11-07-2019, 03:32 PM
Sorry Mags. I just that noticed that you added some red-font comments to my original post. Your comments are inaccurate.
The transcripts of testimony by those I listed (with the exception of Mulvaney) does indeed show that they understood that Trump and Giuliani were tying the Ukraine aid to their push for a publicly-announced Ukranian investigation into Biden.
As for Mulvaney, he acknowledged at a conference (which has been transcribed) that the release of Ukraine aid was tied to a request to investigate the handling of a Democratic National Committee server hacked in the 2016 election.
The commitments to Ukraine had already been approved by Congress in the federal budget for 2019 months earlier. They were meant to bolster Ukraine's defense against the Russian aggression which has been ongoing since 2014.
The Trump administration initially told Congress it was releasing the aid to Ukraine in February. It repeated that assertion to Congress again in May. However, it was still not released when Trump participated in the phone call with Zlensky on July 5th and Trump reportedly asked for the Biden investigation favor in exchange.
The aid wasn't released until September. I'm sure the explanation for that delay is part of the ongoing investigation. I'm interested in hearing from those directly involved.
I think there's quite an obvious benefit to Trump to have scandalous Biden headlines in the news during the 2020 presidential campaign, but I guess you don't see how that would be a political and personal advantage to Trump and that's fine.
I don't know what you're referring to in your 'that never happened' comment. However, my comment was accurate. The transcript for E.U. Ambassador Gordon Sondland's testimony was released Tuesday. In it, he told House Reps that Rudy Giuliani pushed the Ukranian President to publicly say he was investigating Hunter Biden's company in order to get the White House visit.
The transcripts of testimony by those I listed (with the exception of Mulvaney) does indeed show that they understood that Trump and Giuliani were tying the Ukraine aid to their push for a publicly-announced Ukranian investigation into Biden.
As for Mulvaney, he acknowledged at a conference (which has been transcribed) that the release of Ukraine aid was tied to a request to investigate the handling of a Democratic National Committee server hacked in the 2016 election.
The commitments to Ukraine had already been approved by Congress in the federal budget for 2019 months earlier. They were meant to bolster Ukraine's defense against the Russian aggression which has been ongoing since 2014.
The Trump administration initially told Congress it was releasing the aid to Ukraine in February. It repeated that assertion to Congress again in May. However, it was still not released when Trump participated in the phone call with Zlensky on July 5th and Trump reportedly asked for the Biden investigation favor in exchange.
The aid wasn't released until September. I'm sure the explanation for that delay is part of the ongoing investigation. I'm interested in hearing from those directly involved.
I think there's quite an obvious benefit to Trump to have scandalous Biden headlines in the news during the 2020 presidential campaign, but I guess you don't see how that would be a political and personal advantage to Trump and that's fine.
I don't know what you're referring to in your 'that never happened' comment. However, my comment was accurate. The transcript for E.U. Ambassador Gordon Sondland's testimony was released Tuesday. In it, he told House Reps that Rudy Giuliani pushed the Ukranian President to publicly say he was investigating Hunter Biden's company in order to get the White House visit.