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RETURN TO SENDER/ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION
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RE: RETURN TO SENDER/ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION

I'm not sure this deserves to be in the immigration thread so I might toss it into a mobster thread or something. What say yea?






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06-07-2018 09:16 PM
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(06-07-2018 09:16 PM)Maggot Wrote:  I'm not sure this deserves to be in the immigration thread so I might toss it into a mobster thread or something. What say yea?

Either way is cool by me Mags.

A lot of the old Italian mob guys sneaked into the country illegally, or they had temporary authorization, sponsored by a U.S.-based relative, which expired and they became undocumented/illegal.

Some of them, like Papa Joe, went back to Italy for a spell after they'd made money off of crimes in the U.S. (bootlegging, gangs, prostitution, extortion, racketeering...) and then re-entered the U.S. legally so they could later apply for citizenship.

So, there is a tie-in to this thread if you want to keep the discussion going here.





06-07-2018 10:06 PM
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HotD, I am interested in reading your opinion about what's going on with the children being removed from the parents. There has been some very disturbing things being reported recently.

As an aside, there are "dear leader" trump murals in at least one of the kid's detention camp. That's so fucking bizarre. I've only seen one detention camp so far so that's the only one I can comment on.






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"detention camps" in America are probably better than the ghoulish situations they were in previously but worse than an average American household.






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06-14-2018 12:46 PM
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I'm horrified by the children being taken from their parents. It makes me cry. There are so many stories being reported on. A mother breastfeeding has her baby taken, other mothers are told their children are taken to be bathed only to realize hours later they aren't coming back. Authorities who question why parents are fighting back is probably the most ridiculous one. If someone tried to forcibly take my horses or other animals I would fight back, I can't imagine what it wold be like to have a child forcibly taken.






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06-14-2018 12:57 PM
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I wonder how often that happens, is it 10 every 100 or something?






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06-14-2018 01:05 PM
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(06-14-2018 12:28 PM)Duchess Wrote:  

HotD, I am interested in reading your opinion about what's going on with the children being removed from the parents. There has been some very disturbing things being reported recently.

As an aside, there are "dear leader" trump murals in at least one of the kid's detention camp. That's so fucking bizarre. I've only seen one detention camp so far so that's the only one I can comment on.

I don't think it's right nor necessary.

The previous process of either deporting families together or granting them an immigration hearing together was a better and more humane process, in my opinion.

I did see an expose on the largest detention center where 1,500 10 to 17 year old boys are being detained in an old Walmart building. The children who crossed the border with a parent are now being detained with children/teens who crossed the border alone.

I was at least glad to see that there was recreation, a cafeteria, and it was staffed with teachers and counselors; 1 such adult per 8 children.

But, the boys only get 2 hours of sunlight per day, according to the report. And, I don't know what's happening with girls separated from their parents, nor with the younger children, nor with kids at other detention centers across the country. Seems like that's what some reporters and congresspersons are trying to uncover.

Anyway, the purpose of the new Trump/Sessions policy of separating children from parents is reportedly to deter migrants from coming to the U.S. to seek asylum or for other reasons. Considering the very large recent spike in border crossings, it's not working.

As for the very large Trump mural, it sounds very authoritarian-like and not surprising to me.





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Is there a picture of the mural?






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06-14-2018 01:25 PM
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(06-14-2018 01:25 PM)Maggot Wrote:  Is there a picture of the mural?

I’d love to see it.

Hope it’s done in good taste.





06-14-2018 01:38 PM
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(06-14-2018 01:38 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote:  
(06-14-2018 01:25 PM)Maggot Wrote:  Is there a picture of the mural?

I’d love to see it.

Hope it’s done in good taste.

This is what greets those who enter the Casa Padre detention center in Brownsville, Texas.
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There are reportedly other presidential murals with more motivational quotes as well.

http://www.newsweek.com/child-immigratio...ail-977179





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Whats wrong with that? I'm sure you will tell me how racist and ugly and inappropriate it is. maybe it should have a picture of Castro or maybe a picture of the homeless in America. C'mon Taco give it to me> Starwars






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06-14-2018 02:34 PM
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You're sure I'll do that even though I rarely, if ever, take the "racist!" or "ugly!" route? That makes no sense Maggot -- it's defensive and a losing bet.

Anyway, to answer your question, I personally find having a large mural (along with a quote referring to battles and war) — a mural of the person responsible for removing some of the children from their parents and putting them in detention — at the forefront of the children's detention center to be authoritarian-like.

That's my opinion and it doesn't offend or surprise me that you see it differently, Nacho. Smiley_emoticons_wink





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It is authoritarian like, you're not alone in that thought, I share it and so do millions of other people. Furthermore, it is un-American to take children from their parents. This is the kind of shit that is done in other countries, countries without democracy. Just imagine your kids being forcibly removed from your arms. I want my country to be better than that. The daily deluge of bullshit surrounding this government is not normal.






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(06-14-2018 01:38 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote:  
(06-14-2018 01:25 PM)Maggot Wrote:  Is there a picture of the mural?

I’d love to see it.

Hope it’s done in good taste.

This is what greets those who enter the Casa Padre detention center in Brownsville, Texas.
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