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RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE IN 2016 US ELECTION & SPIN-OFF INVESTIGATIONS
(04-19-2019, 08:52 AM)Duchess Wrote:
(04-19-2019, 08:15 AM)Maggot Wrote: he said a lot of things but never acted on any of it.

That's not true, Maggot. Far from it.

It kind of is though isn't it Duchess. I know you have not received talking points yet on this and so you uncritically dismiss it without reference to the contrary.



(04-19-2019, 08:54 AM)Duchess Wrote:
(04-19-2019, 08:15 AM)Maggot Wrote: I would like to see why a fake story that was planted in Yahoo was used as evidence to allow Trump to be spyed on

That's not true either! What the actual fuck, Maggot.

Yes what the actual fuck are you trying to disclaim Duchess.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-s-intel-off...46002.html

This was planted by Fusion GPS as a result of scandalous unverified propaganda dressed as an intel dossier given to Fusion GPS by a unashamedly anti-Trump British intelligence officer from the Russian government and on the behest of Hillary and the DNC.

This article and the Buzzfeed article were suggested as key collaboration as to the veracity of the claims of the Dossier in which a FISA application was made.

How after all this time do you not know THIS much and what in Hell would you so vehemently dispute it if you are so oblivious?

(04-19-2019, 10:28 AM)Duchess Wrote:
(04-19-2019, 10:01 AM)Maggot Wrote:
(04-19-2019, 08:54 AM)Duchess Wrote:
(04-19-2019, 08:15 AM)Maggot Wrote: I would like to see why a fake story that was planted in Yahoo was used as evidence to allow Trump to be spyed on

That's not true either! What the actual fuck, Maggot.

yes it is ...........the Trump prostitute piss story was a fake story that was put there and was used as evidence to the FISA court.

..but what you said was that a fake story was planted and that was used as evidence to allow trump to be spied on. That's not how FISA warrants are issued. There has to be a tremendous amount of evidence put forth in order for FISA warrants to be granted. This is no willy nilly procedure that is followed because of a whim or a hope that something could be found. It's serious business.

No fucking shit! This is why it is being followed up with the the inspector general and the only reason it has not been done sooner is that ANY attempts for Trump to have done to litigate this beforehand would have been seized upon as interference and obstruction of justice. This has tied his hands for over two years. No longer though.

Shit is about to hit the fan in a pretty big way. Pappy and I have been saying this for some time and you have been saying "wait til the Mueller report comes out". I say wait for the prosecutions as a result directly and indirectly of the IG report. By the time Huber and Horowitz are through. Then questions like:

"Given that the Dossier and both articles cited as evidence for the FISA warrant, were unverified and uncollaborated as had been signed and sworn as being both collaborate and verified, why ought the people involved in bringing this to the FISA NOT be prosecuted under the law for misleading a FISA court?"

"Mr Rosenstein as the Dossier was both uncollaborated and unverified, why did you set up the Special COunsel against the Trump campaign?"

"Mr Comey, The Chief Counsel expressly committed to try Hillary Clinton for crimes arising out of her use of classified emails on a private server and her poor security in which numerous breaches were made and her deletion of requested emails, why did you state that no prosecutor would try her and why did you create "intent to commit a crime" as that is not an element of the law, to exonerate her?"

"Hillary Clinton, why did you collude with the Russian and Ukranian government to influence the election in your favour by using the law firm of Perkin Coie to hire Fusion GPS to have Christopher Steele create a Russian sourced Propaganda piece?"

But the time the smoke clears and the Democrats and Intel Agents that are able to make any kind of immunity deal to through their colleagues under the bus have done so, there will be plenty of big names going down.

This is precisely BECAUSE these intelligence agencies and Democrats were acting outside of the law, policy, and process. It was a "higher calling". They could not have the President in office,. It did not matter that he was elected in or that he played fair. They considered him repulsive and abhorrent and so nothing was off the table in terms of smearing him, removing him, hurting him and his family. It was all good. What is more, because they were so convinced of the moral authority to do so, they did all of these things and said and swore to all of these things with righteous conviction.

It was never going to matter because when Hillary won it was all going to go away. Then she lost and to cover up any fallout out the Weaponised ABC agencies both hid incriminating information AND they okayed a Russia/Trump probe to prevent anyone getting to the bottom of things. At best it would remove Trump from office and at worst smear him so badly and tie his hands that none of teh terrible things they did would ever come to light. It was their insurance policy.

That has not worked. The Democrats have about one more roll of the dice. Impeachment. They HAVE to go with this because if they do not get him out of office the house of cards will come crashing down. Unfortunately, even if they pass it in the House, they can't in the Senate. It is why Mueller kept hold of the investigation so long when there was no predicate for the collusion and no basis on which this was launched. He held on because if the Congress went blue for both House and Senate they could impeach him and would have the numbers if they did so.

Pence is no Trump and would tow the establishment line and would be scrambling from that time until 2020 and from there it would be a scrambling Republican Government trying to meet a united Democrat Congress and party after having ousted the Republican President.

That failed too. Now they are fucked.

(04-19-2019, 10:48 AM)Duchess Wrote: I'm so disappointed in Senator Burr. That's what I get for wanting to be fair and give him the benefit of doubt. Now I can't trust him with the information he receives as being part of the Gang of Eight. He's no better than Nunes.

Why can you not trust him? Because he summarised a report that he worked with his good friend Mueller with? Was it because he obeyed the law and will not redact information that he LEGALLY can't disclose (as a result of laws the Democrats in congress put in place after the Starr report was released)? Because he is fair enough to allow both sides of the political divide to follow up instances of law breaking and policy breaking and not just that on the Republican side? Is it that he decided to release the report when he was under absolutely no legal obligation to release?

But be serious for just a moment. What is he doing that in your own words "I can't trust him with the information he receives as being part of the Gang of Eight. He's no better than Nunes"?
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RE: RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE IN 2016 US ELECTION & SPIN-OFF INVESTIGATIONS - by Fry Guy - 04-19-2019, 10:33 PM