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ANOTHER SCHOOL/PUBLIC SHOOTING
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RE: ANOTHER SCHOOL/PUBLIC SHOOTING

He didn't want to shoot a kid is my bet. Who would? Then he hesitated. When its all figured out we will know.






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05-21-2018 12:35 PM
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I doubt that Barnes had reservations about shooting a shotgun-wielding teen who was shooting at him, other teens, and teachers. Seems more likely to me that the teen had the opportunity to incapacitate Barnes before Barnes could incapacitate him.

Barnes had 23 years of police experience and was trained in active shooter situations, which includes those perpetrated by teens.

But yeah, the picture will be clearer when a timeline of events is available.

One thing we know from LE is that several responding officers exchanged gunfire with the teen for 15 to 25 minutes before he surrendered. The teen shooter was heavily armed and prepared.

The explosives the teen planted around campus were made from pressure cookers, nails, and alarm clocks. That’s another thing LE has confirmed. They were not detonatable. Reminds me of the Columbine situation.





05-21-2018 01:40 PM
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(05-21-2018 12:35 PM)Maggot Wrote:  He didn't want to shoot a kid is my bet. Who would? Then he hesitated. When its all figured out we will know.

Are you implying tthat a better trained resource officer with more of Rambo-like demeanor would’ve taken this guy out and nobody would’ve been killed and we’d all be happy?

Wow! I hope that’s not what you’re insinuating.

To think, our children’s lives depend on a resource officer to come to the rescue and save their lives, when they clearly are at a disadvantage when they come on the scene.

Remember everybody, it’s not the easy accessibility to guns thst’s killing our kids and other innocent Americans, it’s poorly trained resource officers.





05-21-2018 01:50 PM
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...and too many doors! Sarcastic






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In terms of the timeline........LE confirmed today that they arrived on the scene of the Santa Fe HS shooting 4 minutes after the shooting began, and responding officers exchanged fire with the shooter for 25 minutes before the shooter surrendered.

The primary weapon was a sawed-off shotgun. If the shotgun was sawed off by the shooter’s father, that could be a crime.

LE cannot confirm if all the victims were shot by the teen suspect or whether some were instead shot during crossfire between the teen and police. LE is waiting for autopsy results and reviewing school surveillance cams in order to answer that question.





05-21-2018 03:29 PM
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(05-21-2018 03:29 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:  LE cannot confirm if all the victims were shot by the teen suspect or whether some were instead shot during crossfire between the teen and police.


That's awful. Goddamn.






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(05-21-2018 02:50 PM)Duchess Wrote:  

...and too many doors! Sarcastic

....and Ritalin, according to new NRA President Oliver North.





05-21-2018 07:14 PM
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(05-21-2018 07:14 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:  ....and Ritalin, according to new NRA President Oliver North.


I think that those who accept NRA money are going to start running into issues at the polls. People are understanding that the only way to get their voices heard is to vote out those associated with the NRA.






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05-22-2018 04:54 AM
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People (monsters) who shoot other people, should be shot! The End.






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05-22-2018 06:35 AM
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Yesterday, LE confirmed that there were two resource officers at Santa Fe High School.

It hasn't been directly stated that the wounded resource officer, Barnes, was armed. But, the other resource officer (not yet publicly identified) who approached the shooter with Barnes fired at least one shot at the shooter.

LE says that after Barnes was shot the other resource officer contained the shooter to one room so the hundreds of responding officers who arrived on the scene could evacuate the students on other parts of the campus.

The Galveston sheriff said the officers tried to negotiate with the shooter verbally for much of the 25 minutes they engaged with him and the officers kept their fire to a minimum while the teen kept shooting at them. The shooter was in a classroom and the officers were in the hallway.

The sheriff expanded upon (or changed?) the description of the explosive devices the shooter planted. He said the devices found were so-called cricket bombs, made by filling spent carbon dioxide cartridges with gunpowder and adding a fuse.

Unsurprisingly, it was also confirmed that the Santa Fe HS shooter studied other mass murderers. The pipe bombs, the trench coat, and the detailed journals are straight out of the Columbine playbook.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/som...re-n876171
https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archi...on/560753/





05-22-2018 11:18 AM
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(05-21-2018 01:50 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote:  
(05-21-2018 12:35 PM)Maggot Wrote:  He didn't want to shoot a kid is my bet. Who would? Then he hesitated. When its all figured out we will know.

Are you implying tthat a better trained resource officer with more of Rambo-like demeanor would’ve taken this guy out and nobody would’ve been killed and we’d all be happy?

Wow! I hope that’s not what you’re insinuating.

To think, our children’s lives depend on a resource officer to come to the rescue and save their lives, when they clearly are at a disadvantage when they come on the scene.

Remember everybody, it’s not the easy accessibility to guns thst’s killing our kids and other innocent Americans, it’s poorly trained resource officers.

I would have a tough time shooting a kid, even if he had a gun, it just goes against most peoples grain. he may have hesitated or he was taken by surprise. I don't know.
I believe the best way to prevent these things is better security for schools it is the one thing that will help prevent future attacks.
I also believe that if adults have not secured their guns and some crazy kid takes them to kill they need to be held accountable also.
The reason this crazy crap happens is not the gun itself but the society the kids grow up in. It really is a reflection on everyone. Should gun laws be enforced better? Of coarse they should. But some genuine thought should go into why they do it.
I also believe that looking at social media and looking for signs of craziness is not one of the best ways to keep things in check. If every single sign of anti social behavior was checked on it would be a really overwhelming thing to put into practice.
Better security is the best way as far as I can see right now.






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05-22-2018 12:26 PM
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(05-21-2018 01:50 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote:  
(05-21-2018 12:35 PM)Maggot Wrote:  He didn't want to shoot a kid is my bet. Who would? Then he hesitated. When its all figured out we will know.

Are you implying tthat a better trained resource officer with more of Rambo-like demeanor would’ve taken this guy out and nobody would’ve been killed and we’d all be happy?

Wow! I hope that’s not what you’re insinuating.

To think, our children’s lives depend on a resource officer to come to the rescue and save their lives, when they clearly are at a disadvantage when they come on the scene.

Remember everybody, it’s not the easy accessibility to guns thst’s killing our kids and other innocent Americans, it’s poorly trained resource officers.
All of the weapons this kid possessed were illegal for him to possess so aren't there already laws in place to prevent this from happening?





05-22-2018 12:30 PM
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(05-22-2018 12:26 PM)Maggot Wrote:  I would have a tough time shooting a kid, even if he had a gun, it just goes against most peoples grain. he may have hesitated or he was taken by surprise. I don't know.
I believe the best way to prevent these things is better security for schools it is the one thing that will help prevent future attacks.

Interesting.

You've made a number of posts strongly defending and justifying officers shooting certain unarmed kids or kids with toy guns when those kids weren't shooting anybody...you know, 'like anybody would'.

NOW you're claiming that an armed officer would be justified in hesitating to shoot this teen, a big kid who was actively slaughtering people at the time....because you know, 'it just goes against most peoples grains'.

I think you're way off base with your assertion that it goes against most people's grains. I'd definitely shoot the teen without hesitation if I had the chance to save a bunch of lives, including my own, in that situation. And, I'm not even trained to do so like officers are.





05-22-2018 12:43 PM
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Oh cut it out, you argumentative dope. 86 If I said the sky was blue you might say its not the right shade so I would be wrong.






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