(03-08-2011, 06:20 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:

(03-08-2011, 06:05 PM)kfran Wrote: As in, all local stores are saying they haven't sold duct tape in X amount of months? Maybe LE needs to ask, "Has anyone stolen duct tape from your store?"

I'm not getting this either. No one bought any duct tape, what so ever, anytime around the murders? Not that it really means anything, they could have taken it from their own home. I just find it hard to believe but maybe that's because about a week ago I bought 10 rolls of the shit

(03-08-2011, 06:25 PM)Jane Wrote: I still say MAYBE Lisa was arrested, as a juvenile, for some weed, or paraphernalia. If that's the case, no one will find those records. From what I understand, juvenile records are not open to the public.

(03-08-2011, 05:40 PM)kitty1 Wrote: I may have mentioned this before but the police have checked out all the local places for duct tape sales. No luck

(03-08-2011, 06:43 PM)purplepegasus Wrote: I was also told by someone who lives in the neighborhood that they saw the kind of people that would hang out at lisa's and they aren't scared at all that this is something that could happen to them. I feel bad that these kids got themselves caught up in such a lifestyle.

(03-08-2011, 06:37 PM)Jane Wrote: I don't know about anyone else, but I think Sgt Schiavone knew what he was talking about, during that meeting with the Holland residents. My guess is, he went over the line, with what he knew about the case, & therefore the Sheriff had to cover his ass, or else it would look like 'tunnel vision', OR it would make residents feel like LE doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground, type thing, as in they don't have a clue what happened. If you think about it, that's pretty much what the Sgt made it sound like, with "the perps have probably left the area" , etc..... leaving it too cut & dry. I know I'm not wording this all right, but in MY mind, I know what I'm talking about, LOL. You have to remember, the Sgt knows how the crime scene looked, knows what all the interviews consisted of, etc ... There's a reason he stated everything he stated to those residents, & I don't think it was ONLY to make them feel safe. jmo

(03-08-2011, 06:05 PM)Jane Wrote: ... most everyone here has sympathy for Maytee. I lost all sympathy for her, over 2 weeks ago, but most everyone here feels bad for her.

(03-08-2011, 06:44 PM)Jane Wrote:

(03-08-2011, 06:41 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote: Its possible thats what Maytee wants to hear. She is looking to vent and this gives her the opportunity and excuse to be unreasonable. IMHO Maytee dosen't want to BE reasonable. So her "friends" are feeding into her torment. They should just leave her alone. I know if I experienced what she has I would want to be left alone to try to heal.

We see eye to eye on this, pretty much, Zero!

(03-08-2011, 07:07 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:

(03-08-2011, 06:05 PM)Jane Wrote: ... most everyone here has sympathy for Maytee. I lost all sympathy for her, over 2 weeks ago, but most everyone here feels bad for her.

I have great sympathy for her....Its the VooDoo rants that are a problem. If she came on Mock I know she would FEEL that sympathy and it may help her. I bet that would rekindle yours too Jane.

(03-08-2011, 07:07 PM)aileen Wrote: I will tell you honestly, since this crime, I normally have all my plastic grocery bags stuffed into a baggy keeper(for lack of a better name) which hangs on a cabinet door in my kitchen. Since this happened, I kept getting a sick/creepy feeling whenever I would grab one out. I thought to myself...I shouldn't keep these out like this!! And then I HID my duct tape! lol Am I the only one who now finds these items unsettling to have in their home??? Or am I just losing it....

(03-08-2011, 07:03 PM)Methusala Wrote:

(03-08-2011, 06:43 PM)purplepegasus Wrote: I was also told by someone who lives in the neighborhood that they saw the kind of people that would hang out at lisa's and they aren't scared at all that this is something that could happen to them. I feel bad that these kids got themselves caught up in such a lifestyle.

Could you please clarify - are you saying that the neighbors are not in fear because the people who "would hang out at Lisa's" were not scary?;

or are you saying that the neighbors thought that the people who "would hang out at Lisa's" were scary, and that they are now not in fear because they don't think those people will come around any more now that she is dead?

(03-08-2011, 07:07 PM)aileen Wrote: I will tell you honestly, since this crime, I normally have all my plastic grocery bags stuffed into a baggy keeper(for lack of a better name) which hangs on a cabinet door in my kitchen. Since this happened, I kept getting a sick/creepy feeling whenever I would grab one out. I thought to myself...I shouldn't keep these out like this!! And then I HID my duct tape! lol Am I the only one who now finds these items unsettling to have in their home??? Or am I just losing it....

(03-08-2011, 06:35 PM)NightOwl Wrote:

(03-08-2011, 06:01 PM)Jane Wrote:

(03-08-2011, 05:40 PM)kitty1 Wrote: I may have mentioned this before but the police have checked out all the local places for duct tape sales. No luck

Thanks for the info, Kitty! I don't remember you mentioning this before now.

Thanks Kitty! Maybe this bastard uses the tape on his job.

(03-08-2011, 07:17 PM)purplepegasus Wrote:

(03-08-2011, 07:03 PM)Methusala Wrote:

(03-08-2011, 06:43 PM)purplepegasus Wrote: I was also told by someone who lives in the neighborhood that they saw the kind of people that would hang out at lisa's and they aren't scared at all that this is something that could happen to them. I feel bad that these kids got themselves caught up in such a lifestyle.

Could you please clarify - are you saying that the neighbors are not in fear because the people who "would hang out at Lisa's" were not scary?;

or are you saying that the neighbors thought that the people who "would hang out at Lisa's" were scary, and that they are now not in fear because they don't think those people will come around any more now that she is dead?

Sorry about that. They said the type of people that hung around were pretty shady and that they heard he was in a gang, although I know Maytee refutes that. What they were getting at was they don't keep this type of company, so they don't feel as if they are in danger.

(03-08-2011, 07:19 PM)purplepegasus Wrote: I'm kind of feeling like I type in invisible ink...lol I mentioned about 3 posts before kitty that I knew for a fact that home depot and menards were both asked to turn in their duct tape sales records. As to other businesses in the area, I have no clue, all I know are those 2 for fact. I suppose those didn't turn up anything but there were DEFINITELY duct tape sales in the area.

(03-08-2011, 07:22 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:

(03-08-2011, 07:17 PM)purplepegasus Wrote:

(03-08-2011, 07:03 PM)Methusala Wrote:

(03-08-2011, 06:43 PM)purplepegasus Wrote: I was also told by someone who lives in the neighborhood that they saw the kind of people that would hang out at lisa's and they aren't scared at all that this is something that could happen to them. I feel bad that these kids got themselves caught up in such a lifestyle.

Could you please clarify - are you saying that the neighbors are not in fear because the people who "would hang out at Lisa's" were not scary?;

or are you saying that the neighbors thought that the people who "would hang out at Lisa's" were scary, and that they are now not in fear because they don't think those people will come around any more now that she is dead?

Sorry about that. They said the type of people that hung around were pretty shady and that they heard he was in a gang, although I know Maytee refutes that. What they were getting at was they don't keep this type of company, so they don't feel as if they are in danger.

Did their neighbor say WHEN these shady people hung around there? Was it the whole time Johnny lived there or only after Lisa's parents went on holiday?

(03-08-2011, 06:37 PM)Jane Wrote: I don't know about anyone else, but I think Sgt Schiavone knew what he was talking about, during that meeting with the Holland residents. My guess is, he went over the line, with what he knew about the case, & therefore the Sheriff had to cover his ass, or else it would look like 'tunnel vision', OR it would make residents feel like LE doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground, type thing, as in they don't have a clue what happened. If you think about it, that's pretty much what the Sgt made it sound like, with "the perps have probably left the area" , etc..... leaving it too cut & dry. I know I'm not wording this all right, but in MY mind, I know what I'm talking about, LOL. You have to remember, the Sgt knows how the crime scene looked, knows what all the interviews consisted of, etc ... There's a reason he stated everything he stated to those residents, & I don't think it was ONLY to make them feel safe. jmo

(03-08-2011, 07:22 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:

(03-08-2011, 07:17 PM)purplepegasus Wrote:

(03-08-2011, 07:03 PM)Methusala Wrote:

(03-08-2011, 06:43 PM)purplepegasus Wrote: I was also told by someone who lives in the neighborhood that they saw the kind of people that would hang out at lisa's and they aren't scared at all that this is something that could happen to them. I feel bad that these kids got themselves caught up in such a lifestyle.

Could you please clarify - are you saying that the neighbors are not in fear because the people who "would hang out at Lisa's" were not scary?;

or are you saying that the neighbors thought that the people who "would hang out at Lisa's" were scary, and that they are now not in fear because they don't think those people will come around any more now that she is dead?

Sorry about that. They said the type of people that hung around were pretty shady and that they heard he was in a gang, although I know Maytee refutes that. What they were getting at was they don't keep this type of company, so they don't feel as if they are in danger.

Did their neighbor say WHEN these shady people hung around there? Was it the whole time Johnny lived there or only after Lisa's parents went on holiday?