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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - AriGold - 02-28-2011

IMO, The most likely suspects are:

1) Dr. Richard Kimble
2) Patrick Bateman
3) Stephen Hawking
3) Mickey and Mallory Knox
4) Lee Harvey Oswald
5) Stephen Hawking

Now, I'm no expert -- but they are more plausible than some of the bat-shit crazy theories (e.g. kitchen/being molested, etc...) I've read here....

I'm just sayin'.


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Miss Conspiracy - 02-28-2011

This pic really represents the gang of losers that hang out with each other
a bunch of underage gangsta wannabe's with a house full of alcohol... they are trying to be cool so bad it's pathetic. The guy on the left with that stupid ass haircut. Two pregnant chicks, one most likely underage. One drinking a beer while pregnant, hugging a dude with a neck tattoo. Oh the humanity lol.. this makes me sad and pissed at the same time lol


what's this this guy's hand tattoo? Can anyone make it out? Looks gang related. I see he's one of the guys that shows up in a lot of the pics with Tiff AND Lisa.


Someone mentioned the chick's new FB page and how she doesn't have Tiff or AP/AG as a friend on there. Kind of curious because that new page IS sort of a dedication/memorial to Johnny because of the "RIP Johnny" in the name of the page. It's kind of telling that she doesn't have them as her friends on a page that's a homage to Johnny

I can't wait for LE to say SOMETHING, ANYTHING! Their silence is driving me nuts...

There's something I have been thinking lately. The murders have to have happened before LE went to the house the first time. Judging by recent accounts of a gruesome, completely ransacked/chaotic crime scene.. I find it hard to believe that LE could not hear any of that happening when they went to the house. The attack had to have been loud. I don't think that Johnny or Lisa did not scream or make any kind of noise when they had the bags over their heads, and while Lisa was assaulted. And the perps really did a number on that house. By all accounts everything was quiet when LE was there. The deed had already been done early on,..

Those that are saying this can't be over percs because of the scales. Just because scales were out does NOT mean that is the ONLY drug they had around. They could have had more than one type of drug, one that needs weighing and also pills. The type of drug to me is irrelevant. The perps went there for drugs, money, or both. Doesn't matter what type of drug, because it will still get them MONEY no matter what. So say Mr.Z was desparate for percs. He can still rob Johnny of any other drug, because that will bring him money regardless.. so he can get his percocet.


PHOTOS OF MINORS EDITED OUT BY LC.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - pspence - 02-28-2011

They weren't looking for a safe with the all the vents off obviously...maybe didn't know anything about any safe at all- just went to that house with the intent of robbing...things escalated ...bags on head could have gone either way...didn't want to see faces or for a slow tortured death...OMG...either way...how sick and horrific...




RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - pspence - 02-28-2011

Everyday I drive to work and see the children, Tiff and her clan are bringing into this world. You are not meeting her where she is. You are meeting her on the internet. You said the other night "she was just having a little fun, do some percs drink some booze".


I actually see the children every day also ...in the building where I work standing in line at the door to get in...I don't know of the gang activity involved but people in poverty and frequently drug usage..."meeting someone where they are" is a term used in the broader sense of how to build trust with individuals in these circumstances to be effective in hopefully leading to positive changes in their behavior...you don't know me...you don't know the horror I feel when I see what I see and feel for the children and the hopelessness/dispare...however when faced with actually being one on one to try to help, bulldozing one's own rants don't see to help for some reason... doesn't seem to actually do any help.more of a term when dealing with

when I referred to that night that she may have been wanting to party...have a little fun...some drugs/booze...i was looking from HER perspective what may have been on her mind...again, I'm trying to think of things that may solve this case ...solving the problems of the world and that culture is for another thread...

by the way...if it were up to me, I would require any one on public assistance to be on automatic drug tests and birth control mandatory if on it too...

when you actually work with different communities and populations tho if you criminalize for example drug use while pregnant, it sounds so common sense...but if you worked with folks one on one you would realize the reality is that it only drives them away to not seek the prenatal care that we offer to a worse end - not only with more human suffering (unhealthy baby) but also more tax dollars spent on baby ending up in hospitals on our dime strung out...



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 02-28-2011

have you all gone nuts??

posting and quoting facebook page of uninvolved /not-named person?? posting photos of minors?? WTF!! heads are going to roll! without further warning. 90


let's hope for some news today.


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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ToledoNative - 02-28-2011

(02-28-2011, 08:07 AM)Lady Cop Wrote: have you all gone nuts??

posting and quoting facebook page of uninvolved /not-named person?? posting photos of minors?? WTF!! heads are going to roll! without further warning. 90


let's hope for some news today.


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LET ME GUESS, LC? YOU WENT TO SLEEP?

I told you...no sleeping, working, going to class, laying out by the pool...

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - wanttoknow - 02-28-2011

(02-28-2011, 07:18 AM)pspence Wrote: Everyday I drive to work and see the children, Tiff and her clan are bringing into this world. You are not meeting her where she is. You are meeting her on the internet. You said the other night "she was just having a little fun, do some percs drink some booze".


I actually see the children every day also ...in the building where I work standing in line at the door to get in...I don't know of the gang activity involved but people in poverty and frequently drug usage..."meeting someone where they are" is a term used in the broader sense of how to build trust with individuals in these circumstances to be effective in hopefully leading to positive changes in their behavior...you don't know me...you don't know the horror I feel when I see what I see and feel for the children and the hopelessness/dispare...however when faced with actually being one on one to try to help, bulldozing one's own rants don't see to help for some reason... doesn't seem to actually do any help.more of a term when dealing with

when I referred to that night that she may have been wanting to party...have a little fun...some drugs/booze...i was looking from HER perspective what may have been on her mind...again, I'm trying to think of things that may solve this case ...solving the problems of the world and that culture is for another thread...

by the way...if it were up to me, I would require any one on public assistance to be on automatic drug tests and birth control mandatory if on it too...

when you actually work with different communities and populations tho if you criminalize for example drug use while pregnant, it sounds so common sense...but if you worked with folks one on one you would realize the reality is that it only drives them away to not seek the prenatal care that we offer to a worse end - not only with more human suffering (unhealthy baby) but also more tax dollars spent on baby ending up in hospitals on our dime strung out...

Believe it or not, we do agree on some things. I knew what you meant when you said “meeting someone where they are”. Do you really think looking at her perspective is going to solve this case? I’m putting more locks on my doors, while your looking at it from her perspective. There is a good chance she is involved in a double murder. Why does she give two versions of what she heard that night? Read Unknown posts. He’s spot on a lot of things. Did you catch the duct work? I had heard that early on. I know you mean well, but asking her what she’s heard. I hope that’s not what your basing your opinion on. She is a liar. She’s god blessing you while she’s laughing her ass off. It seems like you are a very nice person. I truly mean that. I am not out to bash you. I just need more then her word. It’s nice she has pics of her children posted. Too bad she doesn’t live with them. My earlier offer still stands. Let me know, the trucks running.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Gonzojoe - 02-28-2011

LC I'm wondering how much info LE would give to the families at this point?Do they keep in constant contact with them or do they just tell them new info as they receive it?Do they tell them anything at all?And would they tell someone that might be a little mentally unstable anything at all?

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 02-28-2011

(02-28-2011, 09:39 AM)Gonzojoe Wrote: LC I'm wondering how much info LE would give to the families at this point?Do they keep in constant contact with them or do they just tell them new info as they receive it?Do they tell them anything at all?And would they tell someone that might be a little mentally unstable anything at all?

LE is likely not saying much about their evidence to family members. for various reasons. one of which would be integrity of investigation.


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-28-2011

(02-27-2011, 10:00 PM)DivineDragon Wrote: I didn't claim it was a revelation - simply what I believe. I would have to spin a yarn about aliens to come up with something that hasn't been said before.Also, you don't really want me to surprise you do you? Smiley_emoticons_wink

hahahaaaaa! (in bold above)



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-28-2011

(02-28-2011, 08:07 AM)Lady Cop Wrote: have you all gone nuts??

posting and quoting facebook page of uninvolved /not-named person?? posting photos of minors?? WTF!! heads are going to roll! without further warning. 90

let's hope for some news today.

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THANK GOD!!!!! Some of this Facebook shit was getting downright boring!



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Gonzojoe - 02-28-2011

(02-28-2011, 09:44 AM)Lady Cop Wrote:
(02-28-2011, 09:39 AM)Gonzojoe Wrote: LC I'm wondering how much info LE would give to the families at this point?Do they keep in constant contact with them or do they just tell them new info as they receive it?Do they tell them anything at all?And would they tell someone that might be a little mentally unstable anything at all?

LE is likely not saying much about their evidence to family members. for various reasons. one of which would be integrity of investigation.

Yea thats what I thought.And that really sucks for the families.Getting someone in jail for this is really all that I would be thinking about at this point.I'd want to know everything the cops know.I'd probably be camped out at their offices!

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-28-2011

(02-27-2011, 10:51 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote: Glad I'm not the only one my nigga Smiley_emoticons_biggrin When I saw that amongst a few others I was like You have GOT to be shittin me LOL who thinks like that? What is the motivation for wanting it to be the mother of the deceased soooo fucking badly that every word that comes from her mouth is automaticly GUILTY & then makes excuses.... insane excuses for Tiffany. I just never, ever will get it, Even if Tiffany is found innocent in all of this which I highly doubt, even then I will never have respect for her for the way she's carried on & who she's shown herself to be & on that principal alone, I could never make excuses for her or attempt to convince people that she's an innocent or an upstanding citizen.

I haven't read anywhere here, that anyone thinks Tiffany is an upstanding person, LOL ... She's a piece of shit, IMO, but sometimes people really ARE 'in the wrong place at the wrong time' .. I think it's a possibility, in Tiffany's case. Would it surprise me if she's involved? NO, it wouldn't. I'm not here to see who can 'win' at figuring out this case. I don't think anyone here wants Maytee to be guilty; but would it surprise me if she's involved? NO, it wouldn't.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-28-2011

(02-27-2011, 11:56 PM)notsure Wrote: I need to make a correction to my above statment. after kitty1 said "The perps even took the heater/air conditioning vents off" it is clear that they were looking for money and it probably was a robbery gone bad. removing the vent covers is really beyond making it look like a robbery. there was a specific thing being sought.

I agree. There's no doubt in my mind the perps were looking for money or drugs!





RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-28-2011

(02-28-2011, 12:03 AM)pspence Wrote: That is very interesting about the vent covers off... looking for $$$ or drugs .....how scared those kids must have been...can't get it out of my mind what they went through...guess could have been a robbery and Johnny (built like a brick sh--house) went down fighting trying to protect his girl...bags over their heads so they wouldn't have to look at them...

yep! And if Johnny really was bragging about a non-existent safe, then the more the terror, HE must have felt. If the perps were demanding to know where this safe was, & Johnny knowing all along there wasn't one... well, I can't even imagine trying to tell them 'no, I was bullshittin', pleading at the same time. Really sad, if this was the caseSigns_173



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - kfran - 02-28-2011

(02-28-2011, 09:59 AM)Jane Wrote:
(02-28-2011, 08:07 AM)Lady Cop Wrote: have you all gone nuts??

posting and quoting facebook page of uninvolved /not-named person?? posting photos of minors?? WTF!! heads are going to roll! without further warning. 90

let's hope for some news today.

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THANK GOD!!!!! Some of this Facebook shit was getting downright boring!

Thank you LC! Smiley_emoticons_bussi
I posted about 400 fucking pages ago that people are going ape shit over Facebook "friends" for no reason! Just because someone is a friend of a friend of another ridonkulous friend doesn't mean SHIT! I've got "friends" on my FB that are fucktards I haven't talked to in 10 years. SO GET OVER IT ALREADY!

Some REAL information is needed at this point. Maybe LE is waiting for the criminals to get a little too comfortable, so the losers start talking & dig their own graves.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - aileen - 02-28-2011

Quote:If the Straubs are like the rest of us, they have a mortgage and are stuck where they are. A house in which a murder took place is hard to sell. Can you imagine trying to do it in a depressed market? They can't even cash out and move away. How could you cook in that kitchen where your daughter was tortured?! How could you sleep in a house where psychopathic killers have been? Memories are huge part of what make up our realities. I would have to leave and make new memories, far, far away - like New Zealand or something. I don't know how they're keeping their shit together.

Perhaps memories of happier times, such as Lisa and her sister growing up in that home, is a motivator for moving back. Obviously, this crime will always be with them, whether they stay there or move elsewhere...they will take every horrid detail with them for the rest of their lives :( I have a positive feeling the Straubs will get themselves, and their daughter, counseling to help them process the loss of Lisa, and help them gain their lives back little by little. Being back in the home may be step one on taking back their life and showing whoever did this that, although they broke their hearts by taking Lisa...they have not broken their spirit. I send them prayers of strength...what a tough road they have to travel! :(




RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-28-2011

LOCALS!!! Where are you?? What's the word on the streets??? Hoping to see some posts by any of you, when I get home this evening! Layta!

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - notsure - 02-28-2011



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Read Unknown posts. He’s spot on a lot of things. Did you catch the duct work? I had heard that early on.
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not to mention the grieving friend post. I did see unknown's mention of bed bath & beyond, and someone in... was it home improvement? renovations? duct work? I still not sure what that means, unless it is simply an obvious comment directed to the duct tape used at the homicide? what did you think that meant?

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - aileen - 02-28-2011

(02-28-2011, 10:51 AM)Jane Wrote: LOCALS!!! Where are you?? What's the word on the streets??? Hoping to see some posts by any of you, when I get home this evening! Layta!


Local here, but no where near *the streets* to hear any rumors. And major news for us has been, will we or won't we flood?! Before that, it was how much snow was coming. Very hush hush on this case, even with the press/media now. No ones reporting anything!