12-19-2018, 10:06 AM
(12-19-2018, 06:40 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: It defines credulity to suggest that Trump passionately claimed he'd shut down the government if he didn't get the $5 billion because he really wanted the $1.6 billion that he'd already been offered, in my opinion.
I don't believe that Trump's inability to get the wall funding he's demanded from Mexico or from Republican congresspersons or from Democratic congresspersons is really a super successful reverse-psychology negotiating victory for Trump which only the truly Trump-astute recognize. But, I'm not surprised that some people do.
I do believe that the minority of American citizens who say they voted for Trump because they want a great big wall all along the U.S. border -- especially those American citizens who screamed "build that wall!" and "Mexico will pay for it!" at rallies across the country -- were sincere and believed that Trump was making promises to them in good faith.
(12-19-2018, 03:50 AM)Fry Guy Wrote: This of course is a huge surprise to simply everyone because after two years noone is aware with every position Trump holds with everything, he takes a position that is miles from the position he wants and then opens himself to negotiation to get to the position he actually wants