03-18-2009, 12:45 PM
Ordinary Peephole Wrote:I am not a liberal either, regardless of what anybody else might think.
We have an illegal immigration/asylum seeker problem in the UK as well, nowhere near as big as the illegal immigrant problem in the US but a problem none the less.
I think if someone cannot come to the UK through the proper channels then they should be kicked the fuck out.
I don't want to declare war on anybody though, or promote and support ideas about killing them or brutalizing them.
I don't like to see anybody hurt that doesn't deserve it and that includes illegal immigrants.
Your immigration laws are even more restrictive on Americans wanting to emigrate to the UK.
By all you've stated regarding politics you are a liberal. At least by American liberal standards you are. Maybe the UK liberal definition is different by here you are definitely far left.
You claim you want immigration to be done right but if I remember right, you've bitched that the illegals here have every right to make a better life for themselves no matter how they "cross the border" (i use 'cross the border' to refer to ANY kind of entry into the USA - air, sea, land).
Another problem is that Americans do not want a national ID card. BUT when you go to apply for a license or other kind of item requiring you show government ID, what's the difference? No one complains when asked for a 'government ID' asked for in those situations.
Illegals don't like the idea of an ID because they fear deportation. It's a mess that isn't going to be sorted out anytime soon. But I feel that granting EVERYONE here immunity and citizenship isn't going to stop a third massive migration of people over our borders. Regan gave immunity once, the numbers of illegals increased faster since because they expect the same to happen.
France has riots by disenfranchised Muslims that are pigeon-holed to live in French ghettos. the UK is bending over backward to accommodate anyone who bitches with a cry of racism. Europe is a bunch of PC pussies being run rough-shod over by bullies using racism as an excuse to turn what was into their ideal.
Countries are losing their identities and cultures because they want to make everyone happy.
I feel if I were to say emigrate to Jamaica it would be upon ME to learn their customs and speak Patois, not me force them to accommodate me and my American ideals and rights. One moves to a new land because they want to be part of that land and not go there to change it to what they left from.