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Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered
Quote:she is now changing the story?

Not by much.
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(02-12-2011, 12:32 AM)rotten_cotton Wrote: the justice page sure is getting intense!!!

"jus food for thought if u committed a murder or had anything to do with a murder would u implicate urself by callin the victims mother or anything of that sort?"

You would if you called to set up the victims and later wanted to establish a rationale.

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A G February 11 at 10:23pm Report
jus food for thought if u committed a murder or had anything to do with a murder would u implicate urself by callin the victims mother or anything of that sort? OH by the way my names AP and i am tiffany's boyfriend and i took a lie detecdtor test yesterday and passed it... jus a lil more gossip for ur petty azz

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LMAO! petty huh! did u ever think she might get u next? THATS MY POINT SHE DIDNT CALL THE MOTHER SO YAH SHE HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT!!!!!! U CREEP CAN STOP MESSAGING ME CUZ U 2 ARE NOTHING TO ME OR ANYONE ELSE! DONT JUSTIFY S*&% TO ME! and YAH U PASSED BUT SHE DIDNT! SHES PREGNANT REMEMBER! Just a few more MONTHS AND SHES NEXT FOR POLLY! DONT WASTE NO MORE OF UR TIME CUZ SOMEONE LIKE ME IS REAL! I DONT DEAL WITH PETTY A$$ PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!THANKS
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(02-12-2011, 12:34 AM)netsleuth Wrote:
Quote:she is now changing the story?

Not by much.

IMO if he did say "bro" he totally knew his killer. Possibly someone he had been hiding from?

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(02-12-2011, 12:37 AM)netsleuth Wrote:
(02-12-2011, 12:32 AM)rotten_cotton Wrote: the justice page sure is getting intense!!!

"jus food for thought if u committed a murder or had anything to do with a murder would u implicate urself by callin the victims mother or anything of that sort?"

You would if you called to set up the victims and later wanted to establish a rationale.
Correct. I agree. and Who would be stupid to even respond if you werent guilty. If I am understanding..this dude..it not the underage dude. as we all know, TW was sleeping around as in one post someone said she passed more around than mashed potatoes over the Thanksgiving Holiday. This girl TW, is using whomever she can to help her look innocent as we are know she is not...IMO of course.

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a friendly reminder... no direct accusations of murder regarding anyone until LE says it is so.

















































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Am I interpreting this correctly? Is this person saying T did not
call Johnny's mom? That would put an entirely different twist on
things.
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez At both of those skum her n boyfriend she already had her xboyfriend killed plus she has sex with the one she does pills with all the time and no polly results arent in yet but if wen they come in if he pass he prolly took xanax bars n percocets to try n stay calm they are fiends those two and is he forgettin all the dna you effin skum cowards they will not get away with murder rot in hell skum
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Jealousy pathetic low life trash will pay they are sewer trash n they will pay god will make sure they die do if i was tbem i would do tbe world a favor and hang themselves before demons feast on their heartless souls beleive me they will not get away with murder
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sorry I keep posting these comments but they are going to be deleted so I am coping and pasting as they come up
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Whooo...Maytee's on a roll tonight....!

from the Justice... FB comments:

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez: At both of those skum her n boyfriend she already had her xboyfriend killed plus she has sex with the one she does pills with all the time and no polly results arent in yet but if wen they come in if he pass he prolly took xanax bars n percocets to try n stay calm they are fiends those two and is he forgettin all the dna you effin skum cowards they will not get away with murder rot in hell skum
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez: Trust me she gots her day comong in hell n im going to enjoy demons devouring her every existance
16 minutes ago · 1 person

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez: Jealousy pathetic low life trash will pay they are sewer trash n they will pay god will make sure they die do if i was tbem i would do tbe world a favor and hang themselves before demons feast on their heartless souls beleive me they will not get away with murder
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The shit if flying tonite!

Justice FB page

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez I hate what they did to my babiboi n his love lisa they were good beautiful kids amd would not hurt anyone i cnt wait to see these demons caught n put to death then johnny n lisa can rest ;,,,,,(

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Thank you miranda n lindsay n karma will get those animals mark my words she knows it i told her that nite in her face

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez At both of those skum her n boyfriend she already had her xboyfriend killed plus she has sex with the one she does pills with all the time and no polly results arent in yet but if wen they come in if he pass he prolly took xanax bars n percocets to try n stay calm they are fiends those two and is he forgettin all the dna you effin skum cowards they will not get away with murder rot in hell skum

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Trust me she gots her day comong in hell n im going to enjoy demons devouring her every existance

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Jealousy pathetic low life trash will pay they are sewer trash n they will pay god will make sure they die do if i was tbem i would do tbe world a favor and hang themselves before demons feast on their heartless souls beleive me they will not get away with murder

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There is some important stuff in here, so sorry for the lengthy post.
Note in particular allegation that T was excused from taking polygraph because she is pregnant!?

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From now on, we MUST refer to the "girl" Johnny and Lisa were going to pick up as TW. If you use her name, your post will be deleted. Thanks
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Lindsay Hoban haha...well if that's the case he will be messaging awhole bunch of people then!!22:16 · 1 person


Miranda Rih Lavone Lamoreaux MESSAGE ME AND ILL FWD LINDSAY22:16


Lindsay Hoban wow..her own boyfriend ratted her out? or is this a legal action?22:19


Miranda Rih Lavone Lamoreaux AMEN JUSTICE22:19


Justice for Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub Here is the message he's sending people:

I feel you and everyone commenting on this case are very ignorant. Do u think you would display any type of feelings on a facebook page if the police were questioning you on a daily basis as if you we22:20


Lindsay Hoban yea we'll apologize when she's behind bars and can't see her kids!!!! And it's funny how she gets away with a detector just because of her being pregnant...smh22:20 · 4 people


Miranda Rih Lavone Lamoreaux MY RESPONSE TO HIM~Miranda Rih Lavone Lamoreaux February 11 at 8:56pm
well dont u think people would take it different if she did post things showing that it hurts her and sympathy for the family? I mean come on Bro! I dont wanna get ugly an22:22 · 1 person


Miranda Rih Lavone Lamoreaux ‎@ Carrie~even if it was THEY DIDNT DESERVE TO DIE! ya know22:23


Miranda Rih Lavone Lamoreaux Lindsay it is true they wont do a polly if ur pregnant and I THINK SHE KNEW THAT!22:25 · 1 person


Justice for Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub I'm sure she'll be more than happy to take her polygraph after the baby comes then. :-)22:32 · 5 people


Rhonda Anderson Mencl-Williams This is what he sent me... if you see where he put TW then he put her name.... I took the name out do to the request of the administrator...

February 11 at 7:52pm Report
I feel you are a very ignorant person to speak on things you know nothi22:35


Justice for Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub If your post was removed, it was for posting hearsay. We can't be gossiping about what the word is on the street if it defames Tina's and Johnny's character.

Johnny's mom is a very active participant on this page and we don't need to get her22:35 · 2 people


Miranda Rih Lavone Lamoreaux HES CLEAR (so he says) BUT SHE CANT TAKE THE TEST SO~WELL SEE IN A FEW MONTHS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!22:39


Debbie Erickson Williams Miranda: so sorry for your loss. Just wondering, are you related to Johnny? Family friend? You seem very close to the case.22:39


Rhonda Anderson Mencl-Williams agreed. I posted what he wrote to me. If you feel I should delete it or if you want to please do.22:40 · 1 person


Miranda Rih Lavone Lamoreaux ‎@ Debbie~THANKU SO MUCH AND NO I AM NOT EVEN A FRIEND BUT I LOST AND THIS HEINOUS ACT HAS ME SICNED AND I WILL KEEP UP WITH THIS CASE AND DO ALL I CAN UNTIL THOSE ^&*%^&(&Y* ROT~N~HELL22:43 · 1 person


Justice for Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub No, it wasn't you, Rhonda. Some posted what the word on the street is as to why Johnny and Lisa were murdered.22:43 · 3 people


Carrie Moore what ever the reason was they did not deserve this i went to school with lisa. at springfield. i do not know them personally but no one deserves this. so im lost who is this TW girl22:46 · 1 person


Miranda Rih Lavone Lamoreaux shes the one who waited 2 hrs to call police22:49


Justice for Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub TW is the girl who Johnny and Lisa were supposed to go pick up who called them and said not to come yet, to wait a bit and is the one who didn't call 911 immediately when she heard Johnny say, while she was talking with him on the cell phon22:49


Justice for Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub In other words, how would she know the house was ransacked when the police, who responded there twice, didn't see anything suspicious and when Johnny's dad went there, he had to boost someone up to look into the window to see the house was 22:51 · 2 people


Lindsay Hoban I'm just curious who made this page?22:51


Miranda Rih Lavone Lamoreaux JUSTICE DID22:52 · 1 person


Carrie Moore wow then yea i think TW has something to do with it. why would u say wait and wait so long to call the police. i really hope they catch whoever22:54 · 1 person


Justice for Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub I do not know anyone related to this case. I found out about it on Google News and was interested in following and discussing it so I made this page.22:54 · 1 person


Lindsay Hoban that was really nice of you..and VERY interesting about the whole TW knowing about the house being ransacked just driving by when the POLICE didn't even see TWICE!!!!22:56 · 2 people


Ashley Sierra Luben-Kincaid Miranda; I don't know you, but I am so very sorry for your loss. :'( My heart goes out to you & your family. Stay strong. Justice will be served. They cannot hide forever.22:57


Carrie Moore i wish so bad TW was not preg so she can be caught. was there no finger prints or anything22:57 · 2 people


Miranda Rih Lavone Lamoreaux THX ASHLEY and YES JUSTICE FOR JOHNNY AND LISA WILL PREVEIL22:59


Miranda Rih Lavone Lamoreaux ‎@ Carrie DNA has been sent out but nothing has come out YET!22:59


Miranda Rih Lavone Lamoreaux THANKS TO THOSE WHOM ARE SORRY FOR MY LOSS! MY LOSS COMPARES NOTHING TO THIS FAMILYS LOSS THO! If youd like to read my story U can just TYPE MY SONS NAME ON GOOGLE23:02


Carrie Moore whats ur sons name would like to read it23:03


Miranda Rih Lavone Lamoreaux THOSE OF YOU WHOM MIGHT WANNA READ MY STORY MESSAGE ME AND ILL GIVE YOU HIS NAME!!! DONT NEED TROLLS KNOWIN MY BUSINESS Smiley_emoticons_wink23:06 · 2 people


Miranda Rih Lavone Lamoreaux I CAN NOT WAIT TIL THESE MURDERERS ARE CAUGHT!!!!!!!!!! ugh!!!23:09


Miranda Rih Lavone Lamoreaux NOT AT ALL ABOUT TW~THANKS23:10


Miranda Rih Lavone Lamoreaux ‎@Amber u must not keep up with this page much~ON TO THE NEXT ONE23:12


Justice for Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub This page is for TW, Amber? This page is to DISCUSS this case, support Johnny's friends and family, etc. It is absolutely not a page for TW. How are you drawing that conclusion?23:14 · 1 person


Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Johnny actually said wat are u doin bro wat the f...... U doin here wat do u want...i got the first part mess up wen i was in distress and called 911 the first time and yes the girl is a hoodrat and do is the boyfriend they are strung out o23:18 · 5 people


Miranda Rih Lavone Lamoreaux I TOTALLY AGREE MAYTEE! THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNT HOW HE MESSAGED ME AND TRIED TO JUSTIFY ANYTHING TO ME CUZ I DONT BELIEVE SHIT HE HAS TO SAY OR HER!!!23:21


Lindsay Hoban Maytee...again I am so sorry for your loss...and I couldn't agree with you more...I hope they get to the bottom of this for your sake! And Johnny was extremely handsome...he is shining down on you and your family now! I'm sure he will lead you in the right direction to find these horrible .. they aren't even humans so idk what to even call them!23:21 · 1 person


Maytee La Cubana Vazquez You must be a friend of the hoodrat really????calm down you have no idea about our pain stay of this page u heartless person23:24 · 3 people


Maytee La Cubana Vazquez The comment was at amber you seem like you must be their friend or just a nosey unsympathetic person.... Hope u never have to feel my pain ;,,,,,,(23:26 · 1 person


Miranda Rih Lavone Lamoreaux Aaron Griffin February 11 at 10:23pm Report
jus food for thought if u committed a murder or had anything to do with a murder would u implicate urself by callin the victims mother or anything of that sort? OH by the way my names AP and i am t23:29


Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Thank you miranda n lindsay n karma will get those animals mark my words she knows it i told her that nite in her face23:30 · 1 person


Miranda Rih Lavone Lamoreaux I HOPE THEY DIE A SLOW TORTUREOUS PAINFUL SICKENING DEATH23:30


Miranda Rih Lavone Lamoreaux U R VERY WELCOME MAYTEE23:31


Lindsay Hoban no need to thank me maytee...i can't even begin to feel what you're feeling right now...it sickens me that this had to happen...and they will definately get theirs coming don't worry!! I'm surprised you didn't punch the trashbag when you saw her!!!!23:32 · 1 person


Maytee La Cubana Vazquez At both of those skum her n boyfriend she already had her xboyfriend killed plus she has sex with the one she does pills with all the time and no polly results arent in yet but if wen they come in if he pass he prolly took xanax bars n percocets to try n stay calm they are fiends those two and is he forgettin all the dna you effin skum cowards they will not get away with murder rot in hell skum23:35


Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Trust me she gots her day comong in hell n im going to enjoy demons devouring her every existance23:40

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lol! looks like we're all posting and pasting at the same time!
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i've been reading there too, and i just keep thinking she's going to bury her son in the morning. she's not in her right mind.

but it's OK to post them, because she is making these comments public and wants them heard.

















































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Do we know when T called S? After listening to the 911 again, it
sounds like T called S.....how long did it take S to call Johnny's mom.
It is odd that T does not seem as hysterical as mom - who brings
up abduction, etc. - foul play - first.
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(02-12-2011, 12:54 AM)Mommabear Wrote: Maytee La Cubana Vazquez At both of those skum her n boyfriend she already had her xboyfriend killed plus she has sex with the one she does pills with all the time and no polly results arent in yet but if wen they come in if he pass he prolly took xanax bars n percocets to try n stay calm they are fiends those two and is he forgettin all the dna you effin skum cowards they will not get away with murder rot in hell skum
16 minutes ago · 2 people

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Jealousy pathetic low life trash will pay they are sewer trash n they will pay god will make sure they die do if i was tbem i would do tbe world a favor and hang themselves before demons feast on their heartless souls beleive me they will not get away with murder
9 minutes ago · 2 people

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sorry I keep posting these comments but they are going to be deleted so I am coping and pasting as they come up
She has sex with the one she does pills with. Hello! That basically confirms IMO that MS TW is a hoe. LOL....xanax and percs. why do I think the mother has a presciption for these pills and Johnny made money selling them? I being that he is a moma's boy she knew that..but never met her but that they were BIG CLIENTS of the family business. IMO OF COURSE

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Methusala: There is some important stuff in here, so sorry for the lengthy post.
Note in particular allegation that T was excused from taking polygraph because she is pregnant!?


you probably missed it, we did touch on this. (tough to keep up here!) but it's quite likely she was not polygraphed due to pregnancy.

















































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(02-12-2011, 12:32 AM)rotten_cotton Wrote: the justice page sure is getting intense!!!

"jus food for thought if u committed a murder or had anything to do with a murder would u implicate urself by callin the victims mother or anything of that sort? OH by the way my names AP and i am tiffany's boyfriend and i took a lie detecdtor test yesterday and passed it... jus a lil more gossip for ur petty azz"

How would he know if he "passed" it? Or does he just think he "passed" it because they didn't tell him otherwise and they didn't arrest him right there on the spot? That's my guess.
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(02-12-2011, 01:02 AM)doing40thisyear Wrote: [quote='Mommabear' pid='126978' dateline='1297486481']
Maytee La Cubana Vazquez At both of those skum her n boyfriend she already had her xboyfriend killed plus she has sex with the one she does pills with all the time and no polly results arent in yet but if wen they come in if he pass he prolly took xanax bars n percocets to try n stay calm they are fiends those two and is he forgettin all the dna you effin skum cowards they will not get away with murder rot in hell skum
16 minutes ago · 2 people

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Jealousy pathetic low life trash will pay they are sewer trash n they will pay god will make sure they die do if i was tbem i would do tbe world a favor and hang themselves before demons feast on their heartless souls beleive me they will not get away with murder
9 minutes ago · 2 people

From Justice for Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub

sorry I keep posting these comments but they are going to be deleted so I am coping and pasting as they come up
She has sex with the one she does pills with. Hello! That basically confirms IMO that MS TW is a hoe. LOL....xanax and percs. why do I think the mother has a presciption for these pills and Johnny made money selling them? I being that he is a moma's boy she knew that..but never met her but that they were BIG CLIENTS of the family business. IMO OF COURSE


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Sorry let me explain I dont think she had ever met TW and MR Z but Johnny may have mentioned I need the pills tonight, they are coming over to play pool and I can make some money...IMO of course ..pure speculation. HOW in the word does a 20 or 21 years old get prescriptions drugs...I thinking Parents...who need to make Cash. IMO...I still think MAYTEE knows a little more about what was going to go down that night at the pool party. She seems so dramatic on the 1st 911 call ...so dramatic. I know she claims she has this power or feeling but IMO she knows more about what was happening over at the Straub house that night.

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(02-12-2011, 01:13 AM)doing40thisyear Wrote:
(02-12-2011, 01:02 AM)doing40thisyear Wrote: [quote='Mommabear' pid='126978' dateline='1297486481']
Maytee La Cubana Vazquez At both of those skum her n boyfriend she already had her xboyfriend killed plus she has sex with the one she does pills with all the time and no polly results arent in yet but if wen they come in if he pass he prolly took xanax bars n percocets to try n stay calm they are fiends those two and is he forgettin all the dna you effin skum cowards they will not get away with murder rot in hell skum
16 minutes ago · 2 people

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Jealousy pathetic low life trash will pay they are sewer trash n they will pay god will make sure they die do if i was tbem i would do tbe world a favor and hang themselves before demons feast on their heartless souls beleive me they will not get away with murder
9 minutes ago · 2 people

From Justice for Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub

sorry I keep posting these comments but they are going to be deleted so I am coping and pasting as they come up
She has sex with the one she does pills with. Hello! That basically confirms IMO that MS TW is a hoe. LOL....xanax and percs. why do I think the mother has a presciption for these pills and Johnny made money selling them? I being that he is a moma's boy she knew that..but never met her but that they were BIG CLIENTS of the family business. IMO OF COURSE


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Sorry let me explain I dont think she had ever met TW and MR Z but Johnny may have mentioned I need the pills tonight, they are coming over to play pool and I can make some money...IMO of course ..pure speculation. HOW in the word does a 20 or 21 years old get prescriptions drugs...I thinking Parents...who need to make Cash. IMO...I still think MAYTEE knows a little more about what was going to go down that night at the pool party. She seems so dramatic on the 1st 911 call ...so dramatic. I know she claims she has this power or feeling but IMO she knows more about what was happening over at the Straub house that night.

and let me just add THAT IMO was prior to the 1st call from the friend who initially clued her in that something is wrong. Something is going through her might then IMO...like she had idea that it was a drug deal gone wrong but do you really say that to a 911 dispatcher. :hey i cant get ahold of my son..he was selling my pills tonight as his gf's house...the pool party which could be slang...drug party...as no photos show anyone playing pool...IMO of course
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(02-11-2011, 11:40 PM)netsleuth Wrote:
(02-11-2011, 11:37 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote: So Tiffanys boyfriend is sending out this message to people:

Here is the message he's sending people:

I feel you and everyone commenting on this case are very ignorant. Do u think you would display any type of feelings on a facebook page if the police were questioning you on a daily basis as if you we...re a suspect? I dont think u or any normal human being would and just so you know i sat up with her every night for a week holding her while she cried over all this. And she did go for a lie detector test and they would not give it to her because she was pregnant. It's sad how simple minded most people are to throw dirt on a persons name based on he say, she say shit. Get it together whoever you are, and I hope all of you ignorant people posting shit on this page apologize to her when the real culprits are apprehended.

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Interesting. Thanks FB78. Is there a link?

"...when the real culprits are apprehended"? Huh? Did someone write this for him b/c that CERTAINLY doesn't sound like the way he talks! (types, whatever)
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