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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - efyou - 02-08-2011 (02-08-2011, 11:23 PM)Mommabear Wrote:(02-08-2011, 11:15 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: Then the mother needs to quit blaming LE for not going in when she I know in this day and age many homes have security cameras all around their home. Some looking from the garage out their driveway and towards the street. Also many have camera right at the front door looking outwards towards the street. (I'm a courier and walking up to homes all day I notice these things) I'm sure LE has inquired about this around the neighborhood? Or any neighbors that have cameras have come forward with that info? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - IMaDick - 02-08-2011 (02-08-2011, 11:16 PM)Countryside_Belle Wrote: Ok, regarding time of death, if they were "cold" as JC's mom describes it in the 911 call, they must have been gone for at least 2, if not 3 hours....just my opinion from dealings with recently dead folk in my profession. (Not trying to freak you out, it's reality :/ ) Bodies cool at differnt rates depending on the ambient room temps, we have no information on that , but the average is 70 to 75 degree's, it may take the body 6 to 7 hours to cool to the point that they would be cold to the touch. The telling factor would be rigor, and as far as I know that info has not been released either. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - TotallyCurious - 02-08-2011 Can LE subpoena communication that was made on JPay? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - lotusflower - 02-08-2011 Yes they are related....cousins I think RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - LabRat - 02-08-2011 I think the easiest way to get T to tell her side of the story.... bring in child protective services and have them investigate / take away her kids (I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to find a reason for the state to take custody). Then if she ever wants to see her children again she can tell LE what she knows about that night. If not, the kids will probably still be better off. IMO RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - notsure - 02-08-2011 that neighborhood is a maze of roads with multiple ways in and out and there is nothing "commerical" at these ins or outs. there is a few aptments in the area and a church though. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - MzFruit - 02-08-2011 (02-08-2011, 11:42 PM)LabRat Wrote: I think the easiest way to get T to tell her side of the story.... bring in child protective services and have them investigate / take away her kids (I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to find a reason for the state to take custody). Then if she ever wants to see her children again she can tell LE what she knows about that night. If not, the kids will probably still be better off. Her kids dont live with her. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ivanna - 02-08-2011 Didn't I read in the quotes from mother's TV appearance last night the statement she made about the family dog??? If that is truly a fact why would the killer(s) allow the family dog to live? Or was it dead as well and I missed that? Didn't JC mom say JC and LS were supposed to pick up Ms. T and they never came and with strange call in which JC supposedly said "what do you want...."? Causing Ms T and momma to become "concerned"? If I understood this correctly how it it Ms. T suddenly has been there in a car to see the place ransacked? Ms. T also picked up JC's father to take him to LS house? HHHMMMMM why would she need a ride then? Sorry if I sounded like I was speculating. Been reading these posts since Friday and these are the questions that still pop up in my head and I just wondered if anyone else has these questions or if I had misunderstood the quotes from the beginning. I in no way want to speculate, just follow along. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - RJs-Ex - 02-08-2011 (02-08-2011, 10:59 PM)jash Wrote: I briefly toyed with the idea of a gang "initiation" but I don't really think so...that's not really big around here, or at least murdering couples for initiation. Last "couples" murderers we had from here were the Cook brothers and they've been in prison a looong time. I think you're right about that. I'm just catching up, so this may have already been said, but, with her 3 kids already having 1 parent gone forever, you'd think keeping herself out of prison - for her kids' sake - would be a powerful motivator. The same thinking could probably also be applied to the baby on the way... RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - RJs-Ex - 02-08-2011 (02-08-2011, 11:45 PM)MzFruit Wrote:(02-08-2011, 11:42 PM)LabRat Wrote: I think the easiest way to get T to tell her side of the story.... bring in child protective services and have them investigate / take away her kids (I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to find a reason for the state to take custody). Then if she ever wants to see her children again she can tell LE what she knows about that night. If not, the kids will probably still be better off. Why the hell am I not surprised?!? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - MzFruit - 02-08-2011 I wonder why we still havent heard about DNA results. How LONG can it take and if they come back with nothing are they going to say that. Or will the case go cold.....????? I was sure Tiff has played a role in this....what I cant figure out is if she had a poly yesterday how is she still walking around? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - LabRat - 02-08-2011 (02-08-2011, 11:45 PM)MzFruit Wrote:(02-08-2011, 11:42 PM)LabRat Wrote: I think the easiest way to get T to tell her side of the story.... bring in child protective services and have them investigate / take away her kids (I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to find a reason for the state to take custody). Then if she ever wants to see her children again she can tell LE what she knows about that night. If not, the kids will probably still be better off. hmm well scratch that then... who has custody?? and WTF is the bitch doing getting pregnant again if you already have 3 fucking kids you don't have custody of ?!? Ugh.... what a world we live in RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - notsure - 02-08-2011 oh yea and a smaller church and the new elementary school. school is a good bet RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ivanna - 02-08-2011 (02-08-2011, 11:49 PM)LabRat Wrote:(02-08-2011, 11:45 PM)MzFruit Wrote:(02-08-2011, 11:42 PM)LabRat Wrote: I think the easiest way to get T to tell her side of the story.... bring in child protective services and have them investigate / take away her kids (I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to find a reason for the state to take custody). Then if she ever wants to see her children again she can tell LE what she knows about that night. If not, the kids will probably still be better off. And the world wonders why we want to force some of these people to have tubal ligations....... RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - MzFruit - 02-09-2011 (02-08-2011, 11:52 PM)ivanna Wrote:(02-08-2011, 11:49 PM)LabRat Wrote:(02-08-2011, 11:45 PM)MzFruit Wrote:(02-08-2011, 11:42 PM)LabRat Wrote: I think the easiest way to get T to tell her side of the story.... bring in child protective services and have them investigate / take away her kids (I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to find a reason for the state to take custody). Then if she ever wants to see her children again she can tell LE what she knows about that night. If not, the kids will probably still be better off. I know right! RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - LabRat - 02-09-2011 I really wish I had ANY faith in the Toledo Police Dept. at all... I guarantee when I get off work tonight there will be 3 marked police cars sitting at their usual Speedway here on the south side, I'm sure they already have all the information they need on this case so no need to do any real investigative work.... I would bet that most of us on this forum know more than some of the officers working the case. Last year Toledo had 11 murders unsolved out of 26 total... that's a 58% solve rate, or 42% of the murders remain unsolved.... not very good chance that this one will be solved IMHO. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - MzFruit - 02-09-2011 (02-09-2011, 12:07 AM)LabRat Wrote: I really wish I had ANY faith in the Toledo Police Dept. at all... I guarantee when I get off work tonight there will be 3 marked police cars sitting at their usual Speedway here on the south side, I'm sure they already have all the information they need on this case so no need to do any real investigative work.... I would bet that most of us on this forum know more than some of the officers working the case. Last year Toledo had 11 murders unsolved out of 26 total... that's a 58% solve rate, or 42% of the murders remain unsolved.... not very good chance that this one will be solved IMHO. My thoughts exactly!!! RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - lotusflower - 02-09-2011 (02-09-2011, 12:09 AM)MzFruit Wrote:ditto(02-09-2011, 12:07 AM)LabRat Wrote: I really wish I had ANY faith in the Toledo Police Dept. at all... I guarantee when I get off work tonight there will be 3 marked police cars sitting at their usual Speedway here on the south side, I'm sure they already have all the information they need on this case so no need to do any real investigative work.... I would bet that most of us on this forum know more than some of the officers working the case. Last year Toledo had 11 murders unsolved out of 26 total... that's a 58% solve rate, or 42% of the murders remain unsolved.... not very good chance that this one will be solved IMHO. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Mommabear - 02-09-2011 (02-09-2011, 12:09 AM)MzFruit Wrote:(02-09-2011, 12:07 AM)LabRat Wrote: I really wish I had ANY faith in the Toledo Police Dept. at all... I guarantee when I get off work tonight there will be 3 marked police cars sitting at their usual Speedway here on the south side, I'm sure they already have all the information they need on this case so no need to do any real investigative work.... I would bet that most of us on this forum know more than some of the officers working the case. Last year Toledo had 11 murders unsolved out of 26 total... that's a 58% solve rate, or 42% of the murders remain unsolved.... not very good chance that this one will be solved IMHO. Isn't Holland OH police Department handling this. That is where the crime took place, not Toledo. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - lotusflower - 02-09-2011 (02-09-2011, 12:13 AM)Mommabear Wrote:(02-09-2011, 12:09 AM)MzFruit Wrote:(02-09-2011, 12:07 AM)LabRat Wrote: I really wish I had ANY faith in the Toledo Police Dept. at all... I guarantee when I get off work tonight there will be 3 marked police cars sitting at their usual Speedway here on the south side, I'm sure they already have all the information they need on this case so no need to do any real investigative work.... I would bet that most of us on this forum know more than some of the officers working the case. Last year Toledo had 11 murders unsolved out of 26 total... that's a 58% solve rate, or 42% of the murders remain unsolved.... not very good chance that this one will be solved IMHO. That's even worse~ |