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(03-11-2011, 03:44 AM)BellaMia Wrote: She really needs to try and not let her anger get the best of her. Some of the things she has said openly tonight could land her in jail. That is all she needs with everything else she is going through.
I guess what I am really trying to say is I think she has hit her breaking point to put it nicely. It is very sad to witness someone go through that. I really wish this case would get solved and give her some closure. I am not even sure it would help but WOW I dont think much more can sit on those shoulders.
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Interesting AG comments how it's in her blood to snitch...which IMO implies other family members have well...hhmmm
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I find it interesting that Johnny & AG have a past of some sorts. Yeah I think Maytee is off her rocker, and perhaps she does know more then she is saying, but I believe TW does too.
Maytee made it known TW & ZB have been to her place before.
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jash Wrote: TiffW...what is your take on JC's mom? do you personally know her? does she have an ax to grind with you or other members of your circle of friends?
tiffwill123:personaly i think the lady is crazy.i did not kno her i met her the night of all of this.an as soon as i told her he wasnt answering the phone she said it was my fault.i set her son up. yes i think she is against me and others.
"It is a capital mistake to theorize before you have all the evidence. It biases the judgment."
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(03-11-2011, 03:59 AM)DickTracy Wrote: I find it interesting that Johnny & AG have a past of some sorts. Yeah I think Maytee is off her rocker, and perhaps she does know more then she is saying, but I believe TW does too.
Maytee made it known TW & ZB have been to her place before.
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jash Wrote: TiffW...what is your take on JC's mom? do you personally know her? does she have an ax to grind with you or other members of your circle of friends?
tiffwill123:personaly i think the lady is crazy.i did not kno her i met her the night of all of this.an as soon as i told her he wasnt answering the phone she said it was my fault.i set her son up. yes i think she is against me and others.
and then according to Maytee:
Maytee La Cubana Vazquez She does is she forgetting the cameras on my house alarm are in every room here and shes been fucking with z since the end of summer??? Hmmmm and i record all night n day oh and fyi mine is wireless ha so noone can cut my wires if you ever thought about it before just so you know...she used z as alibi
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Ehh? I don't get this. So was Tiff at Maytee's house that was set up with cameras?? geez this is such a tangled web...
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it's 2 a.m. now.. and there's so much going on in my head. I have even more info... 
i'm gonna have to try and decipher all this tomorrow, er.. i mean later today lol
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(03-11-2011, 04:15 AM)Miss Conspiracy Wrote: it's 2 a.m. now.. and there's so much going on in my head. I have even more info...
i'm gonna have to try and decipher all this tomorrow, er.. i mean later today lol
What a wonderful job you have done Miss Conspiracy - my God what a night! Thanks!
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geeeeez I found more! lol
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I don't get how people can be so disrespectful, I hope that these cowards are caught soon and the families can rejoice and be at peace knowing they will soon have to face not only god but johnny and lisa too! Praying for the death penalty. ♥
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Thank you and justice does prevail and death penalty will be enforced
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AD I pray for it every night mama even though I barely knew them it took a toll on me and it isn't fair. Im sorry you have to go through this, excuse my language but FUCK everyone who is coming at you crazy and I hope they burn right next to the cowards that took them.
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AG aint no1 disrespectful to that woman u have to give respect to recieve it...i absolutely feel where all of u people r coming from for feeling sorry for what she is going thru but this lady is so disrespectful and is takin advantage of all of u naive simple minded peoples sympathy for her
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Stay off this page you evil demon AG you are not welcomed here at all quit harrassing me and tormenting me i have all your inbox emails threats forwarded to law enforcement stop coming on my son n lisas page have some respect. We all know you hated them and was telling everyone you were going to rob lisas house
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Thank you AD and ignore him he will be banned n blocked tomorrow hes not welcomed here
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I could NEVER be simple minded orr nieve. And yes you are EXTREMELY disrespectful. If your so innocent leave that to the law to determine. Leave her and her family alone haven't you done enough damage?! as a soon to be father take into acco...unt what it would be like to find your child dead like she did, and think about the shit your saying. Enough is enough fucking drop it and take care of your pregnant girl and let the story unfold, if your innocent then we will all see. Until then, who do you think your convincing? Not me, not her, not anybody.See More
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AG r u fuckin seruois? u stupid bitch u have me blocked i can't send u emails u fuckin retard. and i am goin to respect ur wishes and stay off this page because i have gotten everythang off my chest that has been botherin me since this all started
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AG im not tryin to convince u of nothin u dumb azz bitch.. i have nothin to prove toi anyone..god is my maker u fuckin stupid bitch....and im tired of hearin this lady talk about me for something i didnt do but i am goin to stay off this page..but dont speak on shit that u know nothin about n miss me wit that father to be shit....worry about ur good ol suburb life.. u knoqw nothing about me and u have poor grammar ..u are very naive
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TA AG,why are you so disrespectful? If you're not guilty, I would think you would let things be....what is the purpose of coming to this page? Unless you're having some guilty feelings!! Otherwise respect Maytees wishes and leave her alone!! God help this situation!!!
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I have poor grammar? Boy, did you even graduate? And hold up, let me quote you "dumb azz bitch", so you can miss me with your insults, and god will see to it that you burn in hell alongside every piece of shit that had something to do with... this. And if im correct you are a father to be? Are you ashamed, or unsure? Just curious. And suburb? Clearly you do not know me, nor do I feel it necessary to tell you about me, because you aren't worth that kind of time. Call me what you want but I've never been to jail, or killed anyone, which makes me clear in gods eyes, call me what you want but nothing you say phases me. See More
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Your disrespectfull and foul quit writing on my son n lisas memory pages AG this isnt about you and the courts will prove whos guilty or not and stop calling descent people that truly care for our kids and family names god hates ugly remember that
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TA God is all of our makers but with a mouth like yours AG you sure won't be seeing our maker!!
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Thank you T and AD and god bless you both im sorry hes so disrespectfull and just wont leave us alone
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Amen T and AD
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Justice will prevail for my johnny and lisa
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AG and tiffany williams need to be deleted , banned n blocked from this page he will not stop harrassing , tormenting me and threatening me n my families life i have contacted law enforcement since they are suspects in my son johnny clarke n lisa straubs murder
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u dont have to ban me ma'am i am going to delete myself from this page and ur sorry azz is lucky i aint know cop calling bitch azz nigga cuz i would sue ur sorry excuse for a grieving mother for all the slander u have been posting on facebo...ok...i in no way was tryin to be disrespectful to u when this all started off but u have it stuck in ur mind that i had something to do wit ur son and lisa's death and anyone that knows me would tell u that i would never fuck no female up cuz i dont get down like that.... n believe me i am in no way a coward at all...i ghope the truth does come out and i hope u r a woman of ur word and apologize to me and tiffany...See More
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TA What a shame to even be posting on Maytees page AG....if you're not guilty then why are you on here talking your smack...let the law take care of it...God knows if you're guilty or not and no one can hide from that! I pray that God will reveal who did this and if you are involved it will come out! heavenly father I pray for you to reveal the person or persons to be revealed soon! IN JESUS NAME AMEN!!!!!
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Amen ;,,,((( AMEN god please let the law arrests all involved sooner then later and please make them pay for taking our johnny and lisa from us thank you lord thank you thank you amen
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whoeevr T is mind ur own business please..put urself in my shoes..would u life bein disrespected on a daily basios over something u didnt do? n o u wouldnt and murder at that...u do not know where im comin from at all so please dont spe...ak to me..i would appreciate it and im going to dislike this page and i wont be on here talkin no more and god does know that im not guilty and i cant wait for the day that the truth comes out...u have no idead how me or my gurlfriend feel about all this so yeajus mind ur business please sir or ma'amSee More
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(03-11-2011, 04:10 AM)Miss Conspiracy Wrote: (03-11-2011, 03:59 AM)DickTracy Wrote: I find it interesting that Johnny & AG have a past of some sorts. Yeah I think Maytee is off her rocker, and perhaps she does know more then she is saying, but I believe TW does too.
Maytee made it known TW & ZB have been to her place before.
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jash Wrote: TiffW...what is your take on JC's mom? do you personally know her? does she have an ax to grind with you or other members of your circle of friends?
tiffwill123:personaly i think the lady is crazy.i did not kno her i met her the night of all of this.an as soon as i told her he wasnt answering the phone she said it was my fault.i set her son up. yes i think she is against me and others.
and then according to Maytee:
Maytee La Cubana Vazquez She does is she forgetting the cameras on my house alarm are in every room here and shes been fucking with z since the end of summer??? Hmmmm and i record all night n day oh and fyi mine is wireless ha so noone can cut my wires if you ever thought about it before just so you know...she used z as alibi
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Ehh? I don't get this. So was Tiff at Maytee's house that was set up with cameras?? geez this is such a tangled web...
ummm yea sounds like she is stating that she has video taped the two of them. Is z of age? She may just of been trying to get to ap any way she could. Some of the things he was saying couldnt of been easy to listen to even if they were lies. I wish I knew what was being said from the start for her to post those comments openly. Emails, Pm?
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(03-11-2011, 03:43 AM)Miss Conspiracy Wrote: Maytee La Cubana Vazquez
AG and tiffany williams need to be deleted , banned n blocked from this page he will not stop harrassing , tormenting me and threatening me n my families life i have contacted law enforcement since they are suspects in my son johnny clarke n lisa straubs murder
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Oh really Maytee.. who says they are suspects? LE or YOU? 
IMO-The questioning, polygraph test, DNA swab & finger printing if all true... leads me to believe that LE considers them {TW/AG} to be suspects, but they have not been named as a POI. However, I could be wrong!
"It is a capital mistake to theorize before you have all the evidence. It biases the judgment."
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and then according to Maytee:
Maytee La Cubana Vazquez She does is she forgetting the cameras on my house alarm are in every room here and shes been fucking with z since the end of summer??? Hmmmm and i record all night n day oh and fyi mine is wireless ha so noone can cut my wires if you ever thought about it before just so you know...she used z as alibi
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Thank you for posting Maytee's comment- I couldn't find it to add to my post.
"It is a capital mistake to theorize before you have all the evidence. It biases the judgment."
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(03-11-2011, 04:28 AM)BellaMia Wrote: (03-11-2011, 04:10 AM)Miss Conspiracy Wrote: (03-11-2011, 03:59 AM)DickTracy Wrote: I find it interesting that Johnny & AG have a past of some sorts. Yeah I think Maytee is off her rocker, and perhaps she does know more then she is saying, but I believe TW does too.
Maytee made it known TW & ZB have been to her place before.
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jash Wrote: TiffW...what is your take on JC's mom? do you personally know her? does she have an ax to grind with you or other members of your circle of friends?
tiffwill123:personaly i think the lady is crazy.i did not kno her i met her the night of all of this.an as soon as i told her he wasnt answering the phone she said it was my fault.i set her son up. yes i think she is against me and others.
and then according to Maytee:
Maytee La Cubana Vazquez She does is she forgetting the cameras on my house alarm are in every room here and shes been fucking with z since the end of summer??? Hmmmm and i record all night n day oh and fyi mine is wireless ha so noone can cut my wires if you ever thought about it before just so you know...she used z as alibi
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Ehh? I don't get this. So was Tiff at Maytee's house that was set up with cameras?? geez this is such a tangled web...
ummm yea sounds like she is stating that she has video taped the two of them. Is z of age? She may just of been trying to get to ap any way she could. Some of the things he was saying couldnt of been easy to listen to even if they were lies. I wish I knew what was being said from the start for her to post those comments openly. Emails, Pm?
Nevermind lol questions answered.
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ArD Going to bed now, praying hard and long that they are haunted not only tonight but forever because of what they did, and for peace for your and lisas families. Goodnight.
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clear in gods eyes...and yes u do have poor grammar and u r very naive because it doesnt matter that ive been to jail in god's eyes as long as i REPENT for the things that ive dont... u do know what that means right? and no i didnt graduate... i got my ged when i was 16 and am currently in my second semester of college so chill wit that weak insults u dumb ass bitch......and i dont care where ur from....ur obviously a nobody because ive never heard of u and could care less and i am a father to be and am far from being ashamed....and u people sure do talk cash shit on the computer....See More
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AG i am not tryin to be disrespectfyul TA but i jus feel i need to defend myself and tiffany for these ridiculous allegations but i am most certainly going to stay off of this page on the strength of u TA because u were very respectful in telling me to do so... i respect that and will respect her wishes
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez AD he hasnt heard of you mamas because you are class and not trash like his type so yes you are way up there with us and god and he is way down below with devil and demons sewer so AG stay of this page cus as of tomorrow you are permanetly banned
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Goodnight AD and god bless you
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AD Cool AG, well I have my diploma and my cosmetology lisence, my child is taken care of, I have a ring on my finger. You haven't heard about me because im not a trashy hood rat like the people you associate with. And yes I am a bitch, but im not a murderer. But im not going to argue with someone with the mentality of a 12 year old. I hope your innocent, but I know better. Goodnight AG! (:
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AG and TA my mouth doesnt matter in god's eyes...im not goin to bite my tongue for a lady that is as disrespectful as this woman but i appreciate how respectful u jus were to me so i am goin to dislike this page and u have my word i will never come on this website and say anything again
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AG i am far from a murderer and i wanna cut into u but i jus gave TA my word and i wont blow that up for nobody especially somebody that feels they have to flaunt what they have? good for u AD
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AD I have more than you could hope for, and I will always be a better human being than you, that's something to flaunt correct 
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Yes AD you will always be a way better person because you dont rob people with guns to their heads you dont murder innocent people to steal from them and you love god thank you AD for being a beautiful soul and you too TA love you both god bless
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continuing with the exchange at the top of this page..
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whoeevr TA is mind ur own business please..put urself in my shoes..would u life bein disrespected on a daily basios over something u didnt do? n o u wouldnt and murder at that...u do not know where im comin from at all so please dont spe...ak to me..i would appreciate it and im going to dislike this page and i wont be on here talkin no more and god does know that im not guilty and i cant wait for the day that the truth comes out...u have no idead how me or my gurlfriend feel about all this so yeajus mind ur business please sir or ma'amSee More
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AG this is my business...Maytee is my friend and she just lost her son and you on the other hand should show some respect no matter what! If I was accused of something and I know I didn't do it then I sure wouldn't be wasting my time wor...rying and let the law handle their jobs! why come to talk smack to a grieving mother with all the disrespect you're coming at her with! I'm a child of God and I do believe in leaving vengeance to God! It's a very sad world we live in and believe me we should all be praying and serving God and asking him for forgiveness for our sins!! God will definitely take care of this in his time and for your sake I hope you didn't have any part of this because you'll be the one to have to pay the price!!See More
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JG AG this is "my" buisness johnny was my lil cuz so where was your bitch when she didnt even have the balls to call the cops and she had a friend call maytee two hours later an apology dont make me laugh bitch is lucky i aint in toledo cause ill be tearing that ass up pregnant or not!
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Amen mama people like them even askin for forgiveness do not go to heaven they have a one way ticket to hell remember god hates ugly
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez I love u JG gracias mamita este desgraciado no me deja tranquila (translation: thanks this loser won't leave me alone)
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez TA eras una buena amiga te quiero mucho y gracias por siempre estar a mi lado (translation: thank you you are a great friend I love you very much and thank you for always being by my side)
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(03-11-2011, 03:33 AM)Miss Conspiracy Wrote: I'm sorry but I think Maytee is going WAY OVER THE LINE wishing death on completely innocent child (Tiff's unborn baby) that is truly SICK and DISGUSTING!!!
I don't give her a pass anymore, she's a fuckin' loon.
It's been said that law enforcement has repeatedly asked her to stop posting this bullshit. If that's a true statement then she's a moron as well.
She's wishing DEATH upon people. She said that kid's mom was probably disgusted by him, I wonder what her kids think about her. If she were my mom, I'd try to distance myself from her too, she's low class & uncouth, a complete & utter embarrassment. Some forgive her the vicious attacks because her son was murdered, I don't. She's a hypocrite.
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(03-11-2011, 06:37 AM)Duchess Wrote: (03-11-2011, 03:33 AM)Miss Conspiracy Wrote: I'm sorry but I think Maytee is going WAY OVER THE LINE wishing death on completely innocent child (Tiff's unborn baby) that is truly SICK and DISGUSTING!!!
I don't give her a pass anymore, she's a fuckin' loon.
It's been said that law enforcement has repeatedly asked her to stop posting this bullshit. If that's a true statement then she's a moron as well.
She's wishing DEATH upon people. She said that kid's mom was probably disgusted by him, I wonder what her kids think about her. If she were my mom, I'd try to distance myself from her too, she's low class & uncouth, a complete & utter embarrassment. Some forgive her the vicious attacks because her son was murdered, I don't. She's a hypocrite.
I could not agree more  How is she going to press charges on AG for harassment when she is just as guilty (if not more so). This woman has serious issues and I don't think it's from losing her son, I think this is HER, being a real azz bitch. The life insurance thing completely cracked me up, like she's all big and bad because she doesn't have life insurance policies on her family, when really that's just idiotic. I don't believe her about the cameras and security system on her house either. I don't know if AG is innocent, but I give his words more credence than I do Maytee's at this point. Did she really have the balls to say she has never been in trouble? Does she not realize her record is public information? I wonder what her prior name was that AG was referring to?
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(03-11-2011, 04:10 AM)Miss Conspiracy Wrote: (03-11-2011, 03:59 AM)DickTracy Wrote: I find it interesting that Johnny & AG have a past of some sorts. Yeah I think Maytee is off her rocker, and perhaps she does know more then she is saying, but I believe TW does too.
Maytee made it known TW & ZB have been to her place before.
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jash Wrote: TiffW...what is your take on JC's mom? do you personally know her? does she have an ax to grind with you or other members of your circle of friends?
tiffwill123:personaly i think the lady is crazy.i did not kno her i met her the night of all of this.an as soon as i told her he wasnt answering the phone she said it was my fault.i set her son up. yes i think she is against me and others.
and then according to Maytee:
Maytee La Cubana Vazquez She does is she forgetting the cameras on my house alarm are in every room here and shes been fucking with z since the end of summer??? Hmmmm and i record all night n day oh and fyi mine is wireless ha so noone can cut my wires if you ever thought about it before just so you know...she used z as alibi
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Ehh? I don't get this. So was Tiff at Maytee's house that was set up with cameras?? geez this is such a tangled web...
I'm thinking they're all tangled up in this more than they're admitting. I do wonder the truth about whether they knew each other prior to that night. If TW and Johnny were friends I would think at some point they would have met since his mom seems so overbearing.
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(03-11-2011, 01:42 AM)kitty1 Wrote: (03-11-2011, 01:35 AM)Miss Conspiracy Wrote: (03-10-2011, 03:56 AM)concerned Wrote: Another thought I have is this.... Now read this and think about the actual crime scene. I know for a fact that this crime scene was a " massacre". I will get this out of the way and let you all know I am "UNKNOWN" sister. Whoever did this had to have left the crime scene covered in blood. No way around it.
I'm sorry but I'm really having a hard time believing that the crime scene was a "massacre" or as bloody as some have said. I mean doesn't it seem very strange and odd that Maytee NEVER said a word about blood except for a little blood on the side of Lisa's head? Even in the heat of the moment when Maytee called 911 and was hysterical describing the crime scene to the operator ("they were laying w/bags over their heads and duct tape, phone on the chest, lisa has no shirt/pants on", etc) not a PEEP about a ton of blood? I watch a lot of true crime shows and many real 911 calls and almost always the person calling 911 talks about "their's blood everywhere!" or "he/she's covered in blood!" etc. It's just so weird to me that something like that would not get mentioned in the 911 calls, the TV interview that Maytee gave describing the scene, etc. Granted, she probably didn't see the scene herself, but wouldn't the John Sr. tell her about it?
Also, if John Sr. went up to both bodies and removed the bags, wouldn't he essentially have blood on him? Has anyone heard about this?? I suppose it could have been dried up by then... ack.. I dont know!!
I cannot recall who posted it but someone said that Maytee did go inside. I think it was JSMOM but I could be wrong. If she did in fact go in then I also find it strange that she didn't mention the blood ???
yes, Maytee, did mention to me about being inside
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez
AG has not stopped harrasing me tormenting me or making death threats against me and my family i have contacted law enforcement since him and gf TW have been suspects in my son johnny clarke and lisa straubs murder.
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Am shocked but her actions. I do know (through my family) that using negative "spells" as such come back at you twice fold.. or something similar.(in the Wicca sense) I was especially shocked when she wished harm/death to an unborn child. She really needs to speak with someone from the mental health team(or USA equivalent) I am very worried for her other children
I have found this in relation to "negative spells"
http://www.askroseariadne.com/black-magic-spells.html
not sure if it the best example but it is common knowledge for any witch etc that negative spells are a no no or expect more in return.
Maytee to me seems to know more and has wanted to distance herself from the guilt from the start . Things I have read that she has said come across very strange, as if she new already what to expect. I have to say up until recently I was not overly worried about Maytee's behaviour and was seeing it as an extremely bad way of dealing with her loss. Now I am very worried/concerned for the safety of her children.
(I am dosed up on meds so I hope what I have written makes sense)
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(03-11-2011, 09:02 AM)lou1975 Wrote: Maytee La Cubana Vazquez
Am shocked but her actions. I do know (through my family) that using negative "spells" as such come back at you twice fold.. or something similar.(in the Wicca sense) I was especially shocked when she wished harm/death to an unborn child.
I have found this in relation to "negative spells"
You are absolutely correct!! do no harm to none! And the rule is anything you do, will come back to you.
After working over night, I thought I would stop by the forum and see if there had been any news of an arrest... and OH MY MY... WOW..no but really, just WOW  !!!
I LOVE God, but his fan club scares the shit out of me!!!
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(03-11-2011, 02:33 AM)Miss Conspiracy Wrote: AG "what do u need an alarm systrem for if ur a witch? cant u jus spread some of ur fairy dust around the house to keep all evil away?"
lol i'm sorry that was just funny.
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