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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - jash - 02-17-2011

Quote:Her sudden command of the English language was also puzzling to me.

Hmpf!! I questioned immediately about whether it was the real tif or not because of her new found language skills....she said transportation instead of ride or car? And I was rebuked by a fellow member to not step on her toes so soon. *off to pout in a snit*

also, i must not have offended her cuz she answered most of my questions!

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 02-17-2011

Johnny's father:

CRB-08-19341-0101 CLARKE, JOVANNY 07/16/1969 POSSESSION OF DRUGS BENCH WARRANT none
CRB-08-22290-0102 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 DISORD CONDUCT;ENGAGE IN FIGHT/THREATEN amended from DOMESTIC VIOL;CAUSE FAMILY MEMBER TO BELIEVE OFFENDER WILL CAUSE IMMINENT PHYSICAL HARM GUILTY 04/07/2010
CRB-08-22290-0202 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 MENACING DISMISSED 04/07/2010
CRB-98-02747-0101 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE DISMISSED 10/29/1999
CRB-94-16175-0101 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 DRUG ABUSE;CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE POSS/USE DISMISSED 11/05/1999
CRB-92-01103-0101 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 RECEIVING STOLEN PROPERTY/SERVICES DISMISSED 06/03/1992
CRA-91-03888-0101 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 POLICE ORDER;FAIL TO OBEY GUILTY 03/22/1991
CRA-91-08590-0101 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 CARRYING CONCEALED WEAPONS BOUND OVER 05/24/1991
CRB-88-10140-0101 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 PEACE BOND DISMISSED 03/26/1991
CRB-88-10302-0101 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 CRIMINAL TRESPASS DISMISSED 03/26/1991
CRB-88-10763-0102 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 DISORDERLY CONDUCT amended from OBSTRUCTING OFFICIAL BUSINESS GUILTY 03/26/1991
CRB-88-10763-0202 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 CRIMINAL TRESPASS DISMISSED 03/26/1991
TRD-10-07373-0102 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 LICENSE REQUIRED;DRIVING WITHOUT LICENSE DISMISSED 06/03/2010
TRD-10-07373-0202 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 REASONABLE AND ORDINARY CONTROL OF MOTOR VEHICLE;OPERATE WITHOUT EXERCISING DISMISSED 06/03/2010
TRD-08-28115-0103 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 LICENSE REQUIRED;DRIVING WITHOUT LICENSE BENCH WARRANT none
TRD-08-28115-0203 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 RIGHT OF WAY OF PUBLIC SAFETY VEHICLES BENCH WARRANT none
TRD-08-28115-0303 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 FAILURE TO DISPLAY LICENSE PLATES BENCH WARRANT none
TRD-04-21818-0101 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 SPEED:EXCEED ERECTED SIGN LIMIT GUILTY 08/25/2004
TRD-94-26019-0101 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 LOUD AMPLIFICATION SYSTEMS PROHIBITED DISMISSED 07/28/1997
TRD-88-42218-0103 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 LICENSE REQ;DRIVER/CHAUFFEUR GUILTY 03/26/1991
TRD-88-42218-0203 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 ACCIDENT REPORTS amended from STOP AFTER ACCID;COLLIDE/UNATTENDED VEH GUILTY 03/26/1991
TRD-88-42218-0303 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 STARTING AND BACKING VEHICLES DISMISSED 03/26/1991

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - BlueTiki - 02-17-2011

Justa thought . . .

If Tiff returns for another info-fest, you might consider phrasing closed-ended questions and presenting them to her. Don't be greedy, either.

Two questions a pop.

On the other hand, narrative answers to the same question that don't match give hours of speculative fun.

Now . . . if Maytee were to join in, just think REAL hard on what you want to ask. Don't type.

If she's a psychic, the answer will appear . . . magically!

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - 02-17-2011

KIP:your welcome..


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - TotallyCurious - 02-17-2011

For the Newbies, Here is the transcript from the Nancy Grace show in
regards to the murders. It has the call from the father also included.

http://edition.cnn.hu/TRANSCRIPTS/1102/04/ng.01.html

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Sean69 - 02-17-2011

(02-17-2011, 05:22 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote: NO, she wasn't even consistent, on the 911 call she says she called JC right back and texted LS, on the board here she says she waited a hour didn't call them because JC said he would call her in an hour... why wouldn't she mention that to the 911 operator, oh he said he would call me in an hour so I didn't bother checking or calling anyone, NOPE she never says that once, infact she supposedly was worried right away calling him right back and texting LS,how on earth are these 2 statements consistent? You got me??? She is a manipulator. Drug addicts and cons know how to do it the best and playing stupid is probably on of her biggest ruses. Or saying things to certain people. Version #1 I called Johnny right back and texted LS. Or Version#2 Oh I waited an hour cause JC said to wait an hour.They know every trick in the book, at the risk of repeating myself, just ask people who deal with them, parents, lovers, kids, employers, parole officer, doctors that they get to write them prescriptions. I would believe that maybe all that tough nigga/bytch talk on her FB site was just stupid stuff, IF, if it didnt' have the rapsheet and the dead ex to go along with it. She knows way more and even who was involved in this and I agree Sociopaths are charming when they want something that is!!

This is what I've been trying to get across, but only a few people are getting it - and it really is quite serious...



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - LytoMe - 02-17-2011

(02-17-2011, 05:30 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: Johnny's father:

CRB-08-19341-0101 CLARKE, JOVANNY 07/16/1969 POSSESSION OF DRUGS BENCH WARRANT none
CRB-08-22290-0102 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 DISORD CONDUCT;ENGAGE IN FIGHT/THREATEN amended from DOMESTIC VIOL;CAUSE FAMILY MEMBER TO BELIEVE OFFENDER WILL CAUSE IMMINENT PHYSICAL HARM GUILTY 04/07/2010
CRB-08-22290-0202 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 MENACING DISMISSED 04/07/2010
CRB-98-02747-0101 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE DISMISSED 10/29/1999
CRB-94-16175-0101 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 DRUG ABUSE;CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE POSS/USE DISMISSED 11/05/1999
CRB-92-01103-0101 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 RECEIVING STOLEN PROPERTY/SERVICES DISMISSED 06/03/1992
CRA-91-03888-0101 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 POLICE ORDER;FAIL TO OBEY GUILTY 03/22/1991
CRA-91-08590-0101 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 CARRYING CONCEALED WEAPONS BOUND OVER 05/24/1991
CRB-88-10140-0101 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 PEACE BOND DISMISSED 03/26/1991
CRB-88-10302-0101 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 CRIMINAL TRESPASS DISMISSED 03/26/1991
CRB-88-10763-0102 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 DISORDERLY CONDUCT amended from OBSTRUCTING OFFICIAL BUSINESS GUILTY 03/26/1991
CRB-88-10763-0202 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 CRIMINAL TRESPASS DISMISSED 03/26/1991
TRD-10-07373-0102 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 LICENSE REQUIRED;DRIVING WITHOUT LICENSE DISMISSED 06/03/2010
TRD-10-07373-0202 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 REASONABLE AND ORDINARY CONTROL OF MOTOR VEHICLE;OPERATE WITHOUT EXERCISING DISMISSED 06/03/2010
TRD-08-28115-0103 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 LICENSE REQUIRED;DRIVING WITHOUT LICENSE BENCH WARRANT none
TRD-08-28115-0203 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 RIGHT OF WAY OF PUBLIC SAFETY VEHICLES BENCH WARRANT none
TRD-08-28115-0303 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 FAILURE TO DISPLAY LICENSE PLATES BENCH WARRANT none
TRD-04-21818-0101 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 SPEED:EXCEED ERECTED SIGN LIMIT GUILTY 08/25/2004
TRD-94-26019-0101 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 LOUD AMPLIFICATION SYSTEMS PROHIBITED DISMISSED 07/28/1997
TRD-88-42218-0103 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 LICENSE REQ;DRIVER/CHAUFFEUR GUILTY 03/26/1991
TRD-88-42218-0203 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 ACCIDENT REPORTS amended from STOP AFTER ACCID;COLLIDE/UNATTENDED VEH GUILTY 03/26/1991
TRD-88-42218-0303 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 STARTING AND BACKING VEHICLES DISMISSED 03/26/1991

If I am reading the charges correctly, a lot of them are YEARS old. The most recent offenses are for motor vehicle accidents/stops?

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - BlueTiki - 02-17-2011

(02-17-2011, 05:39 PM)LytoMe Wrote: [quote='Lady Cop' pid='129439' dateline='1297978252']
[b]Johnny's father:

CRB-08-19341-0101 CLARKE, JOVANNY 07/16/1969 POSSESSION OF DRUGS BENCH WARRANT none
CRB-08-22290-0102 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 DISORD CONDUCT;ENGAGE IN FIGHT/THREATEN amended from DOMESTIC VIOL;CAUSE FAMILY MEMBER TO BELIEVE OFFENDER WILL CAUSE IMMINENT PHYSICAL HARM GUILTY 04/07/2010
CRB-08-22290-0202 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 MENACING DISMISSED 04/07/2010
Quote:If I am reading the charges correctly, a lot of them are YEARS old. The most recent offenses are for motor vehicle accidents/stops?

These seem recent.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 02-17-2011

YES, SOME ARE OLD. THE SHEETS HAVE BEEN POSTED IN THE INTEREST OF FULL DISCLOSURE OF ALL THE PRINCIPALS and a complete record. THEY ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANY INVOLVEMENT IN THESE MURDERS.

Oops SORRY, MY CAPS WERE STUCK! hah

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - shitstorm - 02-17-2011

(02-17-2011, 11:08 AM)EastCoastKat Wrote:
(02-17-2011, 11:05 AM)BlueTiki Wrote:
(02-17-2011, 10:53 AM)Unknown Wrote: O Thank you TW you've cleared this whole mess up

It is amazing, isn't it?

Wonder if they had a chance to speak with a convicted murderer, who professed his/her innocence?

Well, boy-howdy!

There goes that danged overcrowded prison problem!

JC saying he would call her back a hour later is the total opposite of what TW said in the 911 call, sorry. Not a matter of semantics as somebody said. These are 2 very different statements.

Thanks for pointing that out. I'm still way back in the thread and maybe it's been discussed more. You are right about the devil being in the details.

Last night I brought up that Tiffany changed her story about her friend's mother's car. On the night of murders she said she had to wait for the mother to get home before driving to Lisa's. Last night she said she had to wake the mother up. I dismissed it as inconsequential but I could be wrong. It might be an indicator of pathological lying.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - purplepegasus - 02-17-2011

(02-17-2011, 05:38 PM)Sean69 Wrote:
(02-17-2011, 05:22 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote: NO, she wasn't even consistent, on the 911 call she says she called JC right back and texted LS, on the board here she says she waited a hour didn't call them because JC said he would call her in an hour... why wouldn't she mention that to the 911 operator, oh he said he would call me in an hour so I didn't bother checking or calling anyone, NOPE she never says that once, infact she supposedly was worried right away calling him right back and texting LS,how on earth are these 2 statements consistent? You got me??? She is a manipulator. Drug addicts and cons know how to do it the best and playing stupid is probably on of her biggest ruses. Or saying things to certain people. Version #1 I called Johnny right back and texted LS. Or Version#2 Oh I waited an hour cause JC said to wait an hour.They know every trick in the book, at the risk of repeating myself, just ask people who deal with them, parents, lovers, kids, employers, parole officer, doctors that they get to write them prescriptions. I would believe that maybe all that tough nigga/bytch talk on her FB site was just stupid stuff, IF, if it didnt' have the rapsheet and the dead ex to go along with it. She knows way more and even who was involved in this and I agree Sociopaths are charming when they want something that is!!

This is what I've been trying to get across, but only a few people are getting it - and it really is quite serious...

I don't remember Tiffany saying that JC told her to wait an hour. I thought she said that he said he would call her back and when he didn't call back in an hour, she went to the Straub's house to see if everything was OK.


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - LytoMe - 02-17-2011

(02-17-2011, 05:42 PM)BlueTiki Wrote:
(02-17-2011, 05:39 PM)LytoMe Wrote: [quote='Lady Cop' pid='129439' dateline='1297978252']
[b]Johnny's father:

CRB-08-19341-0101 CLARKE, JOVANNY 07/16/1969 POSSESSION OF DRUGS BENCH WARRANT none
CRB-08-22290-0102 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 DISORD CONDUCT;ENGAGE IN FIGHT/THREATEN amended from DOMESTIC VIOL;CAUSE FAMILY MEMBER TO BELIEVE OFFENDER WILL CAUSE IMMINENT PHYSICAL HARM GUILTY 04/07/2010
CRB-08-22290-0202 CLARKE, JOHN 07/16/1969 MENACING DISMISSED 04/07/2010
Quote:If I am reading the charges correctly, a lot of them are YEARS old. The most recent offenses are for motor vehicle accidents/stops?

These seem recent.

Our complaint numbers in NJ the first two (2) is the year of incident, is that not the case in Ohio? Just because the dismissed or pleading of guilty is in 2010, does not mean the incident happened in 2010. I am NOT FAMILIAR with Ohio Law, LC am I reading this correctly?

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 02-17-2011

i'd need to see the actual police reports. and they appear to me to have been pleaded out. not sure.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - shitstorm - 02-17-2011

(02-17-2011, 11:33 AM)grey sweat pants Wrote: While I find it very interesting that she came here to answer questions I still think she knows something. Here are my reasons...

She has ties to some very unsavory people. It is very clear through her own fb page that she has friends that have all been in jail for some reason or another and I am not talking about traffic crime. She has her own rap sheet, for LYING TO THE POLICE. Even if that was just her identity why would I believe ANYTHING she says.



Again I have ties to Lisa's family so I wanted to clear up a few things. Yes JC was living there. Her parents had a lot of concerns about him. They were hoping that
1. He would get his life together or
2. Lisa would see what he was headed for and bail.

it was also easier to keep an eye on their daughter if she was at home then if she was living somewhere else. It was also easier to keep an eye on HIM if he lived there.

Also Lisa's family wants nothing to do with JC's family. That is why I have refused to attend any benefits they put on. They are sitting back and letting LE do their job.

That is just so sad. Their strategy backfired in the worst way possible. Early in reading this thread I was thinking that if you have a daughter like Lisa and she gets mixed up with a Johnny, you put her on the next flight to Europe and tell her she's getting a dream vacation.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - heyyou - 02-17-2011

hey im new here and have been reading the posts and i wanna put my input in...... i think that its kinda weird about all this stuff with tiffany her stories dont add up and another thing just a year ago tiffanys boyfriend 50cal was shot n murdered for attempting to rob sum friends of his and he got caught juz my opinion but i would suspect that with tiffany being so involved with this brutal murder that she is very much involved

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - BlueTiki - 02-17-2011

(02-17-2011, 06:09 PM)heyyou Wrote: hey im new here and have been reading the posts and i wanna put my input in...... i think that its kinda weird about all this stuff with tiffany her stories dont add up and another thing just a year ago tiffanys boyfriend 50cal was shot n murdered for attempting to rob sum friends of his and he got caught juz my opinion but i would suspect that with tiffany being so involved with this brutal murder that she is very much involved

Is it me or does anyone else hear Roger Miller singing "Dang Me"?

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 02-17-2011



Hahahahahahaha! Fuckin' aye!

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - heyyou - 02-17-2011

what is that supposed 2 mean

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - TotallyCurious - 02-17-2011

Even if Johnny had not been living there, he would have been with
Lisa at her house when the parents vacationed. I do not think the
living with her had anything to do with it.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 02-17-2011

(02-17-2011, 06:13 PM)heyyou Wrote: what is that supposed 2 mean

just that most of that ground has been covered. it's a LONG thread. Smiley_emoticons_wink

welcome~~