cladking" is a coin term, correct?
(03-15-2013, 07:12 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: You see Duchess, I have set up a thread to discuss something and this troll is behaving just like Riotgear did.
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(04-22-2012, 08:26 AM)Cracker Wrote: Great post, clad. Very interesting. Even people who lived hard lives wanted to live longer. I know animals protect their young to preserve the species, but I wonder if they have ths same lust for another day that we do.
I think you're misunderstanding a few things here probably caused by all the whining. These people did not have hard lives. This was "Garden of the Lord on the way to Zoar in Egypt". This was the garden in the east of Eden. The fig eaters were healthy for over 850 years on average before relatively sudden aging. But even when their apparent age was 70 they'd be as healthy as a 70 year old could be. The literature is ambiguous about the effects of becoming a fig eater in later life but they apparently believed many of the effects and damage of aging could be reversed providing you get them early enough.
They paved paradise and put up a parking lot. Enoch said that by the time the Giza project was complete only 14 fig trees remained.
These people did not have hard lives. They were not only healthy but they were able to invent and institute ideas and processes that made life easier for everyone but especially themselves.
It's true that many Egyptians in many eras had hard lives but this was less true in the great pyramid building age. Yes, their skeletons show signs of hard work but this was a societal norm and even some of the nobles exhibit this same wear and tear. Most of the people had poor diets and this contributed to their short lives.
Quote:You should have been born 50 years before you were. Some of the great explorers and archaeologists weren't college folk back then, just people who had a keen interest like you.
You misunderstand my whine here as well. I'm not really an Egyptologist and my knowledge of the ancients is severely limited. I haven't put forth the effort to do the work because I rarely put forth so much effort. There are both good and bad reasons for this but it does fit my nature as well. I've merely stumbled onto the answer and have both disproved orthodox "theory" to a level that must be accepted by a "reasonable" man and demonstrated that my own theory is well supported by evidence. I've proposed myriad simple means of testing my theory including one that is so simple it could be done by a child with a few hundred dollars. But there is simply no mechanism in place any longer to test any of these ideas. It might be decades until Egyptologists even know that ramps were debunked back in 2010. In the meantime they'll continue spending money for computer modeling to prove they must have used ramps and digging up everything that doesn't move looking for ramps.
Quote:"Cladking" is a coin term, correct?
I often wonder.
I'm pretty sure that's the way it started.
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It was discovered in 1918 near the temple of Dendera on the west bank of the Nile and acquired by the Egyptian Museum in Cairo – but its significance has only just been realised.
Now researchers believe that a 33-foot sculpture catalogued merely as ‘JE 46278’ actually depicts Alexander Helios and Cleopatra Selene - the twin babies of Mark Antony and Cleopatra VII.
‘It shows two naked children, one male and one female, of identical size standing within the coils of two snakes. Each figure has an arm over the other’s shoulder, while the other hand grasps a serpent.’
‘Unfortunately the faces are not well preserved, but we can see that the boy has curly hair and a braid on the right side of the head, typical of Egyptian children. The girl’s hair is arranged in a way similar to the so-called melonenfrisur (melon coiffure ) an elaborated hairstyle often associated with the Ptolemaic dynasty, and Cleopatra particularly.’
very interesting:
http://news.discovery.com/history/cleopa...20420.html
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You're going to get me interested in the later Egyptians yet, LC.
They are fascinating people with an interesting history but how they came to be is an enigma I want to see solved.
A lot of things about ancient Egypt didn't change and that includes the tendency for children to have shaved heads except a long braid or two. Like many things in their "beliefs" serpents could be deadly or very good aspects. Only Wadjet, Rennenutet, and Nehebkau were "always" good. Set had some serpent like qualities and was both very powerful in the maintenance of order as well as its primary danger.
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HI Clad!
Around 2,900 years ago, an ancient Egyptian man, likely in his 20s, passed away after suffering from a rare, cancerlike disease that may also have left him with a type of diabetes.
When he died he was mummified, following the procedure of the time. The embalmers removed his brain (through the nose it appears), poured resin-like fluid into his head and pelvis, took out some of his organs and inserted four linen “packets” into his body. At some point the mummy was transferred to the 2,300 year-old sarcophagus of a woman named Kareset, an artifact that is now in the Archaeological Museum in Zagreb, Croatia.
The mummy transfer may have been the work of 19th-century antiquity traders keen on selling Kareset's coffin but wanting to have a mummy inside to raise the price.
full report here;
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/04/2...ures#ixzz1tHGGDmfv
Researchers examined a 2,900-year-old mummy using X-rays, CT and magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scans. They found that he suffered from Hand-Schuller-Christian’s disease, a very rare condition that left him with lesions in his skull and spine. A large hole on his frontal-parietal bone can be readily seen in this image. His brain appears to have been removed through his nose during the mummification process.
Curiously the sarcophagus the mummy was put in belonged to that of a woman named Kareset who lived about 2,300 years ago. The tests showed that the mummy is a man and definitely not Kareset. This image shows the mummy's preserved penis on a CT scan.
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clad,
Do you have a dusty peen like that mummy? hahahaha
(03-15-2013, 07:12 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: You see Duchess, I have set up a thread to discuss something and this troll is behaving just like Riotgear did.
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Now I feel badly. That was a little crude. Bad Cracker.
I was telling a guy I work with the other day that my boss can suck my dick and he looked at me and said, "You're such a lady." hahahaha I guess my look doesn't match my mouth.
(03-15-2013, 07:12 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: You see Duchess, I have set up a thread to discuss something and this troll is behaving just like Riotgear did.
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He might like that you were thinking about his penis, honey.
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(04-27-2012, 07:54 PM)Cracker Wrote: Now I feel badly. That was a little crude. Bad Cracker.
I was telling a guy I work with the other day that my boss can suck my dick and he looked at me and said, "You're such a lady." hahahaha I guess my look doesn't match my mouth.
Cracks, sorry but I just can't picture HotD, User, Duchess, LC or any other Mock gals saying 'suck my dick' even in jest.
Where are those neck pics?
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Wouldn't it be something if we found out Cracker was Moose after all this time!
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Never mind. That was a big ass fail. There is hardly anyone here who would remember him.
Carry on...
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(04-27-2012, 08:04 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: (04-27-2012, 07:54 PM)Cracker Wrote: Now I feel badly. That was a little crude. Bad Cracker.
I was telling a guy I work with the other day that my boss can suck my dick and he looked at me and said, "You're such a lady." hahahaha I guess my look doesn't match my mouth.
Cracks, sorry but I just can't picture HotD, User, Duchess, LC or any other Mock gals saying 'suck my dick' even in jest.
Where are those neck pics?
She's a class act huh?
Devil Money Stealing Aunt
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(04-27-2012, 08:04 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: Cracks, sorry but I just can't picture HotD, User, Duchess, LC or any other Mock gals saying 'suck my dick' even in jest.
Yes, they are delicate flowers.
Cracker works blue.
He wasn't shocked. I know him very well, including his family. His wife told me he talks about me at home, tells her all my best lines. Better than being "that retard who can't spell with the fucked up hair" or that "pervy guy down the hall." Black people aren't as uptight as most white people.
(03-15-2013, 07:12 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: You see Duchess, I have set up a thread to discuss something and this troll is behaving just like Riotgear did.
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Suck my dick!
Gotta put that delicate flower shit to rest immediately.
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Hahaha.
I stole that line from Kathy Griffin.
I work in a very polite environment. I have to filter 99% of what I say. People look at me all day long and I have to behave. It helps to have a few people who know me and know I'm usually thinking somethiing completely different than what is coming out of my mouth. I may be nodding my head in agreement, but I'm really thinking, "If you don't back the hell up off me, I'ma beat you like the dude you look like!"
I am the white Madea.
(03-15-2013, 07:12 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: You see Duchess, I have set up a thread to discuss something and this troll is behaving just like Riotgear did.
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In the early days all the mummies laid out with their arms placed like that were kings but, I believe, this practice ended in the middle kingdom.
(04-27-2012, 07:29 PM)Cracker Wrote: clad,
Do you have a dusty peen like that mummy? hahahaha
It would seem this guy's definitely a dude. But then one of my favorite women in the world is nicknamed "brass balls" and anyone can request being buried in, with, or by a pig sticker.
Me? Well, I rarely get personal but let me tell you about my day. I mentioned off hand that I had solved a major piece of the PT and gained a new insight into the way the Egyptians thought that might give me a lot more. (don't worry this really is on-topic ) Remember how objects have both masculine and feminine characteristics so pronouns can change in mid-sentence? A pipe is masculine but if you're talking about the inside then it's feminine and you use "her" instead of "his". Other concepts have the same treatment. The feminine of "height" is depth.
1660b. make this pyramid of N. endure, and this his temple, for ever and ever,
1660c. as the name of Atum, chief of the Great Ennead, endures.
1661a. As the name of Shu, lord of the upper mnś.t in Heliopolis, endures,
1661b. so may the name of N. endure,
1661c. so may this his pyramid endure, and this his temple, likewise, for ever and ever.
1662a. As the name of Tefnut, lady of the lower mnś.t in Heliopolis, is established,
1662b. so may the name of N. be established,
I finally figured out what "mns.t" is. I had thought it was critical to understanding but it's probably minor actually. Well here goes... "Shu" is the God of Upward and Tefnut the Goddess of Downward and were the twins born when Atum created himself through masturbation. "Mns" means "ejaculation" and all words are feminized by adding an ".t". It never occured to me that such a word could be feminized and I only recently learned this specific definition. I believe that "mns.t" is simply "ejaculate trajectory" since the feminine concept for ejaculation would be where it goes.
Of course everyone looked at me like I'm nuts but I'm used to it.
Atum's ka glistens in the sun and is adorned with a rainbow. It's not my fault no one believes what they actually said. It's not my fault that they said it. Nor is it my fault that they removed his ka and put it in a temple and then lifted it to heaven as the capstone for a pyramid.
I might not move very fast but I don't need to be dusted quite yet.
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