07-25-2014, 11:28 PM
First, I'll just comment that PEDs are considered cheating, and therefor pretty much an automatic 4 game, 25% of the season, suspension. If you're caught cheating to help you team, you get suspended to hurt your team. Off the field conduct is more of a gray area. There's more leeway in terms of punishment. In Goodell's defense, he met with both Ray Rice and Janay to discuss the incident.
As far as I know, the public isn't aware of the details. All we saw is the aftermath. Ray Rice drags his fiancee out of an elevator. If reports had come out that she was passed out drunk... there would have been no media circus about it. From my standpoint, I know that this girl has tied her ship to this football player, and doesn't want him losing his paycheck. So if you're meeting with his boss, I'd think she and Ray would spin whatever story possible regardless of the truth to Goodell. If they said she'd been drinking and passed out, if they said they had a sex accident, if she said she slipped and knocked herself out... up to an including that she attacked him, and he was defending himself. No matter the moral uproar, if she sat there and told Goodell that it was her fault... a 2 game suspension is still a warning. It says "don't fuck around with domestic violence," without really painting Rice as a criminal. So that's how I feel from Goodell's perspective.
From an objective standpoint, I want to know the details. I want to know if the girl attacked him or if he just knocked her out while they were arguing. If it's the later, he's a PoS and shoulda been arrested and she shoulda pressed charges. If it's the former... I don't condone hitting a woman ever, but there is a huge bias that men are the bad guy in every domestic dispute. Another poster in another thread in another forum commenting on this case referenced Men Don't Tell... a movie about a man who is violently abused by his wife and gets arrested for attempted murder. Apparently it's based on a true story... so who knows, but at what point does self defense turn into assault? Women should never hit men either.
As far as I know, the public isn't aware of the details. All we saw is the aftermath. Ray Rice drags his fiancee out of an elevator. If reports had come out that she was passed out drunk... there would have been no media circus about it. From my standpoint, I know that this girl has tied her ship to this football player, and doesn't want him losing his paycheck. So if you're meeting with his boss, I'd think she and Ray would spin whatever story possible regardless of the truth to Goodell. If they said she'd been drinking and passed out, if they said they had a sex accident, if she said she slipped and knocked herself out... up to an including that she attacked him, and he was defending himself. No matter the moral uproar, if she sat there and told Goodell that it was her fault... a 2 game suspension is still a warning. It says "don't fuck around with domestic violence," without really painting Rice as a criminal. So that's how I feel from Goodell's perspective.
From an objective standpoint, I want to know the details. I want to know if the girl attacked him or if he just knocked her out while they were arguing. If it's the later, he's a PoS and shoulda been arrested and she shoulda pressed charges. If it's the former... I don't condone hitting a woman ever, but there is a huge bias that men are the bad guy in every domestic dispute. Another poster in another thread in another forum commenting on this case referenced Men Don't Tell... a movie about a man who is violently abused by his wife and gets arrested for attempted murder. Apparently it's based on a true story... so who knows, but at what point does self defense turn into assault? Women should never hit men either.