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Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered
the thread is now open because i dislike and resent being unfair to the members, or being manipulated/forced into punitive measures that i do not desire.

















































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Thank-you! so much I appreciate the forum very much and you do a great job on here!

HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY!
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Thanks Nightowl, and same to you.
i made you a member. Smiley_emoticons_wink

















































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LC i am trying to make an avatar and dont know what to put for url?
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(02-14-2011, 01:26 AM)sharit Wrote: LC i am trying to make an avatar and dont know what to put for url?

check this thread. Smiley_emoticons_wink

http://mockforums.net/thread-4825.html


















































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Lady Cop

I'm thrilled ! Thank-you!
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On a related note the Justice for Johnny and Lisa page was pulled from FB. Apparently the person who started it wasn't on the up and up?

Quote:Maytee said - "Iam reporting that justice for johnny and lisa page please friends join me how dare this woman think or even imagine wat i feel or can say i want that page gone she just wants a story ;,,,("
http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/RIP-Joh...7417605357

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YAY the thread is back open.
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Quote:Years ago my husband was involved in a high profile felony case. He made $27 an hour. He didn't ask for a court appointed lawyer, and could have easily afforded any high profile lawyer. He said out of no where he was given a lawyer that he never asked for or paid for. I still see this lawyer on tv for some high profile cases in town. Maybe the case was high profile enough that it happened to them too?

The point I was making was that 3 thugs robbing someone wasn't even a blip on the crime scene here. It was not a high profile case then. I can't remember who said before that Jon Richardson would hardly be called the best...but he was. Also, Highly respected within the legal community, and hi retainer. There are certain lawyers that can still command that kind of money...maybe 2 or 3 tops. As far as the state paying defense attys...I don't know about that. I've never heard any of the lawyers state that and why would the state pay? This is County business...the county hires them, but they don't get that much from them in the scheme of things. This county...this entire state is BROKE...truly. I know that Jon R and J Potts charge at least 250 and hour, (unless they've dropped their prices) and minimum retainer in the thousands. I jsut figured that all that money he and his "bros" and Tiffany also was flashing, helped with his defense....

Quote:Thanks for this info Kitty. I am curious if her ex was there or if he was one that wasn't allowed?

i'm not sure about that. there were pics of him there.

I'm fairly stunned about this. Let's see, he had a TRO against him from the family, he alledgedly punched her friend in the stomach, and beat her to where people have claimed on this board that they SAW her beaten, and they have photos of him at the funeral?? Seriously? I see that being wrong on so many levels. The girl lies dead in a casket because of the violence and people she surrounded herself with, and they have pics of her and ANOTHER MAN WHO WAS PHYSICALLY VIOLENT AND STALKING HER at her funeral?? I might be in the minority, but WTF were people thinking? That would be the damn day I would put pics of my daughter and an abusive ex up at her funeral! Jesus. And we wonder why the abuse and degradation of woman continues in this country?? I am really upset that they did that if its true, and please don't post soemthing as trite as "Well, they really loved each other TILL HE BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF HER, they were a great coupld TILL HER PARENTS TOOK OUT A TRO on him for harrassment and trespassing...UGH


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(02-14-2011, 01:56 AM)jash Wrote: he alledgedly punched her friend in the stomach

if youre talking about the story i told you... it was JC that punched her friend in the stomach... not the ex BD. sorry for the confusion.
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the justice for JC and LS page is back up.
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(02-14-2011, 12:21 AM)kitty1 Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 11:53 PM)doing40thisyear Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 11:34 PM)kitty1 Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 10:43 PM)Wish.I.was.a.P.I Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 10:31 PM)kitty1 Wrote: someone asked about Lisa's funeral and I don't know if i posted this or not. it was private, but word of mouth got around so many people were there. the people that the family did not want there were not there and wouldn't have been allowed in. She looked good but of course not like she was in life. you have all seen the pictures. she was adorable freckles and all. they had lots of pictures and and a book she had written about what she expected her future to be like. her dreams, her goals and her heros. that was difficult to read. of course i was looking in the crowd for suspicious people. i saw no "thugz or gangstas" or any even remotely close to that. her family is dignified, respectful and know how to speak and write using all the vowels and consonants.

Yes lisa ex was there and he was upset.

Thanks for this info Kitty. I am curious if her ex was there or if he was one that wasn't allowed?

i'm not sure about that. there were pics of him there. one of the reasons for the police presence was to keep Maytee and her entourage away

Kitty Again Im sorry for you loss and let me know if I am being out of line with this question. Why did the family not want Maytee there? Just want your opinion on that. I know she had blamed LS (cause of the ex Boyfriend). Maybe I am way out of line..just let me know cuz my heart breaks for you and your friends and the family. Who were LS's heros. (in that book you were talking about) and when did she write the journal or book? Was Nursing something she always wanted to pursue?

lisa's hero was her older sister. i believe she wrote it her senior year. i don't know how long she wanted to be a nurse. i'd rather not reveal more except to say that Maytee is not just acting bizarre because she is grieving. she has always been a nut job!!!!

Yes lisa's ex was there and he seemed to be very upset.
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There was a threat to edit out some things on the Johnny Page
so I copied them. Here is the comment thread.

Justice for Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub
I will be making this page invisible for awhile as it is getting WAY out of hand. I made this page to discuss this case and keep everyone updated on the murder investigation. I did NOT make this a page for people to say how they want people cut up into little pieces and have acid poured over them, etc. I am really PISSED right now!
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Justice for Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub A few comments here and there would have been OK but it just doesn't stop. I think some people should go make their own page. I can't take it anymore.
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'Tami Anderson' Wow i cannot believe people sometimes. They should not say things like that on your page. Some people are crule.
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Tonia Alexa Lopez-Curtis This story is so sad** I saw it on Nancy Grace about a week ago and all for all involved justice will be served** Such beautiful kids gone for no reason**
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Amber Willard I tried to say that but everyone came at me like a wolf pack and saying I was that girls friend
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Katie Beaubien Woooow ppl are just rediculas an sick!! No one has respect anymore!! Im really sorry this happened an tht ppl would be sooo ruthless!!!
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Lisa Patnaude Oh my gosh... people never cease to amaze me..and not in a good way..this poor family has lost a great deal...this page should be the posistive support that this family needs to get through this immensly difficult time...
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Elaine Sayre Jones Maybe its best to just delete this page entirely its alot of negativity and let the parents grieve in peace and let Lisa and Johnny Rest in Peace and justice will prevail .
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Really thats because u did not lose your child as we did and found them the way me and my husband did im speechless if the tables were turned you would understand our anger and grief im speechless right now ;,,,,,( sad sad sad
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Filomena Arocho Sorry to hear this I read the page everyday to see if who is responsible for this is caught. I know people say things that get out of hand but they should just wish that all the families involved can have closure. Wish you didn't have to do this but I understand what you are feeling.



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(02-14-2011, 01:41 AM)netsleuth Wrote: On a related note the Justice for Johnny and Lisa page was pulled from FB. Apparently the person who started it wasn't on the up and up?

Quote:Maytee said - "Iam reporting that justice for johnny and lisa page please friends join me how dare this woman think or even imagine wat i feel or can say i want that page gone she just wants a story ;,,,("
http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/RIP-Joh...7417605357
what i got from the page (rip johnny and lisa) was that she (person that created it) had lost her child and thought she would create it. where people could pay tribute, but i get the feeling now that she was getting too much angered comment from TIFF's bf AJ and also Maytee was saying some pretty awful comments. I know she lost her son but she was saying some pretty horrible things on that page. It seems like if you dont play by Maytee rules u are cut off. If anyone know how she ( Maytee) must feel is the person who created that page as I thought that person too lost her child to a horrible crime. I mean they all say she (maytee) was nuts even prior to this happening. I guess the person would have had better luck with Maytee if she would have agreed with Maytee facebook comments. Yeah kill them all and their kids and pour acid on them..watch them die...IMO OF COURSE..

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Buy the way LADY COP..I glad It is back up and running.. As i thought I was having severe withdrawl symptoms for not being able to go into this thread. LOL....however, people should check out other things on this wonderful site. I have laughed, cried, and have been subject to some wonderful points of views on all the threads available by being a member...Thanks Lady Cop for making me a member.
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(02-14-2011, 03:36 AM)doing40thisyear Wrote:
(02-14-2011, 01:41 AM)netsleuth Wrote: On a related note the Justice for Johnny and Lisa page was pulled from FB. Apparently the person who started it wasn't on the up and up?

Quote:Maytee said - "Iam reporting that justice for johnny and lisa page please friends join me how dare this woman think or even imagine wat i feel or can say i want that page gone she just wants a story ;,,,("
http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/RIP-Joh...7417605357
what i got from the page (rip johnny and lisa) was that she (person that created it) had lost her child and thought she would create it. where people could pay tribute, but i get the feeling now that she was getting too much angered comment from TIFF's bf AJ and also Maytee was saying some pretty awful comments. I know she lost her son but she was saying some pretty horrible things on that page. It seems like if you dont play by Maytee rules u are cut off. If anyone know how she ( Maytee) must feel is the person who created that page as I thought that person too lost her child to a horrible crime. I mean they all say she (maytee) was nuts even prior to this happening. I guess the person would have had better luck with Maytee if she would have agreed with Maytee facebook comments. Yeah kill them all and their kids and pour acid on them..watch them die...IMO OF COURSE..

The woman that created that page may have had good intentions but it was still pretty presumptuous of her.
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I feel for Maytee, I do..dont get me wrong but Maytee was at the beginning all for that page and had even thanked her for creating it. I think the creator of the page then started getting alot of hate emails from people about the comments Maytee was making against Tiff and co and that scared her into thinking I do not want to be involved with this.. Lord Knows I wouldnt want to be anywhere near that town right now. Seems like alot of angry people..angry people who lost love ones; angry thugs, and just angered younger and older people all around in that town right now.
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(02-14-2011, 03:41 AM)doing40thisyear Wrote: Buy the way LADY COP..I glad It is back up and running.. As i thought I was having severe withdrawl symptoms for not being able to go into this thread. LOL....however, people should check out other things on this wonderful site. I have laughed, cried, and have been subject to some wonderful points of views on all the threads available by being a member...Thanks Lady Cop for making me a member.

my pleasure to have YOU for a member, and i hope everyone will also check out other areas of Mock, we do have some great topics, humor and photos. or start one of your own~~HAPPY 109 VALENTINE'S DAY EVERYONE~~


















































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(02-14-2011, 08:28 AM)Lady Cop Wrote:
(02-14-2011, 03:41 AM)doing40thisyear Wrote: Buy the way LADY COP..I glad It is back up and running.. As i thought I was having severe withdrawl symptoms for not being able to go into this thread. LOL....however, people should check out other things on this wonderful site. I have laughed, cried, and have been subject to some wonderful points of views on all the threads available by being a member...Thanks Lady Cop for making me a member.

my pleasure to have YOU for a member, and i hope everyone will also check out other areas of Mock, we do have some great topics, humor and photos. or start one of your own~~HAPPY 109 VALENTINE'S DAY EVERYONE~~
This is a great site all types of opinions here,so happy to be part of it.
Happy Valentines day.
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Thanks! well it IS Valentine's Day. so we should have a love-fest in this thread?

nah. hahahahaha.

but once more i'll remind everyone we change servers today and will have some downtime. it could be long, i just don't know. it's going to be tough! i might have to do things away from computer! OH NO! but i will be watching to see if there is any news on the case.


















































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