(02-05-2011, 03:13 PM)jcat Wrote: but there is only 1 gas station open that late and most ghetto marts close at 11 around here without driving to one

(02-05-2011, 03:15 PM)jcat Wrote: I just dont get the waiting two hours to call that all I was saying NOT NORMAL .

(02-05-2011, 10:13 AM)pinkyfloyd Wrote:

(02-05-2011, 07:03 AM)shitstorm Wrote: Unknown, what's up with that gruesome picture?

ironically enough, that "gruesome" picture is from one of the funniest movies ever made. it's a picture of one of the Hanson brothers from the hockey movie "Slapshot" starring Paul Newman.

-pink

(02-05-2011, 03:21 PM)shitstorm Wrote: Thanks for that, Pink. Context, eh?

(02-05-2011, 03:23 PM)jcat Wrote: we are talking where was tiff getting picked up at she said she went to the store i know where holland is. i am a mile from airport and I -475. she was in south toledo which is 10mins from holland there is very few 24 hours stores in south toled expect like a speedway.

(02-05-2011, 03:33 PM)jcat Wrote: I am torn between the theroy that she is involved and the crazy ex. Cause there is alot of crazy ex's out there.

(02-05-2011, 12:48 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: Tim, you don't have PM ability until i make you a member at some point soon.
but as far as other sites where names are used, i would only suggest googling victims' names. i do not wish to link or promote other sites with different rules than mine. thanks for understanding.


to everyone:
there are people involved in this case that are named all over the place. until LE calls them a person of interest or they have appeared in media, i don't use their names. that's just common decency. especially if they are a juvenile. give your opinions and speculation within certain parameters, it is your First Amendment right.
this is a good place to mention my rules for this forum. this is a good time because MANY people from Ohio have logged on or joined in past few days.
i don't allow vile gossip to be stated as fact. i rely on main stream media, and LE for facts. i also have private contacts and sources i don't mention.
you have complete freedom here with 2 exceptions, no posting any member's personal info, and no threats. also i do not delete posts as i have been asked much after the fact. think about what you are posting. Mock has a no delete policy since it is required that all posters are adults and responsible for what they say. i am not punitive. i am simply covering my cute ass.

(02-05-2011, 03:35 PM)pinkyfloyd Wrote:

(02-05-2011, 03:23 PM)jcat Wrote: we are talking where was tiff getting picked up at she said she went to the store i know where holland is. i am a mile from airport and I -475. she was in south toledo which is 10mins from holland there is very few 24 hours stores in south toled expect like a speedway.

so what is it that would make you think she wasn't referring to a speedway?
-pink

(02-05-2011, 03:50 PM)jcat Wrote: logically thinking its been 5f out around for the last week. you wont of walk there that is all I am saying is that probably drove store. why didnt they just take themselves to the house?

(02-05-2011, 02:46 PM)pinkyfloyd Wrote:

(02-05-2011, 02:44 PM)BlueTiki Wrote: So . . .

Anyone have a guess on the ages, gender and number of the killers?

if my theory holds true, two caucasian, middle-aged males (35-40).

-pink

(02-05-2011, 03:15 PM)jcat Wrote: I just dont get the waiting two hours to call that all I was saying NOT NORMAL .

(02-05-2011, 04:07 PM)Unknown Wrote: Tiffany wasn't the only one that supposed to go over there to hang out with them. She was at Mr.Z house and both of them were supposed to go over there to hang out. I like the fact that jcat says if it walks like a duck, talks likes a duck, its a duck. Well knowing how they are (thug-life) its not like they were going over there to play scrabble. They knew what was supposed to happen there that night and I don't think it was just to hang out and drink a beers between the four of them. Crazy Fact: When the LE arrived the first time they could hear the TV on and could see that the lights in the house were on. On the second call when the LE arrived the TV was off and some of the lights were turned off. So if the killer(s) were in the house why didn't the LE see there car? After hearing the door bell ring from the LE, why would the killers in the end turn off the TV and a few lights? If they parked on a side street I wonder if any neighbors reported to the detectives a car parked around there that night that didn't look familiar.

hi my partners in crime , i've been busy as hell and just caught up. and thanks Tim. i was going to make sure everyone read that post, i am sure i'll cite it again as more people join discussion. Post is on page 11, #149. Please read it members.


first, this is link to video/recording of 911 calls. in case anyone has not heard them. about 15 minutes worth. form your own conclusions---->

http://www.toledoonthemove.com/news/story.aspx?id=576342

and since Tiffany has been named in the media and on the calls (no last name yet, but i am holding a photo of her for now.) i will add my theory to what happened. i have pretty much alluded to what i think, but here it is again. be advised, this is ONLY my Constitutionally-protected opinion based on years of dealing with murderers and homicides. as well as my inner lie detector, which usually does not fail me. in otherwords...my gut, to use a common phrase. being human, i can be way off base.

Tiffany, in rumor and gossip and a purported inside person on the internet, is reputed to be involved with the sale of drugs. the evidence at the scene supports drug use by the victims, scale, baggies, etc.
my main feeling is that she made the call to the mother of Johnny. but that SHE DID NOT HEAR WHAT SHE CLAIMED TO HAVE HEARD. BIG FAT RED HERRING AS I SAID EARLIER. DESIGNED TO DEFLECT AND MISLEAD.
THAT IS MY OPINION AND I COULD BE WRONG. if that is the case, she is involved with the murders in some capacity. we will know when the police finally name suspect(s).
other things concern me and don't add up, but i'm not going to speculate too much until more facts are known.
i also want to note, anyone can come here and claim to be a relative, witness, or peter pan. i do not verify them. i just "listen".
i know for a fact in some instances people who are named and discussed in some of my threads have come here to read. that's OK. i don't mind, i welcome them and their input. some have tried to "fool" me. it hasn't worked.