(03-09-2011, 01:02 AM)fabulous Wrote:

(03-09-2011, 12:58 AM)Freshbait78 Wrote:

(03-09-2011, 12:49 AM)fabulous Wrote: but I must have missed something...what did the friend of the detective say?

I'll say it again just so I don't get shit for being a hypocrite lol This is 3^rd party info The friend of the detective told my brother pretty much what others who claim to have insider info have stated. DC comes to mind off the top of my head, that Lisas condition was worse than what was officially stated. This is where the tongue cutting or cut out came from & also he told my brother that she was sexually assaulted. I can't bring myself to use the word rape. Especially if I don't know for certain if it's true.

I know there have been some people who keep talking about the knives that were seized as evidence & the assumption that JC or LS must have stabbed one of the perps. I haven't argued this but if true that Lisa had cuts or her tongue was cut out... This may be why the knives were taken into evidence. This may also indicate that any blood found in the house may not belong to the perps at all.

ok..thanks for repeating AGAIN..sorry..I had read that before.

(03-09-2011, 12:15 AM)FutileResistance Wrote: THANKS, to LC for defending the men and women who serve and protect all of our communities daily. I think those of us related to members in law enforcement were quietly stewing at the consistent, and grossly reckless opinions being stated about law enforcement as a whole. Especially the misinformation being put out their in reference to local officers who are working hard to solve this horrific crime that we all are discussing. Granted, there are bad apples in every occupation but this is magnified when it deals with law enforcement but has absolutely nothing to do with this case. Because these men and women are held to a higher standard within our communities. I believe with the recent press release, it is obvious to surmise that this Sergeant spoke on behalf of himself and was out of line (A Bad Apple). He obviously did not speak for those who are involved in this case or even had any pertinent information that was factual. His remarks not only damaged his department, but likely infuriated and hurt the families. It is apparent he stands alone with his irresponsible remarks. Happy retirement!

We have an innate curiosity as to this case, which fuels our minds with theories so that speculation and possible facts may create better picture of this trivial puzzle. We (the general public) are not entitled to every bit of information/evidence gathered by detectives during an ongoing investigation. I think we can all agree that there is a lot more, that we all do not know in terms of evidence. Which I am totally fine with, because it only assists the cause of law enforcement to do their jobs without any hindrance. The only people who have the true “inside scoop” are investigators who are working on the case. Which should really worry the uneducated low life’s who committed this crime. Not making consistent public statements proves to me that these officers are working hard to solve this case, and not worried about their 15 minutes of fame. I respect that as much as I do the family who has taken the high road in this case!

As for the hysterical rants of someone accusing this forum of undermining justice for these victims on another site. I beg to differ with that irrational opinion. For the most part, I believe this forum has been a productive resource for many of us. It is obvious that many members who have participated in this discussion (except for a few) take great care in respecting the nature of this investigation, the victims, and their families. The occasional joke is okay to relieve a little tension or monotony as well. We all need the break from the chaos.

I have yet to see someone on Mock go into an irrational tirade about vengeance or bluntly make false accusations against innocent persons who may or not may be involved in this particular crime. There has been more than a fair amount of neutral behavior and respect as to facts over drama. Public records speak for themselves! The grass is definitely greener on Mock that it is on those ridiculous facebook pages begging for attention and making invalid threats instead of focusing on their false claims of wanting justice!

(03-09-2011, 12:38 AM)notsure Wrote:

(03-09-2011, 12:03 AM)kitty1 Wrote:

Really kitty1? did you have to do the 180 on your avatar?

(03-08-2011, 08:36 PM)Methusala Wrote: … if the Sheriff's Office is ever successful in putting together a case which can hold water in the eyes of the Lucas County Prosecutor's Office, which handles all felony cases for the entire county of both incorporated and incorporated areas, then we will be able to look forward to an able prosecution.

Julia Bates is a tough and competent Prosecutor, and in the early years of her first term, she was successful in re-opening and prosecuting many cold, and sometimes bizarre, homicide cases to successful conclusions, convictions and imprisonment or execution.

(03-08-2011, 07:26 PM)JustSayin... Wrote: They spend a lot of time at their cottage. Lisa's friends could have been around then I suppose.

(03-09-2011, 01:09 AM)kitty1 Wrote:

(03-09-2011, 01:12 AM)kitty1 Wrote:

(03-09-2011, 12:38 AM)notsure Wrote:

(03-09-2011, 12:03 AM)kitty1 Wrote:

Really kitty1? did you have to do the 180 on your avatar?

You like??? I couldn't help myself. This is the real me i was bored and looking at avatars. I about pissed my pants when i saw this!!!

(03-08-2011, 07:40 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:

(03-08-2011, 06:49 PM)onefortheroad Wrote: No disrespect to the victims, but it sounds like you and Red Green might have something in common, Freshbait. In case you haven't heard of him before, he's a huge fan of duct tape

LOL thanks for the video, I had not heard of Red Green but we could probably be friends

I found ZEBRA striped duct tape at Walmart. I'm wallpapering my bathroom with it LOL I'll post pictures when I'm done (you can't even tell it's tape). Obviously duct tape doesn't give me the heevey geevies.... but I do look at it a little differently now.

(03-09-2011, 01:43 AM)NightOwl Wrote:

(03-08-2011, 07:40 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:

(03-08-2011, 06:49 PM)onefortheroad Wrote: No disrespect to the victims, but it sounds like you and Red Green might have something in common, Freshbait. In case you haven't heard of him before, he's a huge fan of duct tape

LOL thanks for the video, I had not heard of Red Green but we could probably be friends

I found ZEBRA striped duct tape at Walmart. I'm wallpapering my bathroom with it LOL I'll post pictures when I'm done (you can't even tell it's tape). Obviously duct tape doesn't give me the heevey geevies.... but I do look at it a little differently now.

Glad to hear you are not afraid of duct tape LOL ZEBRA everything is hot right now. Good for you!

(03-08-2011, 09:15 PM)curious Wrote:

(03-08-2011, 09:01 PM)Jane Wrote:

(03-08-2011, 07:07 PM)aileen Wrote: I will tell you honestly, since this crime, I normally have all my plastic grocery bags stuffed into a baggy keeper(for lack of a better name) which hangs on a cabinet door in my kitchen. Since this happened, I kept getting a sick/creepy feeling whenever I would grab one out. I thought to myself...I shouldn't keep these out like this!! And then I HID my duct tape! lol Am I the only one who now finds these items unsettling to have in their home??? Or am I just losing it....

Puts a new perspective to "would you prefer paper or plastic"...

(03-08-2011, 03:07 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:

(03-08-2011, 02:59 PM)purplepegasus Wrote: I thought she was a witch? Catholics don't talk that crap she spews all over facebook. Good point about one being in a picture though, it's just such an odd description. A rope with beads. I'd think she'd be familiar with mardi gras beads too.

I agree but you know on her posts one minute she's telling people to swallow their tongues & the next she's blessing people so she may have been catholic at one time & just not practicing now or..... who knows? I agree also that most people would know what Mardi Gras beads are & describe them as such, which is why I think there's a possibility that maybe it was actually one of those bracelets or necklaces made of hemp rope that often times have beads on them. I would describe that as beads on a rope. It would also probably be easier to wrap hemp rope around a statue multiple times as opposed to mardi gras beads.

(03-09-2011, 12:15 AM)FutileResistance Wrote: THANKS, to LC for defending the men and women who serve and protect all of our communities daily. I think those of us related to members in law enforcement were quietly stewing at the consistent, and grossly reckless opinions being stated about law enforcement as a whole. Especially the misinformation being put out their in reference to local officers who are working hard to solve this horrific crime that we all are discussing. Granted, there are bad apples in every occupation but this is magnified when it deals with law enforcement but has absolutely nothing to do with this case. Because these men and women are held to a higher standard within our communities. I believe with the recent press release, it is obvious to surmise that this Sergeant spoke on behalf of himself and was out of line (A Bad Apple). He obviously did not speak for those who are involved in this case or even had any pertinent information that was factual. His remarks not only damaged his department, but likely infuriated and hurt the families. It is apparent he stands alone with his irresponsible remarks. Happy retirement!

We have an innate curiosity as to this case, which fuels our minds with theories so that speculation and possible facts may create better picture of this trivial puzzle. We (the general public) are not entitled to every bit of information/evidence gathered by detectives during an ongoing investigation. I think we can all agree that there is a lot more, that we all do not know in terms of evidence. Which I am totally fine with, because it only assists the cause of law enforcement to do their jobs without any hindrance. The only people who have the true “inside scoop” are investigators who are working on the case. Which should really worry the uneducated low life’s who committed this crime. Not making consistent public statements proves to me that these officers are working hard to solve this case, and not worried about their 15 minutes of fame. I respect that as much as I do the family who has taken the high road in this case!

As for the hysterical rants of someone accusing this forum of undermining justice for these victims on another site. I beg to differ with that irrational opinion. For the most part, I believe this forum has been a productive resource for many of us. It is obvious that many members who have participated in this discussion (except for a few) take great care in respecting the nature of this investigation, the victims, and their families. The occasional joke is okay to relieve a little tension or monotony as well. We all need the break from the chaos.

I have yet to see someone on Mock go into an irrational tirade about vengeance or bluntly make false accusations against innocent persons who may or not may be involved in this particular crime. There has been more than a fair amount of neutral behavior and respect as to facts over drama. Public records speak for themselves! The grass is definitely greener on Mock that it is on those ridiculous facebook pages begging for attention and making invalid threats instead of focusing on their false claims of wanting justice!

(03-09-2011, 09:30 AM)Wish.I.was.a.P.I Wrote: In regards to Lisa possibly being sexually assaulted, I'm a little confused. I thought that Lisa's uncle said in a previous article/interview that she was still in her work uniform? If this is the case, then how was she assaulted? Did they put her clothes back on? I understand that this is all hearsay but it's been discussed more than once so it appears one of these scenarios just simply can't be correct.

(03-09-2011, 09:30 AM)Wish.I.was.a.P.I Wrote: In regards to Lisa possibly being sexually assaulted, I'm a little confused. I thought that Lisa's uncle said in a previous article/interview that she was still in her work uniform? If this is the case, then how was she assaulted? Did they put her clothes back on? I understand that this is all hearsay but it's been discussed more than once so it appears one of these scenarios just simply can't be correct.