08-21-2019, 08:40 PM
(08-21-2019, 02:08 PM)Duchess Wrote: So everything he has done the past few years, kids in cages, separating families, the tens of thousands of lies, the loss of our standing in the world, covering for the murdering prince, there's really just too many to list, and I'm the evil one? Okay, Mark, got it.
Yes Duchess.
What the fuck HAS he ACTUALLY done in the last few years?
Locking children in cages? Do you mean caged off detention facilities? You better fucking not. Only an absolute idiot would not appreciate that when a person in the company of a minor commits a crime that they "get away with it" and are not detained. YOU do not believe that. So IF they are being detained for a crime the child is too young to be allowed to wander away and must be housed, away from the parent. You CANNOT put the child in with the Parent with the child and no it does not happen in other situations and no this is not now some special exception and YES this is the law.
Many retards throughout America DO actually equate ICE upholding the laws that Congress has voted for as doing something illegal. Most reasonable thinking Americans understand that there are laws and regulations such a the Flores Agreement that the Congress MUST reverse or otherwise change in order for Government officials to do otherwise. Nope, these losers actually support the Congress who made these rules for the ICE agents to follow and then blame not the Illegal immigrants breaking the law, nor the Congress for making laws around their detention BUT blame the ICE agents and the President. It is not just dishonest but pants on head retarded.
So being that this is NOTHING to do with the President, why are you mentioning him? Fucking stupid isn't it Duchess?
Tens of thousands of lies? Bullshit. That is a lie from you right there.
"B...b....b....but liberal Bias media has compiled a list of things he has said that they classify as lies!"
Who gives a shit? If anyone cared as much about it as much as these lack of life losers who compiled these lists, a quick run through 100 will show MOST of these are quickly challenged as jokes, sarcasms, talking generally not specifically or specifically not generally, taken out of context of a passage of what was said, hyperbole, subjective opinion not attempt at objective truth, being imprecise which his words whilst conveying something easily understood and the like.
Yes, they will call all of that lying but it simply is not lying when things said (divorced from all context) do not match what a person is pretending or believing their position to be.
I tried this one time on an article from the Washington Post. It listed something like 100 "lies" from the President and in contrast said Hillary only lied times during the same period. I went through each of them. It took ages. that 100 lies whittled down to 6. Of that 6 it looked like a lot of them were lazy thinking or poor preparation or the like.
The other 94, much of what I wrote above. So yes they make their little gotcha lists but they are mostly bullshit. Can't trust them.
America's standing in the world? Bahahahahahahahahahahahaha
You think the world respected Barrack Obama?
What did the Philippines' President call him? "A son of a whore" Is that respectful?
Putin thought Obama was weak.
Xi disrespected him on the visit and did not roll out the red carpet for him, he had to use his own stairs from Air Force One. It was the definition of a snub.
The Egyptians chose to withhold talking to Obama about managing ISIS and when both Hillary and Trump were their respective party's candidates, they spoke to Trump not Clinton about their concerns and seeking help.
Israel did not like Obama but love Trump.
Likewise many in the Eastern European bloc.
Jesus Duchess.
Covering for the murder of Jamal? HOW?
No I do not give a damn about whether or not he did not place sanction or explicitly state that the Saudi Prince knew about this or whatever. THAT is not "covering for him" and it would be a lie to equate the two and you seem to hate lies......right?
Personally I think he handled things about as well as he could, given the circumstances.
What was he supposed to do given ALL context.
1. Middle East full of ISIS
2. Migrants flooding into Europe from Africa and Middle East
3. Iran expanding Nuclear Program and being problematic
4. Saudi Arabia recently overthrew a rulership with a slightly less oppressive and tyrannical rulership
5. Turkey starting to throw its weight around some
6. Iran using its friends in Syria to further illegal activities and with Russia's backing
7. America involved in many wars and unrest and occupation in many middle Eastern countries
8. Just agreed to major contracts with Saudi Arabia to America's benefit worth billions
Then Jamal a non-citizen to America is murdered by associates of the Prince and whilst the Prince denies his involvement and promises to punish the perpetrators, it is believed he was likely the one giving the orders.
If you state "Make sanctions and round on the Prince and demand he admit he lied", you are simply an idiot, and have NOT paid any attention to the above and are not able to think what the knock on effects would be OR you are so very desperate for Trump to be wrong that you would prefer America and the World are fucked over.
Because of difficult decisions like this look at the list of 8 points above.
1. ISIS - handled by Trump
2. Migrants flooding into Europe - First needs foreign interventionalism reduced and as such Trump is exploring this (Could have helped if Hillary did not demand Qaddafi get killed and thus the cork of Africa undone LIKE HE WARNED.)
3. Iran - no more pallets of cash and by building key alliances like Egypt, Israel and Saudi Arabia, he can direct efforts away from places like Afghanistan and focus more attention to Iran
4. Saudi Arabia - be a supportive mentoring friend of the young Prince
5. Showing stability and not being reactive and such will clam that shit down.
6. Syria - Took care of Syria, Russia or not.
7. America too military involved - Took care of ISIS and Syria and now will focus on Iran and turn screws.
8. Saudia Arabia contracts - followed through and the relationship will be strong and America more economically better for it
What the fuck HAS he ACTUALLY done in the last few years? Why on Earth would ANY of that bullshit you wrote be his fault? Too many to list and yet the things you DID list are grade A bullshit!