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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - aileen - 03-09-2011 I was just thinking, in regards to the duct tape: I wonder if companies keep track of skew numbers when packaging products to be delivered to store/companies? So say, a dozen rolls of duct tape with skew #'s 99963-99975 were delivered to Menards on 10/24/10??? Then contact the store with date of delivery and have them pull up records with that info??? Of course, I would like to think that LE has thought of this to help narrow down their search! I would assume the roll they found at the scene would have the skew # and Product Brand. I may just be grabbing at straws here but most of these 800+ pages have been a lot of the same...BUT WE ALL HAVE GOOD INTENTIONS!!! RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - JsMom - 03-09-2011 (03-09-2011, 12:47 PM)kitty1 Wrote:(03-09-2011, 09:45 AM)JsMom Wrote:(03-09-2011, 09:30 AM)Wish.I.was.a.P.I Wrote: In regards to Lisa possibly being sexually assaulted, I'm a little confused. I thought that Lisa's uncle said in a previous article/interview that she was still in her work uniform? If this is the case, then how was she assaulted? Did they put her clothes back on? I understand that this is all hearsay but it's been discussed more than once so it appears one of these scenarios just simply can't be correct. o on i thought u said it was blood not semen! sorry RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - DickTracy - 03-09-2011 (03-09-2011, 12:52 PM)kitty1 Wrote:(03-09-2011, 10:23 AM)Freshbait78 Wrote:(03-09-2011, 10:10 AM)DickTracy Wrote: I was told ....Lisa's shirt was off, but she was not sexually assaulted. The person who told me, is a relative of Lisa's. I don't think this person is lying, but there has been so many conflicting stories. I agree with LC, we won't find out the truth until there is a trial. Good 4 U!! Everything has been discuss numerous times! The comment that I made in bold is something I was told a few days ago. It is rude of people to keep sending pm to find out info. People need to lay off and respect what kitty has politely asked of all of us. Geezzzzzzzz RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - JsMom - 03-09-2011 (03-09-2011, 12:51 PM)mamabear Wrote: I just wanted to add, since I haven't read it yet on this thread, has anyone noticed Lisa's new "badge" on myspace? If Tiffany is telling the truth, which everyone doubts, she was on the phone with Johnny around 11 pm 1/30. So, if she heard a commotion at that time, how did Lisa earn a profile searching badge on 1/31? I have to admit, I am not very familiar with myspace, so I am not sure if it posts automatically or not. But still, someone should have seen that. OMG! GOOD ONE! ILL BE DAMNED! GOOD EYE! I HAVE NOT SEEN ANYONE BRING THAT UP! SO NOW IM REALLY QUESTIONING THE TIMELINE! ALSO ARE U SURE THAT WAS IN 2011?? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - pfifltrigg - 03-09-2011 no offense jsmom, but could you please lay off the exclamation points. they kind of lose their power when they end every single sentence that you post. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - JsMom - 03-09-2011 (03-09-2011, 01:51 PM)pfifltrigg Wrote: no offense jsmom, but could you please lay off the exclamation points. they kind of lose their power when they end every single sentence that you post. my bad no offense taken RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - WolfHouse - 03-09-2011 I began rereading the forum and got about half way through. All I can say is that I am totally confused as to the facts now. I have read blood, no blood, Lisa's blood, others' blood, others' DNA, only Lisa's DNA, lots of blood, only a puddle of blood, House disturbed, house trashed, etc. etc. etc. Since I do not know who are the most credible posters, it has been difficult to sort out what is the closest truth from mere speculation. Is there a way people in the know could make a list of the actual things we think are probably true? (Disallowing all the nonsense from the Holland meeting.) He could have been posturing or he could have simply been telling what he knows. That is certainly a topic for a different post. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - curious - 03-09-2011 (03-09-2011, 02:10 PM)WolfHouse Wrote: I began rereading the forum and got about half way through. All Links and Facts Only http://mockforums.net/thread-4892.html RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - heartbreaker6713 - 03-09-2011 http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2011/03/08/Report-on-2-deaths-disputed.html Two weeks after a Lucas County sheriff's sergeant told Springfield Township trustees the Jan. 31 slayings of a young couple were a professional hit and not a random robbery, a family member of one of the victims is presenting the family's side of the story. James Verbosky, spokesman for the family of homicide victim Lisa Straub, said Sgt. James Schiavone made a number of comments at the trustees' Feb. 21 meeting that were speculative or inaccurate. Among them, Sergeant Schiavone said the deaths of Miss Straub, 20, and her boyfriend, Johnny S. Clarke, 21, were "professional" hits, that both victims had "serious drug problems, gang connections, and everything else," and that he would be surprised if those responsible for the slayings were ever arrested. "It's just irresponsible," Mr. Verbosky said. "His comments were so misleading. For somebody with 30 years of service, he should know he shouldn't be up there speculating. Everybody's speculating right now." The young couple were found in the Longacre Lane home of Miss Straub's parents with plastic bags over their heads and their hands bound with duct tape. Parts of the house had been ransacked, causing investigators to suspect the killers were looking for something. Monday, the Lucas County Sheriff's Office said in a news release the homicide investigation was continuing although no arrests have been made. "As of this date, the investigation leads officers to believe this was not a random act of violence," the release stated. "We believe that these individuals were targeted. "The motive for this crime is unknown at this time. We also do not believe that this was a 'professional hit.' " The latter statement appears to refer to the comment Sergeant Schiavone made to township trustees, although investigators with the sheriff's office did not return phone calls seeking comment Monday. Mr. Verbosky addressed Springfield Township trustees at their regular meeting Monday night, asking them to strike from the public record the comments Sergeant Schiavone's made at their Feb. 21 meeting. Mr. Verbosky said the trustees agreed to attach his rebuttal to the record of last month's meeting so his concerns would be part of the document should a public-records request be made. "We felt it was necessary to correct the record," he said afterward. Township Administrator Leslie Kohli said the township could not legally delete the comments from a recording of the meeting, although the statements made by Sergeant Schiavone that offended the Straub family would not be included in the written minutes of the meeting. "I don't think Sergeant Schiavone meant to be derogatory toward the kids. I just think he wasn't necessarily thinking about how what he said sounded," Ms. Kohli said. She said Sergeant Schiavone, who recently retired, was assigned to Springfield Township by the sheriff's office and typically gave the trustees monthly reports about area crime and enforcement activity. Mr. Verbosky said Ms. Straub's parents, Jeff and MaryBeth Straub, were upset by the comments, which were reported in the Holland-Springfield Journal. The sergeant told trustees that Ms. Straub had been arrested five times, including four times for "drug-related charges" -- a statement Mr. Verbosky said isn't true. "She had a DUI when she was 18, and she had a criminal mischief when she was under 18," Mr. Verbosky, her uncle, said. He said her family had no reason to believe Ms. Straub had "gang connections." Her parents, who were on a Caribbean cruise when their daughter was killed, would never have left if they felt her life was in danger, Mr. Verbosky said. He said a reward fund started by the Straub family at Fifth Third Bank branches has grown to $17,000. He said they plan to "cap" it at $20,000, adding that he thinks it can help solve the case. "It's pretty much what Crime Stoppers is all about. Money talks, and times are tough right now," he said. "If somebody knows something we certainly would like for them to speak up." Recently, electronic billboards seeking assistance in finding the killers have been placed throughout the area by the FBI and Lamar Advertising. Anyone with information on the case is asked to call the sheriff's office at 419-213-4917 or the Crime Stopper hot line, 419-555-1212. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - notsure - 03-09-2011 (03-09-2011, 12:49 PM)AriGold Wrote:(03-09-2011, 12:24 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: KFran: it appears they did not leave their DNA all over the crime scene. they got it at a garage sale in south philly back in 1999? We can't point is we can't subpoena walmart's security videos to check it out. Or go to the evidence room and look at the brand of tape. Sorry, for being a dick but I've ran out of coffee RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - heartbreaker6713 - 03-09-2011 That's an article that came out yesterday stating that they also mispoke about lisa's previous record too. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ZEROSPHERES - 03-09-2011 http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?section=news/local&id=8000379&rss=rss-wtvg-article-8000379 In this video where LS uncle is interviewed, He says: "If we had any indication Lisa was in any grave danger...{pause, discomfort, hard swallow} , we certainly would have done something..." Wish I had Tanya Ryhmen Body Language Interpreter telling me what she was seeing. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - kitty1 - 03-09-2011 This specific thread DOES exist!!!! RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - WolfHouse - 03-09-2011 [/quote] they got it at a garage sale in south philly back in 1999? We can't point is we can't subpoena walmart's security videos to check it out. Or go to the evidence room and look at the brand of tape. Sorry, for being a dick but I've ran out of coffee [/quote] That is a million dollar question. They could have gotten it from Johnny's house or in FLorida or Detroit or Columbus. Unless there are finger prints which I doubt, the duck tape, is moot. IMHO RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ZEROSPHERES - 03-09-2011 (03-09-2011, 02:47 PM)WolfHouse Wrote: That is a million dollar question. They could have gotten it from Johnny's I disagree... The Duct Tape is vital to the investigation. Not because of where it was obtained as much as what it may have stuck to it and what that will reveal. Where it was purchased would be significant but appears impossible to uncover. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - onefortheroad - 03-09-2011 (03-09-2011, 01:55 AM)Freshbait78 Wrote:(03-09-2011, 01:43 AM)NightOwl Wrote:(03-08-2011, 07:40 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote: I found ZEBRA striped duct tape at Walmart. I'm wallpapering my bathroom with it LOL I'll post pictures when I'm done (you can't even tell it's tape). Obviously duct tape doesn't give me the heevey geevies.... but I do look at it a little differently now. Lucky girl, bet there aren't too many kids can say their mom's given them a zebra bathroom! And can't wait to see the pictures! RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - NightOwl - 03-09-2011 (03-09-2011, 02:40 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote: http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?section=news/local&id=8000379&rss=rss-wtvg-article-8000379 Tanya Ryhmen excellent idea Zero. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 03-09-2011 You guys could pick apart a grain of sand. I don't say that meanly. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - kfran - 03-09-2011 (03-09-2011, 12:47 PM)kitty1 Wrote:(03-09-2011, 09:45 AM)JsMom Wrote:(03-09-2011, 09:30 AM)Wish.I.was.a.P.I Wrote: In regards to Lisa possibly being sexually assaulted, I'm a little confused. I thought that Lisa's uncle said in a previous article/interview that she was still in her work uniform? If this is the case, then how was she assaulted? Did they put her clothes back on? I understand that this is all hearsay but it's been discussed more than once so it appears one of these scenarios just simply can't be correct. I'm hoping Lisa was able to claw the fuck out of one of the perps & the DNA was under her fingernails. BTW, Cute avatar kitty RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Adub - 03-09-2011 (03-09-2011, 04:01 PM)kfran Wrote:(03-09-2011, 12:47 PM)kitty1 Wrote:(03-09-2011, 09:45 AM)JsMom Wrote:(03-09-2011, 09:30 AM)Wish.I.was.a.P.I Wrote: In regards to Lisa possibly being sexually assaulted, I'm a little confused. I thought that Lisa's uncle said in a previous article/interview that she was still in her work uniform? If this is the case, then how was she assaulted? Did they put her clothes back on? I understand that this is all hearsay but it's been discussed more than once so it appears one of these scenarios just simply can't be correct. I am with you there, all the way. And if it is unknown DNA right now, so be it. At least it is a start. Maybe finger print evidence can tie in with the unknown DNA and get the ball rolling. |