09-17-2015, 09:24 AM
I'll do my best to settle myself aussie. If I get any more settled, someone might need to wake me up though. 
Seriously, of course, my reply to you was a comment. But it wasn't a judgment.
It was an observation and a statement of fact in reply to your remark:
Let's face it, how many muslim inventors do you know? They are certainly rare! They have to take responsibility for creating this hypervigiliance too.
That implies that you think the kid's religion helps to justify him being suspected, cuffed, arrested, booked, and questioned without his parents over his invention. You introduced his religion into the safety-above-all-else justification. That's your take and it doesn't surprise me that you feel that way aussie. It's odd to me how you protest perceived discrimination against some groups, but advocate for discrimination against others. That doesn't offend me in any way (though I wouldn't be surprised if Jimbone is having a bit of a laugh right now).
I know you didn't ask about Ahmed's nationality. Nobody said you did. You just, for some reason, invoked your experience and negative impressions of Muslim athletics and culture in the Middle East to support your argument that this particular kid (who happens to instead be African American) deserved to be discriminated against because of his religion. Personally, I don't even know yet whether he was discriminated against because of his religion.
The school says they would have treated any kid the same under the circumstances, regardless of the kid's religion, as a safety measure to prevent another school killing.
I'm aware of school killings in America, aussie. To the best of my knowledge, none of which has been carried out by a Muslim kid. The fact that Ahmed is Muslim has nothing to do with my support of vigilant safety policies designed to help prevent future school attacks. The next one could be plotted by yet another deranged white male of any or no faith, or a female, or a black kid, or a Sudanese-American brown kid ...
But, the kid's father -- Mohamed Elhassan Mohamed, who immigrated from Sudan and occasionally returns there to run for president -- suspects that you are right in assuming that Ahmed's religion prompted his arrest. Unlike you, however, he believes that such discrimination is wrong. In fact, Mr. Mohamed has been in the American spotlight before; he once made national headlines for debating a Florida pastor who burned a Quran. He's a politician and an activist against anti-Islamic thinking and actions.
Anyway, it'll be interesting to watch this one unfold. And, it's interesting to read your take on it, and everybody else's too.
Seriously, of course, my reply to you was a comment. But it wasn't a judgment.
It was an observation and a statement of fact in reply to your remark:
Let's face it, how many muslim inventors do you know? They are certainly rare! They have to take responsibility for creating this hypervigiliance too.
That implies that you think the kid's religion helps to justify him being suspected, cuffed, arrested, booked, and questioned without his parents over his invention. You introduced his religion into the safety-above-all-else justification. That's your take and it doesn't surprise me that you feel that way aussie. It's odd to me how you protest perceived discrimination against some groups, but advocate for discrimination against others. That doesn't offend me in any way (though I wouldn't be surprised if Jimbone is having a bit of a laugh right now).
I know you didn't ask about Ahmed's nationality. Nobody said you did. You just, for some reason, invoked your experience and negative impressions of Muslim athletics and culture in the Middle East to support your argument that this particular kid (who happens to instead be African American) deserved to be discriminated against because of his religion. Personally, I don't even know yet whether he was discriminated against because of his religion.
The school says they would have treated any kid the same under the circumstances, regardless of the kid's religion, as a safety measure to prevent another school killing.
I'm aware of school killings in America, aussie. To the best of my knowledge, none of which has been carried out by a Muslim kid. The fact that Ahmed is Muslim has nothing to do with my support of vigilant safety policies designed to help prevent future school attacks. The next one could be plotted by yet another deranged white male of any or no faith, or a female, or a black kid, or a Sudanese-American brown kid ...
But, the kid's father -- Mohamed Elhassan Mohamed, who immigrated from Sudan and occasionally returns there to run for president -- suspects that you are right in assuming that Ahmed's religion prompted his arrest. Unlike you, however, he believes that such discrimination is wrong. In fact, Mr. Mohamed has been in the American spotlight before; he once made national headlines for debating a Florida pastor who burned a Quran. He's a politician and an activist against anti-Islamic thinking and actions.
Anyway, it'll be interesting to watch this one unfold. And, it's interesting to read your take on it, and everybody else's too.