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OBAMA'S LEGACY
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(06-28-2015, 09:29 PM)Jimbone Wrote: Interesting that no one mentioned the disastrous foreign policy Obama has presided over. That's going to be a major part of his legacy, and there isn't much to like.

Just off the top of my head, in terms of foreign policy...

-I like that relations are being rebuilt with Cuba after half a century; I think it's long overdue.

-I like that Obama does not support Israeli PM Netanyahu's policies even when they're wrong (IMO); specifically the expansion of Israeli settlements in the West Bank. That big "fuck you all" expansion is overwhelmingly viewed as a violation of international law outside of Israel (and by many inside of Israel as well).

-I like that a nuclear deal with tight controls is being pursued with Iran; I think it's a better option for the U.S., Israel and the world than the U.S. going to war with Iran on behalf of Israel. Plus, I think Iran's Shiite regime is key to pushing back ISIS expansion and that better relations between the U.S. and Iran are in both country's best interests.

-I like that Syria was boxed into destroying its chemical weapons under Obama's administration. I also like that the U.S. did not blindly arm the "rebels" early on; many of whom were not fighting Assad for Syrian liberation but instead were Islamic Fundamentalists exploiting the civil war and attempting to create a caliphate in the secular country. And, I like that the U.S. is not storming into the Middle East and instead has formed alliances with Middle Eastern countries and NATO to fight ISIS in Iraq and Syria. I hate what's happening in Syria, but I don't know how it should best be addressed or if the U.S. could/should do anything better.

-I like that the U.S. has supported/partnered with the Kurds in Iraq and Syria to push back ISIS.

-I like that the U.S. is working towards reciprocal economic gains with China.

The Bergdahl exchange, the absence of U.S. top leadership at the post-Hebdo unity march in France, the U.S. surveillance of European leaders' private communications... are foreign policy/relations actions which I dislike or don't support based on my current understanding.
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OBAMA'S LEGACY - by HairOfTheDog - 03-09-2015, 10:43 AM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Blindgreed1 - 03-09-2015, 11:30 AM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by HairOfTheDog - 03-09-2015, 12:22 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Blindgreed1 - 03-09-2015, 12:34 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Maggot - 03-09-2015, 12:16 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by HairOfTheDog - 03-09-2015, 12:52 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Blindgreed1 - 03-09-2015, 01:05 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by HairOfTheDog - 03-09-2015, 01:18 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Blindgreed1 - 03-09-2015, 01:15 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by HairOfTheDog - 03-09-2015, 01:20 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Blindgreed1 - 03-09-2015, 01:24 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by HairOfTheDog - 03-09-2015, 01:31 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Duchess - 03-09-2015, 01:37 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Blindgreed1 - 03-09-2015, 01:54 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Maggot - 03-09-2015, 01:46 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Maggot - 03-09-2015, 02:08 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by HairOfTheDog - 03-09-2015, 02:14 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Blindgreed1 - 03-09-2015, 03:13 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by HairOfTheDog - 03-09-2015, 03:47 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Blindgreed1 - 03-09-2015, 04:01 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by HairOfTheDog - 06-28-2015, 02:16 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Maggot - 06-28-2015, 02:29 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by blueberryhill - 06-28-2015, 05:22 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by HairOfTheDog - 06-28-2015, 05:46 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by SIXFOOTERsez - 06-28-2015, 06:45 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by HairOfTheDog - 06-28-2015, 08:19 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by blueberryhill - 06-28-2015, 09:18 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Jimbone - 06-28-2015, 09:29 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by HairOfTheDog - 06-29-2015, 11:00 AM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by sally - 06-28-2015, 09:40 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Duchess - 06-29-2015, 11:07 AM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Carsman - 06-29-2015, 01:11 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Clang McFly - 06-29-2015, 02:00 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Jimbone - 06-29-2015, 03:35 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by HairOfTheDog - 06-29-2015, 03:59 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by HairOfTheDog - 05-27-2016, 02:16 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Duchess - 05-27-2016, 02:17 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by F.U. - 05-27-2016, 03:59 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Maggot - 05-27-2016, 04:01 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Duchess - 05-27-2016, 04:26 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Midwest Spy - 05-27-2016, 04:28 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Donovan - 05-27-2016, 06:22 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Duchess - 05-27-2016, 06:31 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by HairOfTheDog - 09-13-2016, 02:07 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Blindgreed1 - 09-13-2016, 05:33 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Duchess - 09-13-2016, 03:55 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by HairOfTheDog - 09-13-2016, 04:53 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Maggot - 09-13-2016, 10:11 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Duchess - 09-14-2016, 05:08 AM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Carsman - 09-14-2016, 09:07 AM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Blindgreed1 - 09-14-2016, 09:26 AM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by HairOfTheDog - 09-14-2016, 10:26 AM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Carsman - 09-14-2016, 11:20 AM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Duchess - 09-14-2016, 01:09 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Duchess - 09-14-2016, 01:08 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Clang McFly - 09-15-2016, 10:14 AM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Maggot - 09-15-2016, 01:31 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Donovan - 09-16-2016, 09:33 AM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by BigMark - 09-16-2016, 10:50 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Donovan - 09-17-2016, 03:40 AM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Donovan - 09-17-2016, 03:41 AM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by BigMark - 09-17-2016, 10:21 AM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Donovan - 09-17-2016, 12:25 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by HairOfTheDog - 09-28-2016, 11:20 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Duchess - 09-30-2016, 02:49 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by HairOfTheDog - 09-30-2016, 03:10 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by BigMark - 09-30-2016, 07:34 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by HairOfTheDog - 01-11-2017, 03:27 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Duchess - 01-11-2017, 03:33 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by ramseycat - 01-11-2017, 07:43 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Clang McFly - 01-12-2017, 12:18 AM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by F.U. - 01-11-2017, 04:40 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by blueberryhill - 01-11-2017, 07:38 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by SIXFOOTERsez - 01-12-2017, 12:41 AM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Duchess - 01-12-2017, 05:59 AM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Carsman - 01-12-2017, 07:05 AM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Clang McFly - 01-12-2017, 08:07 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Carsman - 01-12-2017, 08:28 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by HairOfTheDog - 01-12-2017, 10:56 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Duchess - 01-13-2017, 06:04 AM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Maggot - 01-13-2017, 09:39 AM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Duchess - 01-13-2017, 10:59 AM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Clang McFly - 01-13-2017, 09:01 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Maggot - 01-13-2017, 09:39 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Clang McFly - 01-16-2017, 12:59 AM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Maggot - 01-13-2017, 11:04 AM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Duchess - 01-13-2017, 12:39 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Maggot - 01-13-2017, 12:44 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Maggot - 01-13-2017, 10:05 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by blueberryhill - 01-13-2017, 11:27 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Duchess - 01-20-2017, 07:01 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Maggot - 01-20-2017, 08:03 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Carsman - 01-20-2017, 08:37 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Maggot - 01-20-2017, 09:57 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by HairOfTheDog - 01-20-2017, 09:04 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Carsman - 01-21-2017, 01:25 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by HairOfTheDog - 01-28-2017, 10:32 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Clang McFly - 01-29-2017, 11:25 AM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by HairOfTheDog - 03-01-2017, 02:47 PM
RE: OBAMA'S LEGACY - by Duchess - 03-01-2017, 02:51 PM