11-22-2014, 11:16 AM
I know you don't understand it and a lot of others don't understand it, Duchess. I understand it, but not because it's a situation that I believe I could get myself into.
I understand it because I understand that there are all kinds of people in this world; some are quite willingly ignorant or deliberately stupid, especially younger people. Some are emotionally weak, gullible or needy. Some are greedy. Some don't have as much sense as a dog. Those things cause people to stay in compromising situations sometimes, for that they are personally responsible. However, I don't think that means it's okay for a person they trust to drug them in order to have non-consensual sex with them. He doesn't have the right to do that even if the woman is his wife, or a professional prostitute, or someone he sometimes has consensual sex with. For that, he is personally responsible. I mean, picture that going down in your mind. It is very fucked up bullshit -- getting off on completely violating another human being while they're incapacitated without their consent.
Cosby joked about drugging women's drinks back in 69, before he honed the family man image. That's a strange thing for a comedian to joke about, IMO, then or now. My dad was a Cosby fan. I never found that bit (posted below) funny, personally, though a couple of his stand-up bits crack me up to this day. I can reconcile that he's smart, funny, talented, influential AND quite possibly a fucked-up power-trippin' serial date rapist too. I can absolutely believe it, even though I wish it weren't true.
Anyway, there are a lot of cases where people in a position of trust have groomed and raped men and women who were under their mentoring for years. Sexual predators of that sort are nothing new, though the people they've preyed upon are the least likely to report it, for reasons already addressed. I just keep repeating the same type of information in response to the same types of comments and questions, but you can research and find analysis of such predators and their victims' psychologies, if you're interested in understanding it better.
Bill Cosby isn't unique as a predator, if the accusations are true -- he's just more well-known and seemingly universally liked (which would be one of the reasons he was able to pull it off and get away with it for so long).
I understand it because I understand that there are all kinds of people in this world; some are quite willingly ignorant or deliberately stupid, especially younger people. Some are emotionally weak, gullible or needy. Some are greedy. Some don't have as much sense as a dog. Those things cause people to stay in compromising situations sometimes, for that they are personally responsible. However, I don't think that means it's okay for a person they trust to drug them in order to have non-consensual sex with them. He doesn't have the right to do that even if the woman is his wife, or a professional prostitute, or someone he sometimes has consensual sex with. For that, he is personally responsible. I mean, picture that going down in your mind. It is very fucked up bullshit -- getting off on completely violating another human being while they're incapacitated without their consent.
Cosby joked about drugging women's drinks back in 69, before he honed the family man image. That's a strange thing for a comedian to joke about, IMO, then or now. My dad was a Cosby fan. I never found that bit (posted below) funny, personally, though a couple of his stand-up bits crack me up to this day. I can reconcile that he's smart, funny, talented, influential AND quite possibly a fucked-up power-trippin' serial date rapist too. I can absolutely believe it, even though I wish it weren't true.
Anyway, there are a lot of cases where people in a position of trust have groomed and raped men and women who were under their mentoring for years. Sexual predators of that sort are nothing new, though the people they've preyed upon are the least likely to report it, for reasons already addressed. I just keep repeating the same type of information in response to the same types of comments and questions, but you can research and find analysis of such predators and their victims' psychologies, if you're interested in understanding it better.
Bill Cosby isn't unique as a predator, if the accusations are true -- he's just more well-known and seemingly universally liked (which would be one of the reasons he was able to pull it off and get away with it for so long).