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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ZEROSPHERES - 02-25-2011 (02-25-2011, 01:35 PM)Methusala Wrote:(02-25-2011, 01:10 PM)My3littlepiggies Wrote:What I don't get is posing in deliberately mean, arrogant, threatening poses, flashing signs with your fingers; and in many cases posing with a gun, or in a group picture with someone else holding a gun.(02-25-2011, 01:02 PM)curious Wrote: [quote='curious' pid='135603' dateline='1298652634'] They may not consider it any different than the 60s generation flashing the peace sign. Simply a common bonding in a culture where you are presenting your identity. In Nazi Germany you were either "IN" or "OUT" and out was more dangerous than being in. If can we learn anything from history; as a culture we need to confront a sweeping moral decay in the US and do it soon while there are still more of us than them; or one day we may have a gangsta president, legally elected who suspends the constitution in "Hitleresque" repeat of history. IMHO RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 02-25-2011 (02-25-2011, 01:29 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: just a note to those to whom it applies: I'd just like to reiterate what LC has so graciously asked for. She's been very kind & patient with everyone, I don't have a kind or gracious bone in my body and I don't have any problem with telling all of you that it applies to, load a motherfucking avatar, do it before you make one more post or I will deny you access to this thread. Got it? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Butterfly Girl - 02-25-2011 (02-25-2011, 11:31 AM)notsure Wrote: I would encourage the MEN of the group to start taking yes, otherwise it could be generation after generation of feral children growing up to be psychopathic adults raising feral children. jmo [/quote] How about using some form of birth control? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - pspence - 02-25-2011 (02-25-2011, 12:50 PM)curious Wrote: Geeze, if anyone on this forum works for the Toledo Convention & Visitors Bureau I would highly recommend a new image/marketing plans be in the works :O Good one! RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - shitstorm - 02-25-2011 (02-25-2011, 10:02 AM)pspence Wrote: have you read "The sociopath next door" by Martha Stout. I did read that. Didn't like the subtle political agenda, but the info on sociopaths was good. [/quote] Dying to read the book and will get it today...I'm curious...what could be the subtle political agenda on a book about sociopaths? I would think fear of sociopaths in our society would be bi-partisan...what is it anti-or pro death penalty or something like that? [/quote] I don't recall any mention of the death penalty. Throughout the book she has this theme going that individuality v. collectivism is responsible for allowing sociopaths to thrive. That is complete and total horseshit. She's trying to promote her political agenda, which is socialist, on the back of the of the topic about sociopathy. I found it sickening. I could write a book and refute everything she said and show where bureaucratic institutionalism nurtures and protects the sociopathic personality, which would be just as disingenuous. Her main heroin and victim in her book is a Jewish psychiatrist, which was also funny. If people knew the history of psychiatry they would see the ethnic agenda in her story and the absurdity of what it is she's trying to do in her book. Suffice it to say, individual responsibility and the principals in our Constitution are not the cause of sociopathy. I'm sure there are far better books to found on the subject. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-25-2011 (02-25-2011, 12:42 PM)toledoarea Wrote: If Tiff was a teacher, she'd be Mary Kay Letourneau lmao!! where did that come from, hahahaaa! I've got paaaaages, & paaaages to catch up on, too! RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-25-2011 (02-25-2011, 01:57 PM)Methusala Wrote: Thanks, Zero. yes! Welcome back! RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-25-2011 (02-25-2011, 12:44 PM)My3littlepiggies Wrote:(02-25-2011, 12:31 PM)LoserCity Wrote:Ummm, quite a few. Crossgates area, Heatherdowns area, Beverly area, Harvard Area.(02-25-2011, 11:26 AM)My3littlepiggies Wrote: Just a little something. I don't know if it sheds any light on the crime. About ten years ago a group of friends that had just graduated a couple of years before from Bowsher High School (same high school as a lot of these characters) murdered their friend for drugs. Shot him in the back of the head while they were riding in his car and broke all his bones and shoved him in a drain pipe. It took about a year for LE to get the whole case together but they did get a conviction. This was a robbery for drug money. Although, the method of murder is not the same it was still very brutal. I don't remember all the reports but I believe they also poured gasoline or acid on him. However, contrary to what several people want to harp on. Toledo is not a shithole filled in drug dealing criminals. We have problems like any other big city. (we are not a tiny honkey tonk town) But Toledo is not a shithole. "white flight" ... that's interesting! I wont be knockin' your city. I don't know anything about Toledo, OH... never been there RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - 02-25-2011 (02-25-2011, 01:33 PM)curious Wrote:(02-25-2011, 01:17 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:(02-25-2011, 01:10 PM)My3littlepiggies Wrote:(02-25-2011, 01:02 PM)curious Wrote:(02-25-2011, 12:50 PM)curious Wrote: Geeze, if anyone on this forum works for the Toledo Convention & Visitors Bureau I would highly recommend a new image/marketing plans be in the works :O "Agree that this generation's style and verbal symantics are vastly different from say, the 60's, but trying to compare cultural movements with thugs who bring violence and street crime to communities has hardly any relevence on their attire or use of slang, so to to speak" . I'm not sure what you mean here, maybe you can clarify it for me?? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-25-2011 (02-25-2011, 11:59 AM)toledoarea Wrote:(02-25-2011, 11:54 AM)c-bus Wrote:(02-25-2011, 11:26 AM)My3littlepiggies Wrote: Just a little something. I don't know if it sheds any light on the crime. About ten years ago a group of friends that had just graduated a couple of years before from Bowsher High School (same high school as a lot of these characters) murdered their friend for drugs. Shot him in the back of the head while they were riding in his car and broke all his bones and shoved him in a drain pipe. It took about a year for LE to get the whole case together but they did get a conviction. This was a robbery for drug money. Although, the method of murder is not the same it was still very brutal. I don't remember all the reports but I believe they also poured gasoline or acid on him. However, contrary to what several people want to harp on. Toledo is not a shithole filled in drug dealing criminals. We have problems like any other big city. (we are not a tiny honkey tonk town) But Toledo is not a shithole. I think she was too ... Really sad. I wouldn't want to die with a plastic bag over my head RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - shitstorm - 02-25-2011 (02-25-2011, 10:53 AM)EastCoastKat Wrote: My husband told me that a lot of gang members that do military, come back into the neighborhoods and teach the other gang members techniques they learned in the war zones, something I was unaware of... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gqShQTSDCM RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ZEROSPHERES - 02-25-2011 pspence Please get an AV. I don't want you blocked from this thread zero RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-25-2011 (02-25-2011, 12:02 PM)pspence Wrote: I remember a professor once saying that we need to legalize drugs because we'll never win that war...put the $$ instead into education and treatment...it was not the "drugs" that made people violent/crime/murder but the "business of drugs" that was responsible for the violence/crime/murders...I remember being shocked at first at thinking legalizing all drugs ...but then think of all of the addicts in jail that maybe wouldn't have been exposed to this gangsta life...get the non-violent ones out of jail ...who cares if they sit home all day and get wasted as long as they don't hurt any innocent people...open up room in the jails for the pedophiles and murderers that now they have to let out early because of no room...just food for thought... I'm all for legalizing marijuana ... RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - lou1975 - 02-25-2011 (02-25-2011, 02:59 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-25-2011, 12:02 PM)pspence Wrote: I remember a professor once saying that we need to legalize drugs because we'll never win that war...put the $$ instead into education and treatment...it was not the "drugs" that made people violent/crime/murder but the "business of drugs" that was responsible for the violence/crime/murders...I remember being shocked at first at thinking legalizing all drugs ...but then think of all of the addicts in jail that maybe wouldn't have been exposed to this gangsta life...get the non-violent ones out of jail ...who cares if they sit home all day and get wasted as long as they don't hurt any innocent people...open up room in the jails for the pedophiles and murderers that now they have to let out early because of no room...just food for thought... I agree. I am a medicinal marijuana user. So I am self medicating and chancing an arrest. So less pain = possible conviction RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Freshbait78 - 02-25-2011 (02-25-2011, 12:44 PM)My3littlepiggies Wrote:(02-25-2011, 12:31 PM)LoserCity Wrote:Ummm, quite a few. Crossgates area, Heatherdowns area, Beverly area, Harvard Area.(02-25-2011, 11:26 AM)My3littlepiggies Wrote: Just a little something. I don't know if it sheds any light on the crime. About ten years ago a group of friends that had just graduated a couple of years before from Bowsher High School (same high school as a lot of these characters) murdered their friend for drugs. Shot him in the back of the head while they were riding in his car and broke all his bones and shoved him in a drain pipe. It took about a year for LE to get the whole case together but they did get a conviction. This was a robbery for drug money. Although, the method of murder is not the same it was still very brutal. I don't remember all the reports but I believe they also poured gasoline or acid on him. However, contrary to what several people want to harp on. Toledo is not a shithole filled in drug dealing criminals. We have problems like any other big city. (we are not a tiny honkey tonk town) But Toledo is not a shithole. Well I'm a 3rd generation south ender too & I will knock the city LOL I grew up in the Western/Broadway/South area & hightaled my ass right outta there as soon as I could. Had the opportunity to move back over there a couple of years ago when my dad passed & I was given the option to take over his house. I didn't & within months it was stripped. They even took the bathtub! You say Heatherdowns is a good area? False! That's where I moved & have lived in this area for 10+ years now. I lived at Hidden Cedars Condos & it got so infested with drugs & gang bangers there that I decided to move. The morning of my move I woke up to a 6'0 tall 300+lb mexican dude standing in my bedroom doorway at 6am. :O Moved that same day but stayed in the general area. Heatherdowns/Reynolds/Glendale. It's NOT a good area. You must have missed the riot with gun fire that happened at Southwycke Lanes a couple months ago? & that same night the 17 year old kid that was shot in the back just a couple of blocks down from there? & the shots fired at the teen dance club less than a mile from there in Maumee? What about the motel that was torn down on the corner of Heatherdowns/Reynolds a few years ago because it was infested with drug dealers & prostitutes? It's gotten to the point where I can't walk to the store in the daylight in the summer without being solicited for money or being approached by a creepy old man who wants to "give me a ride" To sum it up... Toledo is a shit hole IMHO RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-25-2011 (02-25-2011, 04:00 AM)kitty1 Wrote:(02-25-2011, 01:40 AM)imsuchawildflower Wrote:(02-16-2011, 09:37 PM)netsleuth Wrote: Quick recap. right! You are correct! (in bold above) RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - LoserCity - 02-25-2011 (02-25-2011, 12:44 PM)My3littlepiggies Wrote:(02-25-2011, 12:31 PM)LoserCity Wrote:Ummm, quite a few. Crossgates area, Heatherdowns area, Beverly area, Harvard Area.(02-25-2011, 11:26 AM)My3littlepiggies Wrote: Just a little something. I don't know if it sheds any light on the crime. About ten years ago a group of friends that had just graduated a couple of years before from Bowsher High School (same high school as a lot of these characters) murdered their friend for drugs. Shot him in the back of the head while they were riding in his car and broke all his bones and shoved him in a drain pipe. It took about a year for LE to get the whole case together but they did get a conviction. This was a robbery for drug money. Although, the method of murder is not the same it was still very brutal. I don't remember all the reports but I believe they also poured gasoline or acid on him. However, contrary to what several people want to harp on. Toledo is not a shithole filled in drug dealing criminals. We have problems like any other big city. (we are not a tiny honkey tonk town) But Toledo is not a shithole. Well this "white" family decided to "flight" when our business - located ON Western - was broken into weekly, the kids couldn't go outside and ride their bikes on the sidewalks withoutthem being stolen, and a family friend was murdered while working at KFC. If that makes me scared - F yes I'm scared. I will walk alone at night in the Heights for a year before I would do it once in the South End. PS - I get what you're saying about pride in your area, but you are the exception, not the rule. In fact, I wish there were more like you to clean up the neighborhood. My parents and aunts/uncles went to Harvard and Bowsher and 3 of them ended up alcoholic drug addicts dying from heroin overdose. It's everywhere. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-25-2011 (02-25-2011, 03:07 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:(02-25-2011, 12:44 PM)My3littlepiggies Wrote:(02-25-2011, 12:31 PM)LoserCity Wrote:Ummm, quite a few. Crossgates area, Heatherdowns area, Beverly area, Harvard Area.(02-25-2011, 11:26 AM)My3littlepiggies Wrote: Just a little something. I don't know if it sheds any light on the crime. About ten years ago a group of friends that had just graduated a couple of years before from Bowsher High School (same high school as a lot of these characters) murdered their friend for drugs. Shot him in the back of the head while they were riding in his car and broke all his bones and shoved him in a drain pipe. It took about a year for LE to get the whole case together but they did get a conviction. This was a robbery for drug money. Although, the method of murder is not the same it was still very brutal. I don't remember all the reports but I believe they also poured gasoline or acid on him. However, contrary to what several people want to harp on. Toledo is not a shithole filled in drug dealing criminals. We have problems like any other big city. (we are not a tiny honkey tonk town) But Toledo is not a shithole. wow! RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - shitstorm - 02-25-2011 (02-25-2011, 11:44 AM)lou1975 Wrote:(02-25-2011, 11:26 AM)My3littlepiggies Wrote: Just a little something. I don't know if it sheds any light on the crime. About ten years ago a group of friends that had just graduated a couple of years before from Bowsher High School (same high school as a lot of these characters) murdered their friend for drugs. Shot him in the back of the head while they were riding in his car and broke all his bones and shoved him in a drain pipe. It took about a year for LE to get the whole case together but they did get a conviction. This was a robbery for drug money. Although, the method of murder is not the same it was still very brutal. I don't remember all the reports but I believe they also poured gasoline or acid on him. However, contrary to what several people want to harp on. Toledo is not a shithole filled in drug dealing criminals. We have problems like any other big city. (we are not a tiny honkey tonk town) But Toledo is not a shithole. How weird seeing Brit speak ("innit") mixed with gang speak, lol. Innit has alway been my favorite Brit word. Just look how far America prison culture has spread. It didn't do that by American ex-cons becoming ex-pats, either. It was spread through music and film by people who live in gated communities and have private jets. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-25-2011 (02-25-2011, 03:43 AM)RJs-Ex Wrote: I was meandering on FB, looking at the players' in this case friends of friends of friends of friends... and ran across this pic of Lisa. The pic was added to FB on Sept 28, 2010 but who knows when it was actually taken. wow, that picture's kind of creepy, with Tiffany standing there, smiling right behind Lisa.... |