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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Countryside_Belle - 02-23-2011 (02-22-2011, 05:41 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: Correct me if I am wrong. I'm catching up so forgive me if this has been answered- I thought maybe the 2 steak knives that were taken into evidence may hold the answer to this....? Maybe Johnny got some good licks in or something before he was subdued by the attacker(s)? I've seen some REALLY bloody noses in the E.R. after drunken bar fights....even a simple punch to a nose or anywhere on the head can cause a lot of blood... RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - cjcisneros - 02-23-2011 (02-23-2011, 03:33 PM)sharit Wrote:(02-23-2011, 01:39 PM)Spalding Wrote:(02-23-2011, 01:35 PM)broke331 Wrote: And as far as punch holes in the walls,who in the hell would put a safe in the wall, drywall over it. How would they get to it. alot of people lost trust in banks when all this recession stuff came about ! RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - kfran - 02-23-2011 (02-23-2011, 03:36 PM)Countryside_Belle Wrote:(02-22-2011, 05:41 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: Correct me if I am wrong. I'm having a hard time imagining that Johnny would punch or cut one of the intruders & they wouldn't cut him back. I really hope we eventually find out what happened, play by play. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 02-23-2011 (02-23-2011, 03:35 PM)trixie Wrote: JC and LS Case Open Discussion if you want it in future: http://mockforums.net/thread-4854.html it's fine here too. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - 02-23-2011 Wow, I think it's crazy that these guys with Tiffany were also at a summer party with Lisa and friends, that is probably how Lisa and Johnny met, so this circle is much smaller than we think, or wider than we think, , no wonder LE hasn't said anything, OMG. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Countryside_Belle - 02-23-2011 (02-22-2011, 07:42 PM)lawheeze Wrote:totally!(02-22-2011, 07:17 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: Does anyone think that Johnny might have been totally innocent that night?I don't think the perps put much thought into preserving a happy ending for Johnny and Lisa. The tape was only for the purpose of killing them. If you throw your loot and drugs into a bag, you don't tape the bag shut. You just carry it out. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - cjcisneros - 02-23-2011 (02-23-2011, 03:43 PM)Countryside_Belle Wrote:(02-22-2011, 07:42 PM)lawheeze Wrote:totally!(02-22-2011, 07:17 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: Does anyone think that Johnny might have been totally innocent that night?I don't think the perps put much thought into preserving a happy ending for Johnny and Lisa. The tape was only for the purpose of killing them. If you throw your loot and drugs into a bag, you don't tape the bag shut. You just carry it out. IMO -- I think that if it is true that LS' tongue was cut - I don't think they cared if they saw who they were and wanted them dead ! I know it was a rumer about the tongue but if it's true.... RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - 02-23-2011 (02-23-2011, 03:27 PM)trixie Wrote:(02-23-2011, 03:25 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:(02-23-2011, 03:21 PM)Adub Wrote:(02-23-2011, 03:18 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:(02-23-2011, 03:00 PM)Duchess Wrote: Yep so that makes it 3, and I think maybe TS was the original connection. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - imsuchawildflower - 02-23-2011 (02-23-2011, 10:53 AM)sharit Wrote:(02-23-2011, 10:50 AM)curious Wrote:i do believe you can get text messages from phone co. remember the text messages that came out of the casey anthony case.(02-23-2011, 01:16 AM)Spalding Wrote:(02-23-2011, 01:10 AM)Miss Conspiracy Wrote:(02-23-2011, 01:07 AM)Miss Conspiracy Wrote: Another good point. I really have to wonder if the suspects brought the tape/bags or got it from the house. I wish they would release more information! Lisa's parents would be able to confirm if that was possibly from their home. And about the safe... again, Mr. Z and Tiff had hung out w/JC and Lisa a few times at the house.. JC could have mentioned the safe at any of those times, or even at the party. Might as well look for that safe after the attack I called a friend who works for a cell phone company. Text messages are only available for law enforcement or a lawyer. There is some stipulation on lawyers, probable cause via LE. There is alot of paperwork involved, Im guessing a search warrant type request. Once this paperwork is done, there is nothing the cell phone company can do, they have to turn over the info. The text info comes from the company headquarters...it cant be done in a regular office where you go buy a phone etc. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Adub - 02-23-2011 (02-23-2011, 03:36 PM)Countryside_Belle Wrote:(02-22-2011, 05:41 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: Correct me if I am wrong. Maybe the knives were used to rip the tape. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - 02-23-2011 (02-23-2011, 03:50 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:(02-23-2011, 03:27 PM)trixie Wrote:(02-23-2011, 03:25 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:(02-23-2011, 03:21 PM)Adub Wrote:(02-23-2011, 03:18 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote: Duchess I have a picture of Tiffany that proves she knew at least 2 of these guys at the party with Lisa can I post it here? J is friends with Tiffany and Lisa Straub....things that make you go hmmmmm. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - imsuchawildflower - 02-23-2011 (02-23-2011, 11:24 AM)Wish.I.was.a.P.I Wrote: So, these Interband pants got me thinking....this is Ohio...who calls them Interband? Why not Yoga pants? I never even heard the two toned colors being called Interband before and I'm quite the clothes whore. So, I did a little more research because I thought that word "Interband" was too complicated for just two different color yoga pants. Brilliant thinking! I wondered why they would call them that...made no sense. NOW it does. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Spalding - 02-23-2011 (02-23-2011, 03:39 PM)cjcisneros Wrote:(02-23-2011, 03:33 PM)sharit Wrote:(02-23-2011, 01:39 PM)Spalding Wrote:(02-23-2011, 01:35 PM)broke331 Wrote: And as far as punch holes in the walls,who in the hell would put a safe in the wall, drywall over it. How would they get to it. Mine was a rhetorical question. We all know there are people on the fringes who will do almost anything you can think of, like keeping massive amounts of cash in their home. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Countryside_Belle - 02-23-2011 (02-22-2011, 10:20 PM)lawheeze Wrote: I don't understand why some believe there wasn't always an intent to kill? Would a gang home invasion of people that know each other just end up with a couple tied up, able to talk? I think there's no way they would leave anyone alive to testify. I think the moment the perps put their plan into action, death was their intended outcome for the victims. I TOTALLY agree with this....in my mind, there was defint. INTENT to kill! RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - JustSayin... - 02-23-2011 (02-23-2011, 03:05 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:(02-23-2011, 02:54 PM)DickTracy Wrote:(02-23-2011, 02:29 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:(02-23-2011, 02:26 PM)DickTracy Wrote: Correct me if I am wrong, but I do believe this guy was in pics with Tiff. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - 02-23-2011 (02-23-2011, 03:58 PM)Countryside_Belle Wrote:(02-22-2011, 10:20 PM)lawheeze Wrote: I don't understand why some believe there wasn't always an intent to kill? Would a gang home invasion of people that know each other just end up with a couple tied up, able to talk? I think there's no way they would leave anyone alive to testify. I think the moment the perps put their plan into action, death was their intended outcome for the victims. Most with an intent to kill don't usually use plastic bags and duct tape, except maybe the wandering serial killer, they know they are going to kill and bring something that will do the job. I think they brought duct tape to restrain and then it went overboard, and a brand new sociopathic psycho was born. JMO RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - TotallyCurious - 02-23-2011 Comment ------ It has been said that Johnny did not like his mother, and did not get along with her. Then why does she say he calls her all the time? Anyway....I think Maytee was probably quite pissed that Johnny was living better than she was. Jealousy. Maytee has seen people use the keys on numerous occasions. Does that intimate that she could have stalked the place? Alternative Theory ------- OK. Now, what if the Straubs had their locks changed or something in the way of security done and she saw the truck in the driveway? Or say there is a pool supply person (obviously) and a yardman and any number of people who knew a bit about the Straubs. John or Maytee could cozy up to one of them, hear that there is a stash in there by some goon braggart who is just mouthing off because he has had a few too many. I know I have heard people'say "They have a full bar in their basement, three of each and cases of wine." about a friend and it was true. But it might not have been true either. So some jerkoff says "Yeah, they got big time money stashed there I bet. He bought a fireproof safe." Well, what if it happens to have been a gun safe? I have one. It is fireproof. Long story short.........Maytee and John decide to have some of their gangsta friends get the goodies. It goes bad. John's friends call him and tell him and he starts to panic that Johnny might have been there. That would account for the excessive amount of info that Maytee told the 911 dispatcher, her use of the word 'safe' and John's thread to 'get them.' Too far fetched? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - TotallyCurious - 02-23-2011 Now, does anyone know if the Straub's bought their cruise tickets or won them? If they won them, they somebody wanted them out of town. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - DickTracy - 02-23-2011 (02-23-2011, 04:03 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: Comment ------ It has been said that Johnny did not like his mother, What if Johnny's best friend has a brother that works for UPS? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Countryside_Belle - 02-23-2011 (02-23-2011, 12:00 AM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:(02-22-2011, 11:58 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: Just a thought, the puppy could have easily torn up the bags into pieces. lmfao! |