Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[kitty1]

when you call people MORONS, it's more effective if you spell it correctly.

[grey sweat pants]

This is why Lisa's family distanced themselves from her right away. She is a loon who has lost her mind. She is doing nothing but harming the case and making it more difficult for LE.

[JsMom]

JsMom, you're a laugh riot. Maydoo?

just the damn truth duchess!

[JsMom]

when you call people MORONS, it's more effective if you spell it correctly.

BAHAHAHAHA. Wow!

And to JsMom- of course Maytee has no f'n clue who did this to Johnny & Lisa. Come on, w/all her rants & threats/promises, if she actually knew who did this, wouldn't the perps already have blown up, had their heads pop off or at least "poof be gone."

Thanks for the early morning giggles.

lmao RIGHT!

[Jane]

She claims the reason Tiffany drove John Sr to the home, was so Maytee could trap her there, & make sure she talked to LE.

I must have missed this somewhere, where did Maytee ever say that? I've heard all kinds of theories about why John Sr accepted a ride from Tiffany, some outlandish & disgusting.... but never do I recall Maytee herself explaining why John Sr rode with Tiffany. Anyone else?

She posted it at "Justice Will Prevail" just shortly before I posted it, here at Mock. I don't have time to catch up totally, but will try to, later this afternoon. Have a good one, folks!

[JsMom]

When I frist came here I had alot of people jumping down my throat! She disrespected me when I was trying to honestly be there for her to vent to and then some and this is why she got called a BITCH! I hope most of you can see where I am coming from! WISHING DEATH (everyone knows DEATH is forever) on people and their children! Theres no damn words sick enough to describe her or her threats! IM DONE and I DONT feel for her! Whom I feel for is her lil boys, JCsr and the Straubs! My gut is sick from her heinous mouth! she better remember GOD DONT LIKE UGLY and UR UGLY as they come! O yah and GODS CHILDREN are NOT witches! I ac not believe you! U MAKE ME AND MANY MORE SICK!!! Why dont u wait to RUN UR FUCKIN MOUTH until LE makes a arrest!!! WISH DEATH THEN! I have never in my life meet someone so ignorant as u are! I am mad at myself for even being there for you at all! GROW THE FUCK UP LADY! I know I wasnt online during my time of grief! I will NEVER waste my time even typing ur name or mentioning ANYTHING about U! BELIEVE THAT! ugh! YOU MAKE ME SICK!!!! I hope you can live with urself! The threats you make to these people have a better chance of hittin u in the ASS then these ignorant curses you have put out on everyone! I cant even waste my time anymore tellin you what a worthless mf u are! LET LE do their JOB and SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!

[Freshbait78]

She posted it at "Justice Will Prevail" just shortly before I posted it, here at Mock. I don't have time to catch up totally, but will try to, later this afternoon. Have a good one, folks!

Ahhh ok thanks Jane!! That's why I missed it. I unliked that page weeks ago & only go there if I'm alerted to something happening on there.... like last night. WOW. I'm sure glad my child had a 2 hour delay at school because of the snow we got last night, because I stayed up WAY to late!!

[RaisingAPrince]

Does anyone know if she works? I mean she's online all day and all night. Granted I'm online all day, I have an office job and can do that. Just makes me wonder what she does with her life. And I know she's on her phone when she does most of her posting, but still my boss wouldn't be too happy if I were on my phone non-stop. Just curious.

[lou1975]

motherfucker

[Miss Conspiracy]

I'm sorry but I think Maytee is going WAY OVER THE LINE wishing death on completely innocent child (Tiff's unborn baby) that is truly SICK and DISGUSTING!!!

I don't give her a pass anymore, she's a fuckin' loon.

It's been said that law enforcement has repeatedly asked her to stop posting this bullshit. If that's a true statement then she's a moron as well.

She's wishing DEATH upon people. She said that kid's mom was probably disgusted by him, I wonder what her kids think about her. If she were my mom, I'd try to distance myself from her too, she's low class & uncouth, a complete & utter embarrassment. Some forgive her the vicious attacks because her son was murdered, I don't. She's a hypocrite.

Hi Duchess!
AG told me personally last night that the detectives are trying to ban Maytee from Facebook.

[fabulous]

MM: time to lay it down an beat tha pussy up goodnite fb stalker's

ahh that MM is one class act lol

BAHAHAH....this made me laugh too.
what a D-bag!

[fabulous]

I'm sorry but I think Maytee is going WAY OVER THE LINE wishing death on completely innocent child (Tiff's unborn baby) that is truly SICK and DISGUSTING!!!

I don't give her a pass anymore, she's a fuckin' loon.

It's been said that law enforcement has repeatedly asked her to stop posting this bullshit. If that's a true statement then she's a moron as well.

She's wishing DEATH upon people. She said that kid's mom was probably disgusted by him, I wonder what her kids think about her. If she were my mom, I'd try to distance myself from her too, she's low class & uncouth, a complete & utter embarrassment. Some forgive her the vicious attacks because her son was murdered, I don't. She's a hypocrite.

Hi Duchess!
AG told me personally last night that the detectives are trying to ban Maytee from Facebook.

i know FOR A FACT that LE has told her to shut the fuck up.

she is so out of line. OMG. she is so out of line (I'm stunned, and that's all I can say for her!)

but in reading all of that back and forth FB nonsense....I totally believe that she was involved with snitching in the past. There was a rumor here locally right from the get-go that she and JC sr were involved in a drug bust, snitched, tongue cut, etc. and NOT that I believe everything that comes out of AG's mouth...but it was the way she responded or DIDN"T respond to his constant barrage of "snitch" comments. just my opinion of course. I think it's telling.

what is that quote that comes to mind..."sometimes it's all in the details"....

[trixie]

Hi Duchess!
AG told me personally last night that the detectives are trying to ban Maytee from Facebook.

Thank god!!!!

[JsMom]

Does anyone know if she works? I mean she's online all day and all night. Granted I'm online all day, I have an office job and can do that. Just makes me wonder what she does with her life. And I know she's on her phone when she does most of her posting, but still my boss wouldn't be too happy if I were on my phone non-stop. Just curious.

I have an office job as well. I work for my father at our family car lot.

[Miss Conspiracy]

I'm sorry but I think Maytee is going WAY OVER THE LINE wishing death on completely innocent child (Tiff's unborn baby) that is truly SICK and DISGUSTING!!!

I don't give her a pass anymore, she's a fuckin' loon.

It's been said that law enforcement has repeatedly asked her to stop posting this bullshit. If that's a true statement then she's a moron as well.

She's wishing DEATH upon people. She said that kid's mom was probably disgusted by him, I wonder what her kids think about her. If she were my mom, I'd try to distance myself from her too, she's low class & uncouth, a complete & utter embarrassment. Some forgive her the vicious attacks because her son was murdered, I don't. She's a hypocrite.

Hi Duchess!
AG told me personally last night that the detectives are trying to ban Maytee from Facebook.

i know FOR A FACT that LE has told her to shut the fuck up.

she is so out of line. OMG. she is so out of line (I'm stunned, and that's all I can say for her!)

but in reading all of that back and forth FB nonsense....I totally believe that she was involved with snitching in the past. There was a rumor here locally right from the get-go that she and JC sr were involved in a drug bust, snitched, tongue cut, etc. and NOT that I believe everything that comes out of AG's mouth...but it was the way she responded or DIDN"T respond to his constant barrage of "snitch" comments. just my opinion of course. I think it's telling.

what is that quote that comes to mind..."sometimes it's all in the details"....

Ahh right thanks for reminding me, that is one thing I was curious about and going to bring up. I found it interesting how she did NOT address ANY of what AG (or TW said for that matter) when he was talking about her being an informant/snitch/history of snitching. Hmmm... she did not even try and defend herself that she did not do that. he even mentioned that her name is different now?? I thought someone that knew her from high school or something that her name has always been Maytee. WHO knows!

[Freshbait78]

Hi Duchess!
AG told me personally last night that the detectives are trying to ban Maytee from Facebook.

I think that's what she needs for atleast her own benefit but I just don't see how they could do that. What are they planning to do, take away her iphone? lol She'd just find a different way to get online. The only way I can see them keeping her offline is to arrest her, which they probably could for making threats, although.... would it be considered a threat to wish for bad things to happen to someone? I don't know... Is a witches curse considered a weapon? And if she were arrested, she wouldn't be kept long so she'd be offline for a couple hours maybe.

[fabulous]

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Ahh right thanks for reminding me, that is one thing I was curious about and going to bring up. I found it interesting how she did NOT address ANY of what AG (or TW said for that matter) when he was talking about her being an informant/snitch/history of snitching. Hmmm... she did not even try and defend herself that she did not do that. he even mentioned that her name is different now?? I thought someone that knew her from high school or something that her name has always been Maytee. WHO knows!


[/quote]

now...I wouldn't think twice of someone not defending themselves against him (AG) I know that I *probably* wouldn't engage in that kind of word battle with him, if I was her, but since she DOES and IS constantly on the troll for what to say, who to respond to, posting every other minute, constantly off her nut, etc. then SHE IS THE TYPE that would defend herself against these types of allegations AND SHE HASN'T.
is that cause she knows that the internet would BLOW UP with all kinds of information, cause everyone knows she's a snitch/CI/informant whatever that she would not be able to really defend herself?

[Nina]

All that I've been reading on FB (Justice, MM, BC's pages, etc) and on here (mocker's opinions on all these people and theories) really has my head spinning. I was initially convinced that at the very least AG, MM, & BC know what happened that night. But then I look at their comments from friends and comments on people on here that know them say and I think " no, they are just a bunch of hood rats - thug wanna-bes" - they seem too dumb to do this kind of thing. But then I think about how I don't know anyone in real life that could even conceive of doing something like this. You expect that person to look like a monster or act like one on a daily basis. However the scary thing about psychopaths is that they can hide behind a persona that makes them look normal to the world when in reality they don't have a conscience. Do these characteristics remind you of some of these people?:

• Glib and Superficial Charm
• Grandiose Self-Worth
• Pathological Lying
• Conning and Manipulativeness
• Lack of Remorse or Guilt
• Shallow Affect
• Callousness and Lack of Empathy
• Parasitic Lifestyle
• Promiscuous Sexual Behavior
• Many Short-Term Relationships
• Juvenile Delinquency
• Criminal Versatility
• Revocation of Condition Release - A revocation of probation or other conditional release due to technical violations, such as carelessness, low deliberation, or failing to appear.

My point is that I doubt we will be able to judge any of them based on what they say or how they act. However, the fact that they are all so connected and AG, MM, and BC were all talking to each other about revenge, etc literally days before this murder. Then COINCIDENTALLY, TW of all people just happens to be the one on the phone with JC and LS. In the following days, BC and MM are in hiding out of state and TW/AG are snapping smiley/kissy pictures , going on shopping sprees at the mall, and threatening people with a beat down on FB (contrary to AG's claims that TW cried for a week) after their so-called "friends" were brutally murdered.
I will not be ruling any of these people out yet because I still think the killers were known associates of LS/JW and these people still make the most sense to me - that they either did it or know who did. The accusations, denials, and threats are all of a sudden all over FB, not just on Maytee's page, so I HOPE that means the pressure is on and people are panicking. Maybe someone will finally step up with the info LE needs to tie this up.

[Nina]

I agree that Maytee has crossed over into the land of crazy but then again I can't say I blame her. Right or wrong, she thinks these people KILLED her child and they are still out and about - her threats and curses are nothing compared to what I would want to do to them. If I knew for sure, I would probably literally kill them - consequences be damned. The FB stuff is way over the top and is making her much less sympathetic but who knows, maybe she will get someone mad enough to trip up and say the wrong thing.

And can I just ask of you normal people, why does it seem like some people think that being a SNITCH is worse than being a freakin' MURDERER ? These people are acting like that is the absolute worse insult you can put on someone - worse than insulting your Mama. With that mentality in this crowd, its no wonder that LE hasn't solved this yet. If I knew someone, anyone, that killed someone this brutally I would "snitch" on them in a heartbeat. So its ok that you beat women, deal drugs, rob houses - are just a menace to society in general - but at least you are not a tattle tale - god bless.

[fabulous]

I'm also confused about the crime scene...and what we know and DON'T know about it..
I've heard that it was pretty bloody and that the house looked as if there was quite a struggle.
we've also heard that it looked like there was a purposeful ransacking...i.e looking for something, safe, drugs, whatever

but yet, Maytee or nobody else early on, really mentioned any blood, other than a small pool on Lisas face, or by her head or whatever. it seems that if the crime scene was all bloodied up...something would have been said!

also...I wonder what it is that super mom knows about the crime scene. like how she keep saying "we dont know" anything and when the truth comes out we'll all be surprised, shocked, etc. and that the only people to see it is her and LE and JC sr. and we aren't telling what we saw? I just wonder what all of that means.