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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 12:09 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-19-2011, 11:30 AM)Adub Wrote:(02-19-2011, 11:00 AM)kfran Wrote:(02-19-2011, 12:11 AM)Adub Wrote:(02-18-2011, 11:50 PM)LoserCity Wrote: ahhh....so what's with using all the 3's in some writing? I think TW's death space page was like this. Someone posted something, & the more I think about it, I really think they're probably right. (sorry, I can't remember who posted it, or I'd give credit) Anyway, I think it's very possible, TW wasn't going anywhere with Johnny & Lisa, that night. I think they were taking dope to TW ???. I can understand her making up a story about playing pool, IF this is the case. She's not going to come out & say 'yeah, Johnny was coming over to drop off some weed' (or whatever) .. JMO RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - HeartBreaker - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 02:08 PM)Wish.I.was.a.P.I Wrote: The problem is (IMO) there are so many FB friends of friends of friends that are connected that there is no way you can determine anything going off who's friends with who. Believe me, I have creeped on so many of this one and that one that I could fill up a flow chart the size of Ohio with connections. What I have observed is this, at one point in time, the friends that TW had while she was with/around Donald aren't too close to her anymore. She admits that after Donald died she had an addiction to percocets but was planning to get her life back together again. She has 3 kids, not living with her, all from different dads, 2 of which she had very young and one as you all know is Donalds and is currently prego with AP/AG's. She seems to have ok correspondence with the other daddys. I don't see anything proving that she was friends/close or even knew Johnny and/or back when she was with Donald but I'm sure they were aware of each other as both crowds know one or more friends of friends but clearly TW's crowd is tough/gang related/bad guys. They may have been bloods but I've seen alot of "goon" talk...is there a gang named goons? or is that a gang member term? not sure how the term "goon" is being thrown around in what you've read but it is in the urban dictionary (several uses). here's the link and the first two definitions: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=goon goon: 1. a real man or nigga originated in flordia 2. Someone hired to rough someone up, usually someone big and dumb who commits acts of violence for money. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 12:49 PM)Adub Wrote:(02-19-2011, 12:30 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:(02-19-2011, 12:25 PM)Adub Wrote:TW met them through the minor, ZB, who allegedly was into percocets heavily. JC was friends with the minor. I believe TW said that was how she met them, she met JC first and then met LS through, ZB and JC, at ZB's house.(02-19-2011, 12:09 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-19-2011, 11:30 AM)Adub Wrote: I'm just saying bloods don't use the letter c. Instead they use a 3. Just like crips don't use the letter b. Anything I know comes from gang education classes given by a Gang Task Force. I had to do the training for my job. Where I live the gangs are more defined. Toledo is all mixed up it seems. More tolerant of others maybe? Who knows. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks Z is a minor player, in all of this. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 12:53 PM)sharit Wrote: i own a cleaning service and most all place that i clean have alarms. i have never seen 1 which uses a key, never. yes they do have logs and if wire were cut the security service would know this and send LE.once you enter building you have 45 seconds to disarm, or le will be on there way. exactly. I'm not sure where the key being related to the security system came from, but I simply passed that by. I don't think the key had anything to do with the alarm system. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ZEROSPHERES - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 01:43 PM)kfran Wrote: Would there be a point for coroner to do a toxicology report on JC & LS? IMO-toxicology is warranted on LS and JC. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - purplepegasus - 02-19-2011 Was it ever said how Johnny and Lisa met? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - HeartBreaker - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 02:22 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-19-2011, 12:53 PM)sharit Wrote: i own a cleaning service and most all place that i clean have alarms. i have never seen 1 which uses a key, never. yes they do have logs and if wire were cut the security service would know this and send LE.once you enter building you have 45 seconds to disarm, or le will be on there way. some safes require both a key and a code to be punched in (i don't know if they would have numbers on them or not). although it is being reported by the uncle that there was no safe so... ??? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - HeartBreaker - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 02:27 PM)purplepegasus Wrote: Was it ever said how Johnny and Lisa met? i have not heard that but it would be interesting to know. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - LoserCity - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 12:08 PM)HeartBreaker Wrote:(02-19-2011, 11:50 AM)truth be told Wrote: Am I the only that finds it very strange that a couple is murdered inside of the girlfriends parents home....and out of 6-billion people in the world, the people who actually find them dead just happens to be the boyfriend's parents...hmm. I find it hard to believe that they are so much smarter than trained officers. And as far as Maytee having special powers...please! She is as about clairvoyant as Oprah Winfrey is a Lounge singer. Anyone know how many of the suspicious people we are talking about here have actual jobs? (Maytee, Dad, TW, AG)? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 01:50 PM)Duchess Wrote: yep, I'll go with that too. Not to keep harping on Maytee, BUT she knew the parents were out of town. I think it's possible she mentioned it to someone, maybe not even realizing the person/persons she told aren't 'good people' ??? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Methusala - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 01:18 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: If I thought I was going to steal something I would not take a briefcase. Bags? What bags? I thought all they found where pieces of little "baggies" like the kind used for pot and drugs. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 02:08 PM)Wish.I.was.a.P.I Wrote: The problem is (IMO) there are so many FB friends of friends of friends that are connected that there is no way you can determine anything going off who's friends with who. Believe me, I have creeped on so many of this one and that one that I could fill up a flow chart the size of Ohio with connections. What I have observed is this, at one point in time, the friends that TW had while she was with/around Donald aren't too close to her anymore. She admits that after Donald died she had an addiction to percocets but was planning to get her life back together again. She has 3 kids, not living with her, all from different dads, 2 of which she had very young and one as you all know is Donalds and is currently prego with AP/AG's. She seems to have ok correspondence with the other daddys. I don't see anything proving that she was friends/close or even knew Johnny and/or back when she was with Donald but I'm sure they were aware of each other as both crowds know one or more friends of friends but clearly TW's crowd is tough/gang related/bad guys. They may have been bloods but I've seen alot of "goon" talk...is there a gang named goons? or is that a gang member term? (02-19-2011, 02:19 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-19-2011, 12:49 PM)Adub Wrote:(02-19-2011, 12:30 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:(02-19-2011, 12:25 PM)Adub Wrote:TW met them through the minor, ZB, who allegedly was into percocets heavily. JC was friends with the minor. I believe TW said that was how she met them, she met JC first and then met LS through, ZB and JC, at ZB's house.(02-19-2011, 12:09 PM)onefortheroad Wrote: You make some good points, and the killings would have sent a sharp message to Johnny's gang, if he was in one. Tiffany's 'fallen soldier' was a Blood, and so is her current BF (AG, I think, though I gather she gets it on with ZB too). That would make her a Blood too or at least show where her loyalties lie. A junkie punk in withdrawals, hmmmmm who was at the house the night before with TW and was going back the very night they are murdered? I would't exactly rule him out or who he may have told about that house and it might have a safe, a safe, money and JC might have drugs....nope wouldn't be ruling out MR.Z at all. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ZEROSPHERES - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 01:28 PM)catch22 Wrote:(02-19-2011, 12:53 PM)sharit Wrote: i own a cleaning service and most all place that i clean have alarms. i have never seen 1 which uses a key, never. yes they do have logs and if wire were cut the security service would know this and send LE.once you enter building you have 45 seconds to disarm, or le will be on there way. Hope this hepls. it was posted by "unknown: a while back. Unknown - 02-06-2011 05:00 PM Newer white econ van seen outside the house a day or two before, neighbors say. Perps cut the telephone alarm either the night of the killings or prior days. Go in through the garage into the kitchen where johnny and Lisa are. Johnny grabs a knife, Lisa freaks out and runs down the hall to the front of the house and up the stairs possibly hitting the alarm. She runs into her room and slams the door, then the perp kicks or rams through the door and pulls her down the stairs buy her hair while Lisa reaches up and digs her nails into the arm or face of the perp. In the mean time 2 perps try to over take johnny, but johnny get a few licks in with the knife. blood everywhere in the kitchen (guy who had to clean it up says: There was a lot of blood in there. They duct tape Johnny up and subdue Lisa. They begin torturing them buy asphyxiation to get what information they want. The perps begin rumbling through the house finding anything that points to drugs, money, and security systems to remove any recordings. The lighter and the Baggies were probably pulled out of Johnnys pocket while bounded looking for cash RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 02:22 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-19-2011, 12:53 PM)sharit Wrote: i own a cleaning service and most all place that i clean have alarms. i have never seen 1 which uses a key, never. yes they do have logs and if wire were cut the security service would know this and send LE.once you enter building you have 45 seconds to disarm, or le will be on there way. It's back in the thread, if I have the patience I will find it..... but here is what I found about keys and security systems: Google or Yahoo it..... There are keys: These keys are most often seen in home alarm systems, vending machines, and bicycle locks, in the United States. These keys typically come in seven and eight-pin versions as well as miniature versions which are used on computers. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 02:29 PM)HeartBreaker Wrote:(02-19-2011, 02:22 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-19-2011, 12:53 PM)sharit Wrote: i own a cleaning service and most all place that i clean have alarms. i have never seen 1 which uses a key, never. yes they do have logs and if wire were cut the security service would know this and send LE.once you enter building you have 45 seconds to disarm, or le will be on there way. apparently there was no safe, so I'm talking about the security alarm system, in the home. I don't think the key had anything to do with that. jmo RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - TotallyCurious - 02-19-2011 They key could be a calling card, too. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 02:40 PM)Methusala Wrote:(02-19-2011, 01:18 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: If I thought I was going to steal something I would not take a briefcase. I believe TC is talking about bags being brought into the home, to use in taking stolen stuff out ? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - 02-19-2011 (02-15-2011, 03:19 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:(02-15-2011, 03:15 PM)KarmaK Wrote: Has there been any other mention of the key found under the body?i can't recall the source now, but i read the key was connected to the alarm system. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 02:42 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:(02-19-2011, 02:08 PM)Wish.I.was.a.P.I Wrote: The problem is (IMO) there are so many FB friends of friends of friends that are connected that there is no way you can determine anything going off who's friends with who. Believe me, I have creeped on so many of this one and that one that I could fill up a flow chart the size of Ohio with connections. What I have observed is this, at one point in time, the friends that TW had while she was with/around Donald aren't too close to her anymore. She admits that after Donald died she had an addiction to percocets but was planning to get her life back together again. She has 3 kids, not living with her, all from different dads, 2 of which she had very young and one as you all know is Donalds and is currently prego with AP/AG's. She seems to have ok correspondence with the other daddys. I don't see anything proving that she was friends/close or even knew Johnny and/or back when she was with Donald but I'm sure they were aware of each other as both crowds know one or more friends of friends but clearly TW's crowd is tough/gang related/bad guys. They may have been bloods but I've seen alot of "goon" talk...is there a gang named goons? or is that a gang member term? See, the thing is, I'm not giving a whole lot of credit to anyone that posted anything about Z, to be honest, lol ... Didn't we hear him first mentioned by 'grieving friend' or ugh, I forgot the other name now. ?? Anyone could come on here, & trash any of the characters, simply because they don't like them, or they've heard thru the grapevine.. Z may very well be involved, but delving into his life, only gets me confused. For the time being anyway. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 02:46 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:(02-19-2011, 02:22 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-19-2011, 12:53 PM)sharit Wrote: i own a cleaning service and most all place that i clean have alarms. i have never seen 1 which uses a key, never. yes they do have logs and if wire were cut the security service would know this and send LE.once you enter building you have 45 seconds to disarm, or le will be on there way. no no, I'll take your word for it. Don't bother with going back, EC |