Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[kitty1]

hey everyone!! new here. been following other forums on this case. didn't know that this one even existed!!! i tried to read all 119 pages. forget about it!!! i'm not verified yet but i am extended family of Lisa and i am also a local all my life. lisa's showing and funeral were sad. so many beautiful pictures of her. it was weird to see her body in the casket and visions of what they did pop into my mind horrible. the detectives were there mostly to keep psych mom and her posse out.

I've been to the funeral of a murder victim (someone's only child) and it was ghastly.

Something I noticed in all of Lisa's photos was that she was so damn cute. It's just inconceivable that she died like that.

Do you happen to know anything about her relationship with Johnny, like what Lisa's parents thought of him? How about her previous boyfriend?

jeff and marybeth (lisa's parent's) did not like him and they did not like lisa's behavior and recent choices. they had been trying to talk to her to no avail. he was living there to get away from his psycho mom. her previous bf BD broke into Lisa's home to find her and they had a tpo on him

So, you're positive that Johnny did, in fact, live with the Straubs?

This BD guy that you say broke into their home - did he do time in prison? Some people have said that Lisa had another former BF who was recently released from prison and I'm wondering if that's accurate.

How long ago did the break in occur? Do you know anything about it? Was anyone home when it happened; was it to steal something, trash Lisa's room, assault Lisa, etc? Was he prosecuted?

sorry,that's all i know. i just found out from the family and it wasn't an appropriate time to ask details.

[RJs-Ex]

In regard to the cost of prescription narcotics vs heroin/other street drugs... I work with a girl who's been on Vicodin for a "back injury" for YEARS. It's prescribed by her doctor and her insurance pays for it. And she takes A LOT. I've seen the pill bottle they come in - it's one of those extra-large, really wide pill bottles. I don't know a better way to describe it than it's the biggest f'ing Rx bottle I've ever seen.

Anyway, my point is that she pays a $10 co-pay for her Rx each month. $10! So if JC got drugs to sell from someone with an Rx, I'm sure they'd make that money back with just selling 1 pill - the rest would be all profit.

[Jane]

I think I got caught up here. That FB "justice" page is wild! I really can't understand a grieving mother sitting on FB all the time, posting some of the things she's posting, there. Different strokes for different folks, I guess, but it's strange! Good night all

[Jane]

In regard to the cost of prescription narcotics vs heroin/other street drugs... I work with a girl who's been on Vicodin for a "back injury" for YEARS. It's prescribed by her doctor and her insurance pays for it. And she takes A LOT. I've seen the pill bottle they come in - it's one of those extra-large, really wide pill bottles. I don't know a better way to describe it than it's the biggest f'ing Rx bottle I've ever seen.

Anyway, my point is that she pays a $10 co-pay for her Rx each month. $10! So if JC got drugs to sell from someone with an Rx, I'm sure they'd make that money back with just selling 1 pill - the rest would be all profit.

& I'm willing to bet, some of the characters 'Dr shop' for sure!

[doing40thisyear]

In regard to the cost of prescription narcotics vs heroin/other street drugs... I work with a girl who's been on Vicodin for a "back injury" for YEARS. It's prescribed by her doctor and her insurance pays for it. And she takes A LOT. I've seen the pill bottle they come in - it's one of those extra-large, really wide pill bottles. I don't know a better way to describe it than it's the biggest f'ing Rx bottle I've ever seen.

Anyway, my point is that she pays a $10 co-pay for her Rx each month. $10! So if JC got drugs to sell from someone with an Rx, I'm sure they'd make that money back with just selling 1 pill - the rest would be all profit.

Yep..that is what I am saying. I may have an active imagination but earlier on I was thinking this theory and didnt comment on this forum for a long time but i was here from the beginning..I do however feel for Maytee. as she just lost her son. There are all walks of life out there..but something has always made me think just by listening to all the 911 calls that she knows more about what was going down at the Straubs that night. Not persay she knew her son was going to be in danger but that he was making some money and now receiving the call with the story given to her she freaks. The 1^st call is dramatic, I cant breath she says. she seems calmer than next but blocks that girl in the driveway...which indicates to me that JC had brought her name about buying the pill from him in passing maybe...IMO of course. I would love to know what TW was saying to the father when she picked him up.. He doesnt seem like someone you could get pass with lies meaning I believe both Maytee and the father have some street smarts. this is all speculation as I dont even know these people and I just basically an observer and this was my very 1^st thought that Maytee knew about the drugs being sold there that night..IMO IMO IMO of course.

[RJs-Ex]

Well I don't know what to make of this. Tiffany's ex's MS has some interesting photos on it, especially the cast of "Free My Niggaz". Is that who I think it is?

You can find his MS page from Tiffany's page. He's one of her Top Friends.

http://www.myspace.com/dat1an_only/friends

[kitty1]

Lisa's ex BD, has the same amount of friends on FB that he did 2 days ago, and he still has posted nothing to his wall..

I've done some searching and the ex, BD...in Sylvania Ohio...agg trespassing, falsification, disorderly conduct. was charged with these for the same incident. Other words...all in one day.

He did have an assault charge filed in 2009.

Unless I'm reading wrong or not understanding, any jail time was suspended mostly. I'm pretty sure if reading correctly, the most he served time was 30 days at CCNO....that is JAIL...NOT PRISON..and he was on work release, meaning he left and worked and went back to jail at night. Had to make restitution, fines, etc, and dismissed charges. He completed anger management and restitution.

I do not see any type of agg robbery anywhere, nor do I see any prison time like Maytee was yapping about. And these charges were 1 and 2 years ago. Nothing since....

In June 2010 in Perrysburg (suburb of Toledo) was busted for open container and dis. conduct...

these are only records I could find...NOTHING in Lucas County, Wood County, Maumee, or Oregon.

so, while he appears to have problems controlling himself while drinking, nothing to serious after the assault 2 years ago. There was a "no contact" instigated against the victim of the assault, but it does NOT name the victim.

This furthers my theory that when maytee was on TV and stated that Lisa's ex just got out of PRISON for ARMED ROBBERY...this was a false statement as it is not anywhere..unless it was a different state! I'm pretty sure Maytee just said that to get the heat off of Johnny's record and continue to throw Lisa under the bus.

i just had a thought and i didnt get to the end of all the posts so maybe someone already stated this. i asked family about LS's ex BD (re; what maytee said on JVM - that he just got out of prison) family said it wasn't true and they looked at me shocked that i would ask. family that i asked said they didn't watch the Jvm episode or they taped the repeated episode that aired in middle of night and all the accusations that maytee made about lisa were omitted from that episode. isn't it possible that perhaps maytee was taking about Tiff and? we know to be fact that he was just released from prison. afterall in that episode of JVM and many other times she frequently accuses Tiff of involvement. so in all her ranting and raving and stress she is under that she just got the girs confused for a second??? i hope i'm making sense. i'm tired and this thread is the longest!! OMG!!!! i leave the house for a few hours and i try to catch up. holy f@@#$$ing sh#t!!!! i cant even stand to go to T's FB. i can't understand her ghetto talk and she is just f@#$$ing SKANKY!!!!!!

[TotallyCurious]

I would not doubt that Maytee had something planned at the Straub's
which Johnny had absolutely no idea about and it went bad and she paid a big
price. Just my weird feeling at the moment. I think Johnny was
totally innocent, with the exception of selling mom's pills for HER. She
knew too much about his evening; she had to have some reason to
be following his evening so closely.

Her rap sheet suggests she would not be above it.

By the way, really nice kids do drugs. Doing drugs does not make
them really horrible or unredeemable. ie Robert Downey Jr.
many newscasters, tv child stars, etc. etc etc. Here is hoping
this group of young people can defy the odds and get out from under
the hold of the scourge.

[Freshbait78]

Well I don't know what to make of this. Tiffany's ex's MS has some interesting photos on it, especially the cast of "Free My Niggaz". Is that who I think it is?

You can find his MS page from Tiffany's page. He's one of her Top Friends.

http://www.myspace.com/dat1an_only/friends

HaHa yeah it is, I kinda got the impression that they were friends & then after he's killed Tiffany just hooks up with the next "homie" fresh outta the joint LOL Pathetic

[doing40thisyear]

Well I don't know what to make of this. Tiffany's ex's MS has some interesting photos on it, especially the cast of "Free My Niggaz". Is that who I think it is?

You can find his MS page from Tiffany's page. He's one of her Top Friends.

http://www.myspace.com/dat1an_only/friends

yeah love the one where there is a can with smoke coming out of it...dont druggies use a pop can to smoke their stuff. even if we find out she is not involved...she is a real classy act, isnt she? TAKE CARE OF YOUR KIDS, TW...you shouldnt even have a party life with 3....on here it was posted they dont even live with her and now another one on the way. I suppose she is a welfare hoarder.. have a bunch of kids, get them taken away...have another kid...see if that one gets taken away. repeat repeat repeat....and yes I guess it irks me my tax dollars pay for fools like this. IMO of course always

[TotallyCurious]

I would rather my money went to help them straighten out rather
than it going to a war in Afghanistan.

[sharit]

In regard to the cost of prescription narcotics vs heroin/other street drugs... I work with a girl who's been on Vicodin for a "back injury" for YEARS. It's prescribed by her doctor and her insurance pays for it. And she takes A LOT. I've seen the pill bottle they come in - it's one of those extra-large, really wide pill bottles. I don't know a better way to describe it than it's the biggest f'ing Rx bottle I've ever seen.

Anyway, my point is that she pays a $10 co-pay for her Rx each month. $10! So if JC got drugs to sell from someone with an Rx, I'm sure they'd make that money back with just selling 1 pill - the rest would be all profit.

Yep..that is what I am saying. I may have an active imagination but earlier on I was thinking this theory and didnt comment on this forum for a long time but i was here from the beginning..I do however feel for Maytee. as she just lost her son. There are all walks of life out there..but something has always made me think just by listening to all the 911 calls that she knows more about what was going down at the Straubs that night. Not persay she knew her son was going to be in danger but that he was making some money and now receiving the call with the story given to her she freaks. The 1^st call is dramatic, I cant breath she says. she seems calmer than next but blocks that girl in the driveway...which indicates to me that JC had brought her name about buying the pill from him in passing maybe...IMO of course. I would love to know what TW was saying to the father when she picked him up.. He doesnt seem like someone you could get pass with lies meaning I believe both Maytee and the father have some street smarts. this is all speculation as I dont even know these people and I just basically an observer and this was my very 1^st thought that Maytee knew about the drugs being sold there that night..IMO IMO IMO of course.

JMO...what maytee knows is her son was dealin. and that in itself is dangerous. and from what she was told about the phone call, she knew what had happened. she probably thought he was beaten and robbed, tied up but alive. tw should have called the friend immediatly and let the family decide to involve LE or not. jmo

[shitstorm]

Tiffany's myspace. do not reproduce photos of her children here.


http://www.myspace.com/dat1an_only/photos


tiffany nichole williams ,.
23 years oldd ; 3 gangster ass kidss ! (:
always rockinn ; grey goose is her shit !
FUCK M.O.E...YAW SOME BYTCH ASS NIGGAS...PERIOD
main bitches ; lexis casey & meghan courtney.
wanna know more ; get to know her.
offff this lame shit !

I'm still WAY behind in this thread. Lots of interruptions, all evening.

I looked at about 100 of those pictures. I kept thinking I'd see a roll of duct tape.

All I can say is

OH
MY
GOD

This could be south central LA or Compton. It's as bad as it gets. That's a typical prison population, right there.

Makes me ill.

[shitstorm]

She has a POLE in her house?

omg! & that 'gangsta' shit! Sorry, but I literally laughed outloud. WHAT a skank, piece of shit!

One of the pics of her "bytches" actually says "SKANKS", lol!

Reading the captions shows that Tiffany (shouldn't she change that Tyff'ny?) is very impressed with herself. Where does this self esteem come from?

[RJs-Ex]

She has a POLE in her house?

omg! & that 'gangsta' shit! Sorry, but I literally laughed outloud. WHAT a skank, piece of shit!

One of the pics of her "bytches" actually says "SKANKS", lol!

Reading the captions shows that Tiffany (shouldn't she change that Tyff'ny?) is very impressed with herself. Where does this self esteem come from?

Hahahahhahhaaaaaaaaaaaa!

[shitstorm]

Why do these totally white people refer to themselves as "niggas" constantly?

It's a mentality. A state of mind.

Being black helps but it's not required.

[shitstorm]

Tiffany's myspace. do not reproduce photos of her children here.


http://www.myspace.com/dat1an_only/photos


tiffany nichole williams ,.
23 years oldd ; 3 gangster ass kidss ! (:
always rockinn ; grey goose is her shit !
FUCK M.O.E...YAW SOME BYTCH ASS NIGGAS...PERIOD
main bitches ; lexis casey & meghan courtney.
wanna know more ; get to know her.
offff this lame shit !

holy hell....even the girls are gangstas! those pics are creeeeepy!

In some of the photos of her darling little boys they're throwing gang signs :(

[shitstorm]

(Tiffany flashing wads of money pic here)
Niiiiiice.

Wow, I didn't see that one. I did see where one her BABIES was doing the same.

OMG, our country is so fucked up!!!

[shitstorm]

Re: Tiffany's myspace page. My heart breaks for her children.

Yup. It's so sad. When they're born they have every opportunity ahead, or none. Such cute little guys and they look so happy. I was wondering if they are future inmates.

Looking at her family pics I had to wonder where this all started. Where did it all go wrong? You know didn't she get this way from a normal upbringing. However it came about, it matters not, now. Too late.

[shitstorm]

go read the justice for JC and LS FB page... read all the comments under the entry that begins with their picture from the Blade and it says February 10, 2011 article. It's the one under the post about how FB changed to allow admininstrators to see postings first blah blah blah. GOOD STUFF!

sorry, may i have the link again? thanks~

http://tinyurl.com/6zuft4z