Presidential race 2016

[Donovan]

If a pregnant woman gets in an accident and the baby dies the person at fault for the accident is charged with murder. How can it be both ways?

This is incorrect. A charge of murder would only apply if the "accident" were a premeditated attack of some sort. At best an attorney would be able to go for a manslaughter charge. Besides which, we all know that fair and unfair, right and wrong have little place in a legal court of law. It's all about what the DA thinks he or she can prove, what sort of representation the defendant can afford, and of course the possibility of an election year or political motivation for the prosecutors involved. It can not only be both ways, it can be a hundred other ways besides.

But that's not really the answer you wanted, is it. Did you want to keep discussing the millions of ways the American Justice sytem contradicts and confounds itself on a daily basis? Or did you want to move on to something more stable and solid and completely in agreement with itself on matters of right and wrong? Like the Bible for example. No contradiction there.

I believe that abortion after 20 weeks is murder. I was talking to a woman a few days ago and she said her doctor gave her baby an 80% chance of being born with serious debilitating abnormalities and she should consider an abortion. She did not and the baby was born healthy except for a finger that was fused. It was fixed after birth and the child is perfectly healthy today. Hiding behind science and religion is a cowards way of explaining away the murder perfectly healthy human. In the spirit of that justification you may be perfectly fine with doing away with feeble humans in the end days of their lives.
Explain to me how a woman could go over 5 months without a period not knowing she was pregnant. In your mind it may be perfectly fine to destroy the unspoken voice that has no defense on its own but I will continue to call it murder.

That may not be the answer you wanted but I don't really care, maybe an abortion thread is warranted as Bernie, Hillary and Trump could possibly be considered the living abortions that survived the surgeons forceps by tossing the good twin towards the pear shaped light.

I have said many times that as a man with a penis I have no horse in this race. My odds of being saddled with an unwanted child are significantly smaller than someone who actually bears children. Therefore it is none of my business.

What I do know is that we as a nation routinely deny basic healthcare, food, and a quality of decent life to millions of babies and children already here. We routinely round up and deport children and babies unlucky enough to have been born south of our border, often condemning them to horrific conditions and probable abuse or death by doing so. We refuse asylum to millions of other babies and children on the slight chance that one of their uncles might turn into a religious murderous zealout and take the job of religious zealout murder away from one of our own religious murdering zealouts. And those children and babies face almost certain starvation and murder and abuse. I do know that our own country refuses to acknowledge the horrific rate of gun related death in our own babies and children because doing so might force manly men to find some other way besides guns to compensate for their small penises. And I do know that our source of inspiration, our guiding light, is a God who killed millions of babies out of habit just to make a point that he was slightly irritated at ONE GUY.

So let's just go ahead and admit the "precious baby lives" argument is pure horseshit, okay?