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Fuck Muhammad!!!
(02-05-2015, 10:05 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: Obama does nothing but bow to Muslim leaders (look at the pics) and take potshots at his own country.

To compare the Crusades which ended 700+ years ago to today's IS is treasonous. The Crusades were in response to Islamic violence (see a trend?) whereas IS is slaughtering innocents in the name of Mohammed.

In the New Testament you won't find one reference to Jesus telling his followers to kill non-believers. In fact he says "Love your enemy."

However, what does the Koran say on many occasions? You got it: Kill the infidel if he does not become a Muslim.

I hope there's enough outrage in the Muslim world over the killing of the Pilot that they commit 100% to wiping these scum from the face of the earth.

And Obama should be mocked and ridiculed until the end of his presidency for being such a fucking wimp.

(02-06-2015, 03:27 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: I don't know Mo, crucifying children, burying children alive, throwing people off buildings, stoning people and now, burning people alive.

Glad you find it so easy to just shrug that stuff off.

And I'm not saying the U.S. should necessarily lead the way here. Countries like Jordan are taking prominent roles, but Saudi Arabia is the wildcard. Sunni's like IS, it'll be difficult for them to take up arms I believe.

As President, Obama needs to be more of a leader, devising game plans, etc, because as you're aware, the history of our country DOES revolve around lending a helping hand, wherever needed.

Folks like you suggest it's merely because we're serving our interests only, and is a couple of instances it's be hard to argue.

In the case of IS, it looks like this is spreading rapidly. Most rationale, humane people can't tolerate a 'state' conducting itself in this manner.

As for Mexico, because very one loves to bring them up, they are actually improving internally. Yes, the beheadings were shocking, but we're mainly relegated to drug cartel violence against each other, not slaughtering people who don't agree with a certain ideology (IS).


You are wrong on so many levels, I don't even know where to start. I'm glad that you chose to quote just the new testament and ignore the rest of the bible completely. The bible supposedly was the justification for denying interracial marriage (until thankfully laws were passed that denied the religious extremists their right to dictate how people live/laws based on THEIR religious beliefs)
now gay marriage is a civil rights, legal issue largely because bible thumpers want to impose their views on the rest of society. And then there are these atrocities committed by bible thumping or political extremists. This article is critical of Republicans in general. I disagree with that except to the extent that the right-wing is now criticizing Obama for pointing out certain very truthful facts related to Christian based or religious right extremist viewpoints and terrorism associated with any extremists (whether their violence stems from some supposed religious or political ideology). Bottom line, there are nut cases from every religious, cultural, political group/faction. I think that was the point that Obama was trying to make.


Below are 10 of the worst examples of non-Islamic terrorism that have occurred in the United States in the last 30 years.

1. Wisconsin Sikh Temple massacre, Aug. 5, 2012. The virulent, neocon-fueled Islamophobia that has plagued post-9/11 America has not only posed a threat to Muslims, it has had deadly consequences for people of other faiths, including Sikhs. Sikhs are not Muslims; the traditional Sikh attire, including their turbans, is different from traditional Sunni, Shiite or Sufi attire. But to a racist, a bearded Sikh looks like a Muslim. Only four days after 9/11, Balbir Singh Sodhi, a Sikh immigrant from India who owned a gas station in Mesa, Arizona, was murdered by Frank Silva Roque, a racist who obviously mistook him for a Muslim.

But Sodhi’s murder was not the last example of anti-Sikh violence in post-9/11 America. On Aug. 5, 2012, white supremacist Wade Michael Page used a semiautomatic weapon to murder six people during an attack on a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. Page’s connection to the white supremacist movement was well-documented: he had been a member of the neo-Nazi rock bands End Empathy and Definite Hate. Attorney General Eric Holder described the attack as “an act of terrorism, an act of hatred.” It was good to see the nation’s top cop acknowledge that terrorist acts can, in fact, involve white males murdering people of color.

2. The murder of Dr. George Tiller, May 31, 2009. Imagine that a physician had been the victim of an attempted assassination by an Islamic jihadist in 1993, and received numerous death threats from al-Qaeda after that, before being murdered by an al-Qaeda member. Neocons, Fox News and the Christian Right would have had a field day. A physician was the victim of a terrorist killing that day, but neither the terrorist nor the people who inflamed the terrorist were Muslims. Dr. George Tiller, who was shot and killed by anti-abortion terrorist Scott Roeder on May 31, 2009, was a victim of Christian Right terrorism, not al-Qaeda.

Tiller had a long history of being targeted for violence by Christian Right terrorists. In 1986, his clinic was firebombed. Then, in 1993, Tiller was shot five times by female Christian Right terrorist Shelly Shannon (now serving time in a federal prison) but survived that attack. Given that Tiller had been the victim of an attempted murder and received countless death threats after that, Fox News would have done well to avoid fanning the flames of unrest. Instead, Bill O’Reilly repeatedly referred to him as “Tiller the baby killer.” When Roeder murdered Tiller, O’Reilly condemned the attack but did so in a way that was lukewarm at best.

Keith Olbermann called O’Reilly out and denounced him as a “facilitator for domestic terrorism” and a “blindly irresponsible man.” And Crazy for Godauthor Frank Schaffer, who was formerly a figure on the Christian Right but has since become critical of that movement, asserted that the Christian Right’s extreme anti-abortion rhetoric “helped create the climate that made this murder likely to happen.” Neocon Ann Coulter, meanwhile, viewed Tiller’s murder as a source of comic relief, telling O’Reilly, “I don’t really like to think of it as a murder. It was terminating Tiller in the 203rd trimester.” The Republican/neocon double standard when it comes to terrorism is obvious. At Fox News and AM neocon talk radio, Islamic terrorism is a source of nonstop fear-mongering, while Christian Right terrorism gets a pass.

3. Knoxville Unitarian Universalist Church shooting, July 27, 2008. On July 27, 2008, Christian Right sympathizer Jim David Adkisson walked into the Knoxville Unitarian Universalist Church in Knoxville, Tennessee during a children’s play and began shooting people at random. Two were killed, while seven others were injured but survived. Adkisson said he was motivated by a hatred of liberals, Democrats and gays, and he considered neocon Bernard Goldberg’s book, 100 People Who Are Screwing Up America, his political manifesto. Adkisson (who pleaded guilty to two counts of first-degree murder and is now serving life in prison without parole) was vehemently anti-abortion, but apparently committing an act of terrorism during a children’s play was good ol’ family values. While Adkisson’s act of terrorism was reported on Fox News, it didn’t get the round-the-clock coverage an act of Islamic terrorism would have garnered.

4. The murder of Dr. John Britton, July 29, 1994. To hear the Christian Right tell it, there is no such thing as Christian terrorism. Tell that to the victims of the Army of God, a loose network of radical Christianists with a long history of terrorist attacks on abortion providers. One Christian Right terrorist with ties to the Army of God was Paul Jennings Hill, who was executed by lethal injection on Sept. 3, 2003 for the murders of abortion doctor John Britton and his bodyguard James Barrett. Hill shot both of them in cold blood and expressed no remorse whatsoever; he insisted he was doing’s God’s work and has been exalted as a martyr by the Army of God.

5. The Centennial Olympic Park bombing, July 27, 1996. Paul Jennings Hill is hardly the only Christian terrorist who has been praised by the Army of God; that organization has also praised Eric Rudolph, who is serving life without parole for a long list of terrorist attacks committed in the name of Christianity. Rudolph is best known for carrying out the Olympic Park bombing in Atlanta during the 1996 Summer Olympics—a blast that killed spectator Alice Hawthorne and wounded 111 others. Hawthorne wasn’t the only person Rudolph murdered: his bombing of an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama in 1998 caused the death of Robert Sanderson (a Birmingham police officer and part-time security guard) and caused nurse Emily Lyons to lose an eye.

Rudolph’s other acts of Christian terrorism include bombing the Otherwise Lounge (a lesbian bar in Atlanta) in 1997 and an abortion clinic in an Atlanta suburb in 1997. Rudolph was no lone wolf: he was part of a terrorist movement that encouraged his violence. And the Army of God continues to exalt Rudolph as a brave Christian who is doing God’s work.

6. The murder of Barnett Slepian byJames Charles Kopp, Oct. 23, 1998. Like Paul Jennings Hill, Eric Rudolph and Scott Roeder, James Charles Kopp is a radical Christian terrorist who has been exalted as a hero by the Army of God. On Oct. 23, 1998 Kopp fired a single shot into the Amherst, NY home of Barnett Slepian (a doctor who performed abortions), mortally wounding him. Slepian died an hour later. Kopp later claimed he only meant to wound Slepian, not kill him. But Judge Michael D’Amico of Erin County, NY said that the killing was clearly premeditated and sentenced Kopp to 25 years to life. Kopp is a suspect in other anti-abortion terrorist attacks, including the non-fatal shootings of three doctors in Canada, though it appears unlikely that Kopp will be extradited to Canada to face any charges.

7. Planned Parenthood bombing, Brookline, Massachusetts, 1994. Seldom has the term “Christian terrorist” been used in connection with John C. Salvi on AM talk radio or at Fox News, but it’s a term that easily applies to him. In 1994, the radical anti-abortionist and Army of God member attacked a Planned Parenthood clinic in Brookline, Massachusetts, shooting and killing receptionists Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols and wounding several others. Salvi was found dead in his prison cell in 1996, and his death was ruled a suicide. The Army of God has exalted Salvi as a Christian martyr and described Lowney and Nichols not as victims of domestic terrorism, but as infidels who got what they deserved. The Rev. Donald Spitz, a Christianist and Army of God supporter who is so extreme that even the radical anti-abortion group Operation Rescue disassociated itself from him, has praised Salvi as well.

8. Suicide attack on IRS building in Austin, Texas, Feb. 18, 2010. When Joseph Stack flew a plane into the Echelon office complex (where an IRS office was located), Fox News’ coverage of the incident was calm and matter-of-fact. Republican Rep. Steve King of Iowa seemed to find the attack amusing and joked that it could have been avoided if the federal government had followed his advice and abolished the IRS. Nonetheless, there were two fatalities: Stack and IRS employee Vernon Hunter. Stack left behind a rambling suicide note outlining his reasons for the attack, which included a disdain for the IRS as well as total disgust with health insurance companies and bank bailouts. Some of the most insightful coverage of the incident came from Noam Chomsky, who said that while Stack had some legitimate grievances—millions of Americans shared his outrage over bank bailouts and the practices of health insurance companies—the way he expressed them was absolutely wrong.

9. The murder of Alan Berg, June 18, 1984. One of the most absurd claims some have made about white supremacists is that they are liberals and progressives. That claim is especially ludicrous in light of the terrorist killing of liberal Denver-based talk show host Alan Berg, a critic of white supremacists who was killed with an automatic weapon on June 18, 1984. The killing was linked to members of the Order, a white supremacist group that had marked Berg for death. Order members David Lane (a former Ku Klux Klan member who had also been active in the Aryan Nations) and Bruce Pierce were both convicted in federal court on charges of racketeering, conspiracy and violating Berg’s civil rights and given what amounted to life sentences.

Robert Matthews, who founded the Order, got that name from a fictional group in white supremacist William Luther Pierce’s anti-Semitic 1978 novel, The Turner Diaries—a book Timothy McVeigh was quite fond of. The novel’s fictional account of the destruction of a government building has been described as the inspiration for the Oklahoma City bombing of 1995.

10. Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma City bombing, April 19, 1995.Neocons and Republicans grow angry and uncomfortable whenever Timothy McVeigh is cited as an example of a non-Islamic terrorist. Pointing out that a non-Muslim white male carried out an attack as vicious and deadly as the Oklahoma City bombing doesn’t fit into the narrative that only Muslims and people of color are capable of carrying out terrorist attacks. Neocons will claim that bringing up McVeigh’s name during a discussion of terrorism is a “red herring” that distracts us from fighting radical Islamists, but that downplays the cruel, destructive nature of the attack.

Prior to the al-Qaeda attacks of 9/11, the Oklahoma City bombing McVeigh orchestrated was the most deadly terrorist attack in U.S. history: 168 people were killed and more than 600 were injured. When McVeigh drove a truck filled with explosives into the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, his goal was to kill as many people as possible. Clearly, McVeigh was not motivated by radical Islam; rather, he was motivated by an extreme hatred for the U.S. government and saw the attack as revenge for the Ruby Ridge incident of 1992 and the Waco Siege in 1993. He had white supremacist leanings as well (when he was in the U.S. Army, McVeigh was reprimanded for wearing a “white power” T-shirt he had bought at a KKK demonstration). McVeigh was executed on June 11, 2001.
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Christian bible thumpers are as sucky as some extremists in that it is their way or the highway. You'd think that those who claim to be at one with God would be the most tolerant and loving. Nothing could be further from the truth where they are concerned.
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Waow, user just got me all wet! Smiley_emoticons_smile

But yes, it's like Maggot's saying, money is the root of all evil. At least around here it is. Because of that article I was checking what actually happened to the Shah of Persia that time, and alas, it was the money powers fucking around once again. There you had a democratically elected leader but clearly he was on the wrong side of ... democracy.

By the early 1950s, the political crisis brewing in Iran commanded the attention of British and American policy leaders. In 1951, Mohammad Mosaddegh was appointed Prime Minister and committed to nationalizing the Iranian petroleum industry controlled by the Anglo-Persian Oil Company. Under the leadership of Mosaddegh's democratically elected nationalist movement, the Iranian parliament unanimously voted to nationalize the oil industry – thus shutting out the immensely profitable Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC), which was a pillar of Britain's economy and provided it political clout in the region.

Under the direction of Kermit Roosevelt, Jr., a senior Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) officer and grandson of former U.S. President Theodore Roosevelt, the American CIA and British Secret Intelligence Service (SIS) funded and led a covert operation to depose Mosaddegh with the help of military forces disloyal to the democratically elected government. Referred to as Operation Ajax,[9] the plot hinged on orders signed by Mohammad Reza to dismiss Mosaddegh as prime minister and replace him with General Fazlollah Zahedi – a choice agreed on by the British and Americans.

It's like Egypt in 1951 Smiley_emoticons_smile

Now this part made me actually laugh a bit as it is by good old Madame Albright.

U.S. actions further solidified sentiments that the West was a meddlesome influence in Iranian politics. In the year 2000, reflecting on this notion, U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright stated:

"In 1953 the United States played a significant role in orchestrating the overthrow of Iran's popular Prime Minister, Mohammad Mosaddegh. The Eisenhower Administration believed its actions were justified for strategic reasons; but the coup was clearly a setback for Iran's political development. And it is easy to see now why many Iranians continue to resent this intervention by America in their internal affairs."


It made me laugh because I was right on spot listening to her in Jakarta when she was a main part of taking Suharto down in 1998. Hilarious. Especially her last sentence.

So there is a lot of bad feelings all over the place and because of that I say America, stay the fuck out of here!

Let them handle it because if they don't, they will blame you for all the shit happening. And many times they are not even wrong really. Forget here, ask Guatemala, and a few others. Did you know IS is carrying US made weapons? Most probably to fight Assad, but my, did that backfire again, no?

The World is so wonderfully and horribly complicated, why can't we just drive thru peaceful fields on our bicycles and straw hats anymore?!
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(02-08-2015, 08:38 AM)Mohammed Wrote: Waow, user just got me all wet!

You and me both, buddy, but I was first! hah

User is like the mama honey badger in heat at the moment; super defensive of her own, super tired and not to be fucked with. And all that makes her kinda super hawt...
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I think I would take Jesus before picking Mohammad as the nicer guy.
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Based on everything I've heard, it does sound like Jesus was a nice guy.

But...
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hah

There's some funny stuff in here.

I still find it mind boggling that the Da'ish (the name I shall now use for them) fucked with the King of Jordan--a supposed direct descendant of the Prophet. While I don't mind bombing the hell out of the group (they have directly fucked with the US by killing several US hostages), I'm looking forward to them getting the shit kicked out of them by real, righteous Muslims and others who abhor their tactics in the region.

Just an FYI, the group doesn't deserve to be referred to as a[/i] "state" although I'm sure they like the idea. Fuck them. I wish the media would start referring to them as Da'ish...the more, the merrier.

The name Daʿish is often used by ISIL's Arabic-speaking detractors. It is based on the Arabic letters dāl, alif, ʻayn, and shīn, which form the acronym (داعش) of ISIL's Arabic name al-Dawlah al-Islamīyah fī al-ʻIrāq wa-al-Shām.[57][58] There are many different spellings of this acronym with DAESH gaining acceptance. ISIL considers the name Da'ish derogatory for it sounds similar to the Arabic words Daes, "one who crushes something underfoot," and Dahes, "one who sows discord."[59][60]—and reportedly uses flogging as a punishment for those who use the name in ISIL-controlled areas.
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User, good post...it must have taken forever to research and put that together.

Mo, I always enjoy your perspective and learning about the political intricacies of this current mess in our world.
I chuckled about the straw hats and riding through the rice paddies (think that is what you said). In Hong Kong, back in the 50's my friend and I bought "straw" hats as it was raining and they turned out to be perfect rain hats. When we arrived at airport, everyone was pointing and giggling at us. Guess we bought "coolie" hats which wasn't a good thing in the caste system at the time...
Later at the Special Services Hotel at base of Fuji Mountain in Japan, my boyfriend and i rode a motorbike through the rice paddies with a straw hat (yes, it was raining at the time), but everyone just waved at us. We were staying at the Hotel which was then owned by U.S. (result of WW2); the Hotel has since been turned back over to the Japanese Gov't....Oh what memories. Riding through the rain in the rice paddies with straw hats and my true love....(well, one of them).
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(02-08-2015, 06:44 PM)blueberryhill Wrote: Oh what memories. Riding through the rain in the rice paddies with straw hats and my true love....(well, one of them).


You've led a very interesting life, BH. A lot of the memories you share are fun to read.
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Oh, thanks, Duchess...guess it makes up for the super boring life i have now....I tell people to have adventures before you get too old or you just won't get around to doing it....in this fast paced world we live in today, noone can look away from their i-phones long enough to enjoy the world around them.
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(02-08-2015, 06:44 PM)blueberryhill Wrote: User, good post...it must have taken forever to research and put that together.

Are you being snarky with me? Because if you are, I just want you to know that you're never too old for me to take you out behind the shed, bend you over my knees and spank your bare ass for all it's worth. Got it???






If you meant that sincerely, nah. I'm quick with Google...that's all. Smiley_emoticons_slash
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And user does it again. I'm sitting here rubbing myself up with Tiger Balm. Bloody glorious!

Absolutely, IS or ISIL is giving them way to much credit, it shall be Daesh from now! Even Dish Dash will do.

Here I just see in the local news that another Al Qaeda department head got killed by drones, and looking at his picture, as well as those from others of his gang, I am wondering about one thing. They have this beautiful flowing long hair. They must be spending a fortune on hair care products!

Should be easy targeting them that way. You just check across a country where you have large sales of Head and Shoulders or Shampoo products.

On another note, our dear friend Bilkis, a Swiss Turkish girl working for the Human's Right's Watch, has turned either suicidal or just plain stupid. Perhaps she is backed up well by her organization but still. A few days back she put up an article on one of those English UN sites about how the former Preso Saleh was handed a Get out of Jail card for free by Benomar, who is an idiot by the way, and how all this shit with the Houtis happening right now is his doing, and just now 2 days ago she's on the local news. Only this time with picture included!

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No, she is not that bearded guy with the red barret in the top left corner, but the girl down at the bottom. It's like a message for the hunting season is opened! Silly, silly, silly!

Benomar, the guy who is in charge from the UN for all of here and who fucked it up royally from the beginning, is by the way in the top right corner. Nobody knows what exactly he is doing, even the UN folks working with him hate him, but he's been already offered a job from Qatar for a annual salary of 1 Mill US$. Nice!

Blueberry, you scrumptious Pan Am fantasy, I can actually see you walking right there next to Leonardo in that Catch me if you can movie of his, Hong Kong was fabulous. Still is. Lived there for 6 years, working on The Peak, which provided me with one of the best commutes to work ever, with the Peak Tram, and the old Ritz Carlton there. The magical fragrant city. Sometimes more, sometimes less fragrant.

I was wearing a straw hat too once, but I was not riding a bicycle but a Philippina right there on the Peak with the whole city below us. One of those unforgettable memories of my life. Not so much because of the moment with her, and the view, even so I won't complain about that one, but it was even more manifested into my mind by the fact that it was 2am, and there was not a single taxi anymore on the Peak. So we had to walk all the way down. Imagine that in high heels.

I had blisters all over next day!
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(02-09-2015, 01:19 AM)username Wrote: Are you being snarky with me? Because if you are, I just want you to know that you're never too old for me to take you out behind the shed, bend you over my knees and spank your bare ass for all it's worth.

Will you make me the same promise? Smiley_emoticons_fies
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ISIS killed this old man because they suspected him of practicing witchcraft. If they think you are doing anything they don't approve of you are as good as dead.

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Blueberry, you scrumptious Pan Am fantasy, I can actually see you walking right there next to Leonardo in that Catch me if you can movie of his, Hong Kong was fabulous. Still is. Lived there for 6 years, working on The Peak, which provided me with one of the best commutes to work ever, with the Peak Tram, and the old Ritz Carlton there. The magical fragrant city. Sometimes more, sometimes less fragrant.

I was wearing a straw hat too once, but I was not riding a bicycle but a Philippina right there on the Peak with the whole city below us. One of those unforgettable memories of my life. Not so much because of the moment with her, and the view, even so I won't complain about that one, but it was even more manifested into my mind by the fact that it was 2am, and there was not a single taxi anymore on the Peak. So we had to walk all the way down. Imagine that in high heels.

I had blisters all over next day!
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OOps,I deleted too much! Why were you wearing high heels? hah

Hong Kong was magical back in the 50's. I recall the people who lived in their small boats (size of rowboat)
I like the Pam Am fantasy...In another time, you would be my type of guy....Continue with your fabulous life, but be careful. I think you mentioned you drank gin and tonic. My favorite (not unique) is vodka and tonic...but in an earlier time, I drank gimlets, martinis, bourbon/water,etc.
Your friend has placed herself in grave danger. I am sure she realizes the dangers of getting herself on the front page and becoming a target. You all keep your heads down....Cheers!
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(02-09-2015, 05:10 AM)crash Wrote:
(02-09-2015, 01:19 AM)username Wrote: Are you being snarky with me? Because if you are, I just want you to know that you're never too old for me to take you out behind the shed, bend you over my knees and spank your bare ass for all it's worth.

Will you make me the same promise? Smiley_emoticons_fies

For hours. Smiley_emoticons_smile
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Ramsey and FU, HotD and Kid and now User and Crash. Fucking nauseating.

If I ever start flirting with MS or Clang please shoot me in the head.
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If you weren't such a fucking uptight bitch, we could have had a three way.
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(02-09-2015, 01:19 AM)username Wrote:
(02-08-2015, 06:44 PM)blueberryhill Wrote: User, good post...it must have taken forever to research and put that together.

Are you being snarky with me? Because if you are, I just want you to know that you're never too old for me to take you out behind the shed, bend you over my knees and spank your bare ass for all it's worth. Got it???

I just realized you were talking to me.....Snarky, me.....of course not, I was being sincere. hah
I was impressed.....honest!




If you meant that sincerely, nah. I'm quick with Google...that's all. Smiley_emoticons_slash
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